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Zenmackie
Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:41:40 PM

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I've been writing erotica for several years now, and I have to admit that I still have an issue with 'cum' as a spelling for either orgasm or the fluids that accompany it. Usually the context of any given sentence is more than enough to make clear whether someone is having an orgasm or merely arriving, so why is this separate spelling necessary?

I know it's been considered acceptable for decades but it's just one of those semi-literate terms, like 'bar-b-q', that always bothers me when it appears in an otherwise well-written sentence, particularly when it's used as a verb: 'cumming' just looks like really bad spelling to me.

If 'cum' must be used I would suggest that it be used only as a noun, to distinguish between, say, semen, and the act of having an orgasm. For example, "At long last he was coming - groaning with pleasure as he spurted again and again, covering his beloved's face with cum."

Or am I the only one who even notices this anymore? Writers and readers, over to you.
AbigailThornton
Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:19:50 AM

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Personally, I agree with your definitions. However, I've written for various publications over the years and it appears to be down to the house-style or preference of the editor. 'Cum' is preferred by several (but not all) top-shelf porn mags. I've had my text changed both ways - I notice but I can't say that I'm bothered.

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Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:27:19 PM

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I tend to agree with Zen; I use "come" as a verb, and "cum" as a noun.

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Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:29:48 PM

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DLizze wrote:
I tend to agree with Zen; I use "come" as a verb, and "cum" as a noun.


Same.


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Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:34:35 PM

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DLizze wrote:
I tend to agree with Zen; I use "come" as a verb, and "cum" as a noun.


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Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:51:17 PM

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I had never actually thought about it until now. I will probably be thinking about it every story I write in the future though! It does make sense.

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Posted: Monday, January 21, 2013 2:36:05 AM

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If 'cum' must be used I would suggest that it be used only as a noun, to distinguish between, say, semen, and the act of having an orgasm. For example, "At long last he was coming - groaning with pleasure as he spurted again and again, covering his beloved's face with cum.".[/quote]

I was only having this conversation with another Author yesterday. I agree with you.




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Posted: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:17:03 PM

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As with most things in life, timing is everything. And at some point in time even Merriam-Webster will accept and promote cum, cummed and cumming.

Look how long it was before they defined ain't. And only then, because 30 to 50% of the population in the Northern Hemisphere regularly uttered it.

For decades...before its use jumped the pond.



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Buz
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 10:44:17 PM

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I prefer to see cum as both a verb and a noun. It just makes more sense and is much easier to distinguish.
cum, cummed, cumming





DanielleX
Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:42:41 AM

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I agree with the OP 99% although I occasionally use cum as a verb for effect

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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:50:32 AM

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I’m going to have to agree. I actually hate the words cum, cummed and cumming. To me it looks trashy and not well written. I don’t know why. I much rather use the word orgasm. I've been finding new ways to express or talk out when someone is having an orgasm to avoid using those first three words. I just don’t like them. You won’t see them in my stories.

I am so glad to see a forum about this. Thanks Zen!


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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:13:42 AM

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It took a bit of digging but I knew this topic had come (or cum) up before:

http://www.lushstories.com/forum/yaf_postst18001_Come-or-Cum.aspx

There are a few more responses in there but very similar sort of discussion as here.

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Buz
Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:24:33 PM

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Often words grow in to acceptance in our vocabulary. Just call me a cumster for supporting the word cum, cummed, cumming.

But I have never felt sure about 'came' so I haven't used it in a story.

One thing I really like about using cum as a verb is that it does make it raunchier and sleazier. It is edgier.

I think it was Clum that said it best on the other Forum thread about this, "just be consistent."

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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:27:43 PM

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i use cum, cummed (my Mistress actually influenced me on the past tense, i used to use came), and cumming regularly. i just like the words. they are raw, sexual, and dirty and i am proud of being a dirty girl. :)

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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:38:47 PM

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sprite wrote:
i use cum, cummed (my Mistress actually influenced me on the past tense, i used to use came), and cumming regularly. i just like the words. they are raw, sexual, and dirty and i am proud of being a dirty girl. :)


And I am proud of you Sprite (and your mistress.) hello1

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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:05:13 AM

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Buz wrote:
Often words grow in to acceptance in our vocabulary. Just call me a cumster for supporting the word cum, cummed, cumming.

But I have never felt sure about 'came' so I haven't used it in a story.

One thing I really like about using cum as a verb is that it does make it raunchier and sleazier. It is edgier.

I think it was Clum that said it best on the other Forum thread about this, "just be consistent."


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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 9:27:01 AM

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Poppet wrote:
I’m going to have to agree. I actually hate the words cum, cummed and cumming. To me it looks trashy and not well written. I don’t know why. I much rather use the word orgasm. I've been finding new ways to express or talk out when someone is having an orgasm to avoid using those first three words. I just don’t like them. You won’t see them in my stories.



I'm kind of with Poppet but do find that sometimes they seem to be the best words to use. I don't like to see a constant stream of cum/cumming and "cummed" just eats at my brain so I still use "came" as the past tense. However, there are times when "cum/come" and its forms just feel right in a sex scene. I just try to space them out with other terms. In particular, "I'm cumming" or "I'm going to cum, baby" often seems like just the right thing to have someone saying at times. It does convey what the speaker is really thinking and feeling as their climax approaches. Having someone yell out "I'm having a massive orgasm" just seems ... off.

As with all things, it ... um ... comes down to what feels right in the passage.


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RumpleForeskin
Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:03:28 PM

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If the reader begins to notice how something is written as opposed to being absorbed by the story being told, then the writer has missed the mark. To me, 'cum' and its variants are best used in sex scene dialogue. Somehow, having sex partners exclaim, 'I'm having an orgasm' or "I'm ejaculating' just doesn't maintain the proper mood. :)

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(curses, vilifications and assorted blasphamous remarks) Sometimes I hate not being able to edit my posts. The rest of the time I hate it a whole lot. :(

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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:50:28 PM

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Okay! This being a writting site I am going to take the authors stand here. Cum/Come should be used in the context of the situation. If a master were to say "come here my lovely little slut" would mean that she might be moving to her masters side (I would generally put said slave on her knees to enjoy the bruising pain of a concrete floor against her bare knees). However, the foreshadowing effect to put a 'cum hither my love' would signal the explosion of an orgasm with dripping wet consequences running down her legs.

So yes contextual clues allow for lots of foreshadowing foreplay in what and how we say those lovely words.
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Posted: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:39:50 PM

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I look at it this way, picture this sentence and allow your mind to go there.

"Tommy, are you going to come eat?" "Yea Ma, be right down, I'm coming."

"Tommy, are you going to come eat?" "Yea Ma, be right down, I'm cumming."

I rest my case.clown
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Posted: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:49:18 PM

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I never use "come" for "cum" in any situation. When I am cumming, I am most certainly not "coming"... I am already THERE! ;) And I also agree that it is not natural to use terms like "I am having an orgasm" or "I am ejaculating!".. LOL We are not writing medical manuals.

However, no matter what you use, it should flow and seem natural in the situation and style of writing.

But that is just my views on it all.
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Posted: Friday, February 22, 2013 11:23:45 PM

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The first thought I had was other homophones, like to, two, and too. Each of these means something different, but they sound the same. When I see the word "come," I think along the lines of "I will be arriving in an hour." When I see "cum," I think "I'm about to spurt all over your face."

I did double-check in Merriam-Webster and Dictionary.com for both of these. Dictionary.com does recognize "cum" as an alternate spelling for "come," which is recognized as slang for semen. So technically, it's acceptable to use either way, but it's more acceptable as "come."
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Posted: Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:54:32 AM

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I like and see the reasoning in the original post. It sounds great and makes sense. But like some others have said I just love the raunchier sound and feel of the words cum, cummed, and cumming esp. when I am reading erotic stories. And I don't mind the word came esp. since it is something I hear all the time....."I just came".

When I read an erotic story some grammar things are on my mind like spelling and someone changing tense and stuff like that bother me. But as far as the words like cum/come to me I just like the more raunchy. Also like John C said I do not like the terms I am having an orgasm or I am ejaculating. I would never use those and I have never had a partner use them.

I think what sounds natural is just better and definitely hotter in an erotic story.

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Posted: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:11:01 AM

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Oh, I do have to add though, that "came" seems more natural in writing than "cummed". So even then there (for me) isn't a set rule. It is what works or does not work.

But we often find things that follow the "rules" in grammar or sentence structure in general that don't flow naturally too. So often times breaking the rules just works better. It also has to do with how we talk and communicate in general. You see this when reading books published from different periods of time.
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Posted: Saturday, February 23, 2013 8:20:59 AM

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I use cum as both a noun and a verb. Is there another example in English where the spelling changes between the noun and verb forms, while the pronunciation stays the same? I don't phish for fish, or meat people at meetings. It seems bizarre and arbitrary to have this one word have special rules, doesn't it?

Nevertheless, the Oxford English Dictionary lists "come" as correct:

Quote:
17. To experience sexual orgasm. Also with off. slang.


But it also has no listing for "cum" at all, though, aside from the Latin preposition, and lists "come" as the spelling for:

Quote:
Semen ejaculated at sexual climax, esp. spilt ejaculate. Also (rarely), fluid secreted by the vagina during sexual play. Cf. come v. 17.slang.


So it would seem that, in principle the OED agrees with me, but we disagree on which spelling to use. I would say pick one and use it for both parts of speech.
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