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Do stories by female authors get more attention than stories by males?

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I was discussing this with a male author yesterday. Just wondered what others think. Do you think female authors typically receive more votes and comments than male authors? If yes, why?

I find the female vs male talent on Lush to be pretty equal. But, like in my recent Flash Fiction story, which was barely more than a micro, I received a lot more votes/comments than the Recommended Reads surrounding me, authored by males. Their stories bested mine in every way, so where were their votes/comments? Just something I have noticed and I think they probably noticed and said, "What the f*ck!" ?
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It may simply be that there are more men on Lush than women, and that they are more likely to favour reading the naughty thoughts of a female than another male - after all, they have enough to do dealing with their own naughty thoughts! Prove me wrong guys by voting for my stories!
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It may simply be that there are more men on Lush than women, and that they are more likely to favour reading the naughty thoughts of a female than another male - after all, they have enough to do dealing with their own naughty thoughts! Prove me wrong guys by voting for my stories!


Thats an interesting thought! So, are you saying you think the female authors get more attention?
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Yes, but only because I suspect there are more males reading female stories than there are females reading male stories - I get more comments from females which sort of supports the theory!
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Thats an interesting thought! So, are you saying you think the female authors get more attention?


I agree with him Kimmi, and add:

1) a higher percentage of women on the site are lesbian/lesbian leaning, than gay men.
These women tend to read other women's. [Exception: Lots of women seem to like to read gay
stories, regardless who wrote them.
2) Speaking for myself, I know I get better responses from women in a comment on one of their
stories/poems than I do in less public places, like a black box, or a message (email). In most cases,
I get no response at all to either.

That is the way I understand it, and being a "realist," it usually doesn't bother me.

Two caveats:

1) what are the real numbers on "times viewed" vs. "times voted on" and "times commented on."
2) I am sure those who administer the site know the truth better than I to your question.
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It's an interesting question. You get far more views/votes/comments than I do, so I am not sure I can make any meaningful contribution. All I can really say is that the majority of comments I do get are from readers who identify as female, with only a few male regulars chiming in. Then again, I only write pieces with a lesbian content, so draw readers from a much smaller pool.
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It's an interesting question. You get far more views/votes/comments than I do, so I am not sure I can make any meaningful contribution. All I can really say is that the majority of comments I do get are from readers who identify as female, with only a few male regulars chiming in. Then again, I only write pieces with a lesbian content, so draw readers from a much smaller pool.


Hey girl, you are getting lots of attention in microfiction! I think readers who comment like a comment back too and not just a "Thanks." I have seen more male authors not respond to comments than women from the stories I have read. I don't think a female author has ever NOT responded to one of my comments. I wonder if that contributes. There is a thread somewhere about it.
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I tend to gravitate toward female writers probably to get the POV
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Hey girl, you are getting lots of attention in microfiction! I think readers who comment like a comment back too and not just a "Thanks." I have seen more male authors not respond to comments than women from the stories I have read. I don't think a female author has ever NOT responded to one of my comments. I wonder if that contributes. There is a thread somewhere about it.


Sorry, I didn't mean that to sound so whiny/needy, just that mine is a small single flavor slice of the Lush pie to sample. Okay, that sounds oddly naughty.

At any rate, I do agree about the response to comments given. If my thought offered gets a real reply, for good or ill, I am far more inclined to do so on the next story. And I do think women are much better at it then men on the whole. That said, I acknowledge it is not always easy for some. I know I am not good at banter. I just try not to look like an automated reply bot.
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Haven't done the stats so it is hard to say. I am not one of the more widely read authors here but I am just one male among many. I am sure some of the better male authors like Milik get read more than I.
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Haven't done the stats so it is hard to say. I am not one of the more widely read authors here but I am just one male among many. I am sure some of the better male authors like Milik get read more than I.



I wonder about the stats too. I started this because another amazing male talent posted he actually created a female profile and wrote the female POV just to test the theory that female authors generally get more reads. I had noticed it some just looking at stories around my own that were better stories but received fewer comments.
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It really depends on what categories you write in. It doesn’t matter if your a male or female. It doesn’t matter if you have RR’s or EP’s.

It’s content of what the reader base wants. Most people want to jerk off to a story that’s dirty and nasty.

They don’t want to read long novels. That’s a very particular reader looking for that kind of story.

I have only six RR’s and Ed Langston has none. We both have tons of famous stories and legendary stories. We write in all categories and not afraid of the taboo and incest categories. We just write porn. Porn stories are what readers want. In the views game.

Ed - 15,118,380
Mysteria - 12,252,827

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You have a high profile here Kimmi, because you write many stories, post on the forum quite a bit and write a lot of nice comments on other peoples' stories (thanks!). So that may be a factor.

But I would say yes, on the whole, female authors get more attention. In fact I would suggest that some of the 'female' authors here might be guys who are aware of this.
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It really depends on what categories you write in. It doesn’t matter if your a male or female. It doesn’t matter if you have RR’s or EP’s.

It’s content of what the reader base wants. Most people want to jerk off to a story that’s dirty and nasty.

They don’t want to read long novels. That’s a very particular reader looking for that kind of story.

I have only six RR’s and Ed Langston has none. We both have tons of famous stories and legendary stories. We write in all categories and not afraid of the taboo and incest categories. We just write porn. Porn stories are what readers want. In the views game.

Ed - 15,118,380
Mysteria - 12,252,827

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Mysteria



Wow! Those are incredible numbers! Congrats and thanks for your input.
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You have a high profile here Kimmi, because you write many stories, post on the forum quite a bit and write a lot of nice comments on other peoples' stories (thanks!). So that may be a factor.

But I would say yes, on the whole, female authors get more attention. In fact I would suggest that some of the 'female' authors here might be guys who are aware of this.


That is what prompted this thread. A male author acknowledged he created a female profile and wrote stories because he thinks female authors get more attention. From what I see, the females get more attention, but I don't see everything.
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Hey girl, you are getting lots of attention in microfiction! I think readers who comment like a comment back too and not just a "Thanks." I have seen more male authors not respond to comments than women from the stories I have read. I don't think a female author has ever NOT responded to one of my comments. I wonder if that contributes. There is a thread somewhere about it.


I'm not sure about this whole female vs male thing. I do think women as a whole are more supportive of each other than men are.

Now for this whole commenting thing. Yes, women seem to make more of an effort to reply to comments than a lot of the guys on here. In either case, if I see an author doesn't bother to respond and has a list of comments, then I tend not to comment. Why bother if they feel they don't need to respond.
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I don't know. I can say that I read more female authors than male, but that's probably because I avoid the genres in which men tend to write--cheating, that sort of thing. *shrugging* as for myself, I rarely leave a comment, and I generally don't respond to comments on my own stories--I don't have time, one, and two, my self-worth is not wrapped up in what whomever said about whatever. Which is not to say I don't appreciate the comments--only that there's only 24 hours in a day, and most of my 24 hours are booked.
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I never really thought about it, but given women get more attention than men in general, then by default, the female authors would get more than the male. Especially when an alluring avatar catches your eye, it will probably make most men and lesbian/bisexual women jump into whatever they've written.

That said, I believe a lot of factors mentioned before such as engaging with your readers, reading other people's submissions and such helps a ton as well. I struggle with replies on comments sometimes, no lie.

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That is what prompted this thread. A male author acknowledged he created a female profile and wrote stories because he thinks female authors get more attention. From what I see, the females get more attention, but I don't see everything.



The author Kim is talking about is me.

I wrote on Literotica about seven six ago under a female pen name for the reasons this thread is investigating.

I also had my usual male account still on the boil (This was during in-between Lush years). One of the stories, which I have just given a make-over and published here on Lush, was similar to the stuff I normally wrote as a male, only this time in the first person (Link to the updated version below),


https://www.lushstories.com/stories/threesomes/-leaving-annies-party-.aspx


It received almost double the reads one of my male-authored stories would garner in the first few weeks. What was more interesting was the number of personal messages I got from blokes. Strangely non from women — though I think if I'd tried this on Lush, I'd have received loads of messages from girls.

After all those messages, I began to feel quite guilty for the deception. Even so, I went on to do a few more under a female pen name. We writers can be such attention junkies. After a while, I found I'd written this particular female alter out of my psyche.

I'm sure there are guys writing as girls here on Lush — not catfishing (or maybe they are), but for the reasons that we are discussing. If they're a half-way decent writer, it is hard to tell them by their stories alone. Sometimes a silly profile will dish the dirt.

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The author Kim is talking about is me.

I wrote on Literotica about seven six ago under a female pen name for the reasons this thread is investigating.

I also had my usual male account still on the boil (This was during in-between Lush years). One of the stories, which I have just given a make-over and published here on Lush, was similar to the stuff I normally wrote as a male, only this time in the first person (Link to the updated version below),


https://www.lushstories.com/stories/threesomes/-leaving-annies-party-.aspx


It received almost double the reads one of my male-authored stories would garner in the first few weeks. What was more interesting was the number of personal messages I got from blokes. Strangely non from women — though I think if I'd tried this on Lush, I'd have received loads of messages from girls.

After all those messages, I began to feel quite guilty for the deception. Even so, I went on to do a few more under a female pen name. We writers can be such attention junkies. After a while, I found I'd written this particular female alter out of my psyche.

I'm sure there are guys writing as girls here on Lush — not catfishing (or maybe they are), but for the reasons that we are discussing. If they're a half-way decent writer, it is hard to tell them by their stories alone. Sometimes a silly profile will dish the dirt.



Thanks for sharing, Luca!

You know, for me, the attention can be deceiving. I tell those I read they don't need to read me, but Lush is a pretty supportive, reciprocating community I think. Its hard for me to get a feel for the true quality of my writing. Are people commenting because I respond to comments, read them, etc or do they really like my writing. I even thought about creating a male profile with no friends and entering a comp just to see what would happen to try to get what I feel is a realistic view of my writing. But, I felt too deceptive too, so I won't do it on Lush. I have entered some comps elsewhere to see how I do.
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As a fledgling writer I try to read as widely as possible but I do give my sisters slightly more support partly because they tend to write in an style I enjoy and also as a newbie I feel I need to fight a little more for the attention.
It's possible that maybe others feel the same way.
Having said that I haunt Rumps and if someone seems nice I go check out their work sometimes I find a something I'd have over looked otherwise.
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I'm sure there are guys writing as girls here on Lush


Yah, but anyone who has any kind of familiarity with linguistics will pick up on the ruse, and rather quickly. Women use a different syntax, different verbiage and while grammatical rules are what they are, women also use those rules differently. This is across all languages, not only English.
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Thanks for sharing, Luca!

You know, for me, the attention can be deceiving. I tell those I read they don't need to read me, but Lush is a pretty supportive, reciprocating community I think. It's hard for me to get a feel for the true quality of my writing. Are people commenting because I respond to comments, read them, etc or do they really like my writing. I even thought about creating a male profile with no friends and entering a comp just to see what would happen to try to get what I feel is a realistic view of my writing. But, I felt too deceptive too, so I won't do it on Lush. I have entered some comps elsewhere to see how I do.



That's interesting Kim. You have described similar thoughts to my own when I was considering my return to Lush, four years ago now. I'll explain.


When I returned, I decided not to complete my profile, did not commence to collect friends in the hope they would say nice things about my stories. I did not promote myself, try to show people the lovely person I undoubtedly am.

And I was pleased with the results, got a satisfying number of reads (if not comments and votes). I found that doing a series the best way to see what people think of my writing, by showing how many readers stuck with the storyline, came back for more (poor readers; I never can finish the blessed things).

Little by little, from the kindness of strangers, I have been drawn more into socialising on Lush.

But I have to confess, I still get comment envy when I see avatars scrambling over each other to leave comments on the stories of the darlings of the site. But that's just me being a normal human being.

Before I go, I'll just say those stories that I have read of yours — and sad to say it is not that many — I have enjoyed immensely, always considered them well crafted — and what's most important on Lush, very erotic. Your doubt about your abilities is completely unfounded.
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Yah, but anyone who has any kind of familiarity with linguistics will pick up on the ruse, and rather quickly. Women use a different syntax, different verbiage and while grammatical rules are what they are, women also use those rules differently. This is across all languages, not only English.



That sounds quite plausible. It would be interesting to do a double-blind trial in a controlled environment.
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Yah, but anyone who has any kind of familiarity with linguistics will pick up on the ruse, and rather quickly. Women use a different syntax, different verbiage and while grammatical rules are what they are, women also use those rules differently. This is across all languages, not only English.



Your post prompted me to google the issues of determining a person's gender by their writing.


I did not get far before I came across this quiz in The Guardian.


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The Naipaul test: Can you tell an author's sex?
In an interview at the Royal Geographic Society this week, during which VS Naipaul provoked fury by suggesting that women writers are 'sentimental' and 'unequal to me', he also claimed that 'I read a piece of writing and within a paragraph or two I know whether it is by a woman or not.' Do you?
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https://www.theguardian.com/books/quiz/2011/jun/02/naipaul-test-author-s-sex-quiz

I have not done it yet, have bookmarked it for later as there is quite a bit of reading involved. I hope others from Lush will do the quiz and post their results. I'll post mine later.
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I would think that the statistics would be close.
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I wrote on Literotica about seven six ago under a female pen name for the reasons this thread is investigating.

It received almost double the reads one of my male-authored stories would garner in the first few weeks.

I'm sure there are guys writing as girls here on Lush — not catfishing (or maybe they are), but for the reasons that we are discussing.


Fascinating, Luca. I had hoped to be able to post stories here without revealing my sex - but Lush won't permit that, and I'm really bad at lying. Hence my female user name and the big pair of tits in my avatar - though it is clear on my profile that I am male.

Now that I've got to know some people here, I am glad I didn't try the gender subterfuge: it means I can be more honest with friends, which I hope is (often) reciprocated.

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Alison Goes to London (RR) - "love this... fun, and funny, and sexy" (sprite)

The Cursed Cunt (RR) - "holyyyyy sheeeiiit.... Your writing is fucking fantastic" (CarltonStJames)

A Worthless Filthy Fucking Smoking Trash Cunt Whore (RR) - "Brilliantly done. Of course." (naughtyannie)

Snow White and the Seven Dildos (RR) - "Fuck. It's perfect.... honestly genius and so fucking well executed." (VioletVixen)

Metamorphoses (RR) - "so imaginative and entertaining" (saucymh)

And There Came Two Angels to Sodom - "What a deliciously worded story! So juicy, so raunchy" (el_henke)

Fuck-Talk (with VioletVixen) - "Jeez. I feel rendered wordless by how much clever fucking fun this is" (Jaymal)

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Your post prompted me to google the issues of determining a person's gender by their writing.


I did not get far before I came across this quiz in The Guardian.


"
The Naipaul test: Can you tell an author's sex?
In an interview at the Royal Geographic Society this week, during which VS Naipaul provoked fury by suggesting that women writers are 'sentimental' and 'unequal to me', he also claimed that 'I read a piece of writing and within a paragraph or two I know whether it is by a woman or not.' Do you?
"

https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is-difference-between-womens-writing-and-mens-in-textual-cohesion-and-coherence-based-on-Halliday-and-Hasans-theory



I am gonna take this quiz too. I am not sure I could tell. However, I have written last couple of stories from male POV and its f'n hard for me though. I know my own female voice still peeks through.
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Fascinating, Luca. I had hoped to be able to post stories here without revealing my sex - but Lush won't permit that, and I'm really bad at lying. Hence my female user name and the big pair of tits in my avatar - though it is clear on my profile that I am male.

Now that I've got to know some people here, I am glad I didn't try the gender subterfuge: it means I can be more honest with friends, which I hope is (often) reciprocated.

Nowt so queer as folk...


Hi, Grusha. You made the right decision. Subterfuge leads down a garden path of interminable vigilance that eventually becomes unsustainable. I'm not surprised that you're glad you laid your cards out. You've done nicely for yourself friends wise on Lush.

Why the name, though? I know its provenance but why did you choose it for this account?