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MrNudiePants
Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:11:35 PM

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LOL. I've thought that since the day it was raised.


Just look at who started it...argue

tazznjazz
Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:26:47 PM

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All religion's belief's should be taught [ including Pagonisim] so that tolerance and understanding of world wide beliefs are better understood, but It should be an elective class.
sprite
Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:44:26 PM

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they teach fiction in English classes - kind of the same thing :)
gpown
Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 2:46:04 PM

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For those who are for teaching creationism in science classes, I'd like them to publish a scientific paper on how Jesus changed water into wine. Same source, same proof, same category.
kylie_kained
Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 4:22:58 PM

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Creationism is something that I feel cant be taught it's the individual that can become creative.
















WellMadeMale
Posted: Thursday, December 06, 2012 9:07:15 AM

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MrNudiePants wrote:


Just look at who started it...argue


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NymphWriter
Posted: Friday, December 07, 2012 1:38:57 AM

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Here's the problem with teaching creationism in public school....

Most organized religions have their own "version" of creation and it's very easy to both mix them up and offend or upset other groups.

Some who believe in creationism don't believe in the existence in dinosaurs, regardless of the scientific facts (I so wish I was making this shit up, but my ex-mother-in-law believes this)

Those who don't believe in "creationism" would be out of place.

If they want to teach creationism, then it must be presented as a "theory" like the big bang or evolution. Even though there is proof of some form of evolution, there is no definitive proof it's the 100% right answer. Of course... this will incur the wrath of parents.

Then of course there is the whole separate of church and state issue that I won't waste my time writing or your time reading.

Oh yeah... and before I incur hate mail... I am a public school teacher and I've had kids share with me their beliefs. I have learned to get the kids to "agree to disagree" as it's not worth my job to talk theology except when necessary.

Science can teach theories, as long as parents know the teacher is trying to present a balanced front of all the theories pertaining to how the Earth came into being.


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NymphWriter
Posted: Friday, December 07, 2012 1:40:06 AM

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tazznjazz wrote:
All religion's belief's should be taught [ including Pagonisim] so that tolerance and understanding of world wide beliefs are better understood, but It should be an elective class.


That would be nice... but good luck getting parents to go along with it. Sadly, not all will.

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Jack_42
Posted: Friday, December 07, 2012 4:53:48 AM

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Yawn.
ahotbod4u
Posted: Friday, December 07, 2012 5:48:33 AM

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NEVER NEVER NEVER. Too many religious bigots in this world.......if you're going to do that why stop therre?. Flat Earth Society anyone, Scientology perhaps ?
As for teaching it as a science......god help us all if that level of ignorance takes over.
Kinky_Becky
Posted: Friday, December 07, 2012 7:43:42 AM

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Would be an interesting class wouldn't it?

Teacher: Ok, kids, the sun is the center of our universe. As the Earth rotates around the sun, it also spins and wobbles. Spinning on it's axis is what decides whether it's night or day, depending on whether the side of the Earth you are on faces the sun or not. Similarly, when the sun shines on the moon, it makes the moon bright on the side that faces the moon. The wobbling is responsible for the seasons. When the Earth is tilted down, it is summer in the northern hemisphere, but winter in the southern hemisphere.

Now on the first day, God created the heavens and Earth, then created light and separated the night and day.

On day 2, God created land and separated the waters above and below. The water above it he called the sky.

On day 3, God created plants.

On day 4, God created the sun and moon, having the sun rule the day and the lesser light, the moon, rules the night.

On day 5, God created all the animals.

And on day 6, God created man.

Any questions? Yes Tommy?

Tommy: "You said that light comes from the sun. So if that's true, how did god make night and day before he made the sun? And how did all the plants live before there was a sun? And I don't understand, so the sky is made of water?


Teacher: Well you see Tommy, the story of God is a theory called creationism. All the rest is scientific fact?

Tommy: But you said a hypothesis was a theory until it had either been disproven or was supported a bunch of times, in which case it became law. So if all this scientific fact disproves it, isn't it no longer theory?

Teacher: Well yes, that's true, but all the Bible thumbers want you to be indoctrinated so we have to teach it, no matter how idiotic it sounds.













nazhinaz
Posted: Saturday, December 08, 2012 1:28:05 AM

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Kinky_Becky wrote:
Would be an interesting class wouldn't it?

Teacher: Ok, kids, the sun is the center of our universe. As the Earth rotates around the sun, it also spins and wobbles. Spinning on it's axis is what decides whether it's night or day, depending on whether the side of the Earth you are on faces the sun or not. Similarly, when the sun shines on the moon, it makes the moon bright on the side that faces the moon. The wobbling is responsible for the seasons. When the Earth is tilted down, it is summer in the northern hemisphere, but winter in the southern hemisphere.

Now on the first day, God created the heavens and Earth, then created light and separated the night and day.

On day 2, God created land and separated the waters above and below. The water above it he called the sky.

On day 3, God created plants.

On day 4, God created the sun and moon, having the sun rule the day and the lesser light, the moon, rules the night.

On day 5, God created all the animals.

And on day 6, God created man.

Any questions? Yes Tommy?

Tommy: "You said that light comes from the sun. So if that's true, how did god make night and day before he made the sun? And how did all the plants live before there was a sun? And I don't understand, so the sky is made of water?


Teacher: Well you see Tommy, the story of God is a theory called creationism. All the rest is scientific fact?

Tommy: But you said a hypothesis was a theory until it had either been disproven or was supported a bunch of times, in which case it became law. So if all this scientific fact disproves it, isn't it no longer theory?

Teacher: Well yes, that's true, but all the Bible thumbers want you to be indoctrinated so we have to teach it, no matter how idiotic it sounds.

Good example of confusion confounded.
Still Sun is not the center of Universe.











Kinky_Becky
Posted: Saturday, December 08, 2012 3:12:45 PM

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sorry, solar system. But considering our lives depend on it, it certainly is to me.

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