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Joined: 8/22/2010 Posts: 76 Location: Bedford
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I have been trying to decide on the plot progression for my first story 'Bouncy Rain". I am torn between a very believable but possibly tame plot line that will almost wrap itself up and hopefully leave no loose ends, or a much more raunchy plot line that will almost certainly open up a raft of questions that readers would probably want answered. Should I be aiming to make each instalment as exciting as possible without worrying too much about where the story is going, or should I be concerned with long-term plotting over short-term action?
I actually thought about doing a little straw poll and letting readers decide the next step. I haven't noticed anyone else doing this, is it a valid way to proceed? Being so new to all this I am not sure what is acceptable and what is not.
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Joined: 5/12/2010 Posts: 132 Location: www.forlorn-hope.net
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Writers tend to agree its best to just tell your tale as it comes. Write and don't worry about how exciting each installment is. Tell the story. If you concentrate on making each segment hot, it can and likely will detract from the overall story. IMHO
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Joined: 11/21/2009 Posts: 674 Location: Stopping the war 'tween Harold and Kumar
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I have always said... and will always say... write for you and only you. Write how you want to see it. Personally for me... the story just writes itself. Living life and enjoying life are two different things... just need to figure out how to do both at the same time to live it right! Woman... GO FLY A KITE!!!!! Take a slideshow walk with me on a walk through the parks of Inner Mongolia, China. Then enjoy the tale of a very traditional day in the life of a white Woman in China.
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Joined: 11/30/2006 Posts: 332,008
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You have to believe in what your writing for anyone else to. When I write, it's like a scene from a movie. When writing erotica it takes a mixture of both to make a hot story. I write for me. Sometimes people don't like the story that is published, maybe it's not the normal, but who wants to be normal?
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Joined: 11/30/2006 Posts: 332,008
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Use allusions and creative writing to describe actions. Rather than using bluntness and crude words(pussy, dick, cock, cunt). It degenerates from the writing, if the attempt is to produce a good piece of writing or give off a good story with even a slight bit of depth. Now characters speaking the words above is a little different, provided it isn't misused and abused. But when describing a scene or action, I'd say its better to refrain from the use of such words.
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Joined: 12/6/2006 Posts: 22,687 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Good advice Yuzar
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Joined: 11/17/2010 Posts: 946 Location: Mountains of , United States
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Write both, 2 chapters maybe but name them according. Something like "Bouncy Rain: Drizzle" for the the soft stuff and "Bouncy Rain: Downpour" for the raunchy stuff. More work but you obviously want both.
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Joined: 9/22/2008 Posts: 8
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If it is your first story, then I would keep it simple. Once you have finished it, then you can try your hand at something more complicated/convoluted. Reprehensiballs wrote:I actually thought about doing a little straw poll and letting readers decide the next step. I haven't noticed anyone else doing this, is it a valid way to proceed? I tried this once and it turned out to be harder than I thought, so never tried again. I agree with Woman and Contessa wholeheartedly. I find that once I have the basic idea, and start to write, then the story takes on a life of its own. I think this is why I hated the ‘reader decides’ style as it made my stories stilted and jerky. I write for me and to have some-one suggest changes tends to put my back up and I’d happily completely delete before amend. I don’t do this for financial gain, and as it’s for me, feel no loss in doing so. As to the balance of sex against plot, I find that the story dictates that for me, some of mine are fuck-fests whilst others are glacial. And I don’t like splitting stories if I can possibly help it, I want to get immersed in a story and not have to go hunting for the next part, it’s like watching tv with adverts- you just get to the exciting bit then there is a break, I find that intensely annoying. My only really constructive suggestion is to write it, leave it for a few days, then come back and read it again. This I find, helps to highlight overly jarring prose as well as bringing any excessive changes in fluidity to light. Top This has a good idea. I once wrote a story twice from the perspective of each of the two characters, and submitted both seperately without mentioning it, letting the readers find out for themselves. It went down an absolute storm, so it’s an avenue worth considering if you wish to try a story in two different styles. Oh, and enjoy it. Writing should be fun and not a chore :)
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Rank: Active Ink Slinger
Joined: 5/15/2010 Posts: 10 Location: Dublin
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There are only so many ways to describe a big cock entering a wet pussy/ tight asshole/ willing mouth. For me, the turn on is the setting of the scene and the dialogue between characters. The build up of sexual tension and desire is often more exciting than the sex that transpires.
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Ups and downs make the world go round... How will you view your character as? A human of course, and we are complicated beings. We are raunchy, sweet, sexy, cute, naughty and more  I dont know how long it will be, but if its long, add a bit of everything for a sweet and sour dish :) If its short, well...Write what your mood allows. My personal opinion is to bring in the best of both worlds
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Joined: 10/22/2010 Posts: 1,356 Location: Philadelphia, United States
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Erotica should concentrate on having an equal balance of story and action.
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Joined: 8/14/2009 Posts: 2,372 Location: somewhere deep under the Earth, United States
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Any story, whether erotic or otherwise, should have a good plot. What is critical to erotica though is to have believable characters and to express their emotional state in a way that connects to the reader. One can write that he or she is excited but for the story to succeed, the reader must not simply know that they are, the reader must feel it too. If you can do that, then your story will be able to arouse the reader and get their blood hot. That is what makes a story erotic. “It is a great thing to know your vices.” ― Marcus Tullius Cicero
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Joined: 9/13/2011 Posts: 938 Location: United States
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Because I prefer to write in the first person, the persona of the storyteller/character guides the choice of words. So if it's "natural" for the storyteller to weave a complex story, that's what happens and if it's natural for the storyteller to get down to business and "git 'er done", that's what happens. What sells the story to the reader is the situation and the believability of the characters.
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Joined: 8/11/2011 Posts: 500 Location: Leeds, United Kingdom
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Joined: 12/25/2010 Posts: 1,708 Location: Under Your Bed, United States
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Both. If you focus too much on the sex, the plot is lost. If you focus too much on the plot, the sex is lost. I've stopped reading stories in both of these cases. I like stories that have a balance. And it's even more amazing to me when the sex is wrapped up in the plot.
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Joined: 11/15/2012 Posts: 45 Location: Lincoln Park, United States
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slipperywhenwet2012 wrote:Both. If you focus too much on the sex, the plot is lost. If you focus too much on the plot, the sex is lost. I've stopped reading stories in both of these cases. I like stories that have a balance. And it's even more amazing to me when the sex is wrapped up in the plot. my thoughts exactly, so it is best to sort of find a little middle ground "I ‘accidentally’ wrapped my hand over my pitched tent. “Trying to cover it up” I lied to myself. Only to be rewarded by chills rocketing down my spine. Fuck! I needed to cum now! ""Wasted Time" by
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Joined: 11/30/2006 Posts: 332,008
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There's no single mold that all erotica will fit into. Some erotica is made for stories. Some is made for action. Compare it to video games. Super Mario and Final Fantasy are both fun, but no one plays Super Mario for the story, and Final Fantasy isn't very action-packed. It all depends on what you're trying to do. The important thing is to entertain.
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Joined: 8/17/2010 Posts: 774 Location: Over your Knee Screaming and Kicking!, United King
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Write from your heart better a good detailed story in my opinion to draw the reader into the raunchy parts.
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  Rank: Forum Guru
Joined: 12/6/2009 Posts: 3,697 Location: Kicking around, Glasgow, United Kingdom
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I think erotica should strive to strike a balance between story and action, just as any other genre should. I try to get a balance between story and action, sometimes I succeed, sometimes I just suck.
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Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 35 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Story, certainly. A kiss is just a kiss without context.
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Joined: 1/19/2013 Posts: 190 Location: United States
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Story and character development first, then use that foundation to BUILD to the hot action. Otherwise you don't care about the characters or what they're doing sexually.
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Joined: 1/31/2013 Posts: 215
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i have read so many quick fuck stories... .the story line could have been there. great idea but darn lost due to no details. i love reading sex scenes like i am sure you all do too... but sex with just a cock and pussy, no face or personality behind it really doesn't do it for me. don't need romance. but the build up of heat is a must... anticipation is the ultimate.
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Joined: 6/3/2011 Posts: 45 Location: Middle of nowhere.....Thank God!!, United States
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i say the story, anyone can have sex but to make that sex so much hotter, it has to have a good story leading up to it and after it for that matter. really, what do you want your reader to get out of it? a story they read and forget 10 seconds after they finish it, or one they come back to time and time again. not just for the sex but for the whole story.
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Joined: 2/17/2010 Posts: 4,457 Location: In your dirty fantasies
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If you can write an intricate sex scene that takes its time and has build ups in intensity within it, then you can actually create a compelling action-oriented piece of writing. But in this case, the quality of the writing is just as important as what's actually going on in order to really 'sell it' to the reader. For the most part - I think a nice balance between storytelling and sexual action is the way to go. For me, the best authors in this genre always have the story building towards the sexual outcome or 'climax' though, so sexual tension should create excitement along the way.
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Joined: 11/13/2012 Posts: 364 Location: Columbia, United States
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It should be whatever you are comfortable with. This is your site for what you want to write. Think of it this way, if it reaches its targeted audience, then it's all good..........
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Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 768 Location: United Kingdom
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Wondering what you're going to write, isn't writing. Your best work will be what comes most naturally to you. Write it out, revisit, rework, redo, edit or leave it. The beauty of it is that it's yours and you can do what you like with it. Have fun. Warning: The opinions above are those of an anonymous individual on the internet. They are opinions, unless they're facts. They may be ill-informed, out of touch with reality or just plain stupid. They may contain traces of irony. If reading these opinions causes you to be become outraged or you start displaying the symptoms of outrage, stop reading them immediately. If symptoms persist, consult a psychiatrist. Why not read some stories instead CAM FUN COMPETITION ENTRY: DAGUERREOTYPE go on - it's only 500 words, you're not THAT busy. Too long? OK, how about a poem instead? This one's not even 101 words! RECOMMENDED REED
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Joined: 2/28/2012 Posts: 3 Location: In my wife's vagina, United States
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The story! It takes real talent to write a story but any old hack can write raunchy sex.
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Joined: 3/4/2008 Posts: 41
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If writing a short story then you have to go to the action almost straight away. However, if writing over 2,000 words then the build up is important to get the reader aroused.
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Joined: 2/11/2013 Posts: 484 Location: Marina del Rey, United States
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Just my opinion, but I believe in erotica, sex is the action and the characters make the story what it is or isn't. There is analysis that can go on, but to me that's academic stuff, like parsing sentences. charting the dramatic dynamics, and all that stuff. Good stories hook the reader, pull them through to where the writer stops, and that's it. Genre stories -- crossovers , really -- involve any other elements, like supernatural, western, sci-fi, romance.etc. with the erotica elements, which is fine, but too often seem like what is called a pastiche, that is the "story" (characters, plot, etc.) is a genre tradition and the erotica is just added in. Good erotica, like comedy or tragedy, is very difficult to write, partly because you have to be visceral about it. The narrative of the mind's desires manifesting physically...that's the key.
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Joined: 10/22/2011 Posts: 2,005 Location: Expat in, Russia
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I could not help but feel the original question might be interpreted to Porn versus Love Story. A short story without character buildup to capture the imagination of the reader remains a limited interest "quickie". This is acceptable for a five minute read, but fails to remain interesting enough to continue reading. I would recommend to write a real story; one can still titillate a reader without going immediately into hard sex. Adding a characters sensual thoughts can help the story build, adding contextual motivation, and will do so without making them seem like a porn star.
But that is just my opinion...
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