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MrNudiePants
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2013 8:57:30 PM

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WellMadeMale wrote:


They were said to actually trying to be helpful?

In hindsight, maybe you don't wanna take a guy suffering PTSD out to shoot off a coupla hundred rounds to let off some steam, perhaps?

If I were trying to help someone suffering extreme stress, I doubt that putting some loaded guns in his hands would be something I'd think of as the 1st, 2nd or third best therapeutic tool or process to alleviate the guys emotional overload/pain/suffering.

Although I do find shooting clays - relaxing...I'm not suffering PTSD either.


This wasn't the first veteran they had helped. I'm not in any position to second-guess their methods (which included giving out donated fitness equipment and hosting hunting and fishing trips as well). All I really do know is that they'll really be missed by veterans here in America.

Magical_felix
Posted: Monday, February 04, 2013 9:48:48 AM

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MrNudiePants wrote:
Feel free to express your opinion, but please keep the explicit epithets out of them, okay?


Are you kidding? What a dumbass.

mmurray420 wrote:
ummm no . so just a hypothetica if i pull a .45 on u and kill u did i kill you or the gun ??????? if ignorance is bliss...


It would be worth it, just to watch your tiny ass fly about 5 feet backward after shooting. Better yet, use a 12 gauge so you can really launch yourself. That would be funny to me.





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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:17:20 AM

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As a United States Marine and avid shooter I say no don't take guns away I love my Springfield 1911 and my bushmaster AR 15 I shoot competitively and have been at it since I was 11 it was a bonding time for me and my dad (army ranger) so I think as long as you learn proper gun safety and can pass a background check then its fine plus it's your right as and American a right I am helping fight for every day I put my mccuu's on.
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2013 12:01:24 PM

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coming from a country of hunters and very strict gun laws. i say keep the guns but.......solve unemployement at the same time...Here to get a gun licenced you have to be interviewed by the police and so do your co workers and your family to ensure you are of stable sound mind. that your gun storage is above par and that you know how to handle a weapon...now lets see 386 million people in the usa, say 70% own guns, imagine the people it would need to take to follow this kind of plan through...Unemployed solved. bootyshake

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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2013 12:10:04 PM

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For all the people with the "dont take guns away because guns dont kill people, the people kill people".

How about we place a button standard in every house. When pressed the button blows up your town.
As sad as it sounds, lot of people would end up pressing that button.

Is it the buttons fault? No ofcourse not. The people who pressed it are at fault.
How about this,

The fault isnt just of the people who pressed it. The people CRAZY enough to actually allow buttons like that to be placed in every house are to be blamed just as much.

So just dont make this option available at all and it will save a lot of lives.

Now this doesnt mean we have to take every tool away that can damage others. There are limits. But it has been proven enough times that guns do end up creating more deaths than other tools.

The point is. Sure guns dont kill the people. But they make it a lot more likely to happen, a lot easier to kill people with. And you can deny it all you want. but a lot of the murders and accidents wouldn't have happened without guns. Sure if someone really wants to kill, they will kill. But taking away a easy tool called the gun will make them to insecure and to afraid to make the step in most cases and they will even end up thinking different. Preventing them from doing any harm at all.

In the case someone breaks into your house or wants to kill you for some reason and that person happens to have a gun and you dont. Well guess what. You must be damn unlucky to be that 1 guy who gets assaulted. Especially if you didn't do anything to cause this assault.

As sad as it sounds, the odds of exactly that happening to someone who just follows the laws are pretty small. But if they really want to kill you, you probably didn't even have time to reach for a gun. Having a gun in house would just be for either the paranoid people or the people who did something really bad in their lives causing other people to be after their lives.

With that said, If your that sure someone will assault you on your own ground without you having anything done, you might aswell hire people to patrol in front of your house. Hire a couple of big dogs, install cameras around your house, for the hell of it why not call the police every 5 minutes just to make sure noone is aiming for your head.

Just get some pepperspray and get some good locks on your doors and windows. That should be all the security you need. Sure it wont protect you from someone with a gun. But guess what, even if you have a gun, It wont protect you from a rocket launcher. We can just keep going up the weapon tree like this, you will always be vulnerable in some way.

ok i ranted enough now. Just behave in your home and let the police handle the guns and the criminals.

o.o
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2013 3:08:19 PM

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If you are wanting to take the right to bear arms away, then void the 2nd Amendment. Easy breezy you have the US Senate and the Presidency , the issue is hot right now so go for it, is there anything stopping you Socialist ?
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Unemployed solved." LOL, never mind the 16.5 Trillion we already owe,,,, this spending on this kind of Socialism is crazy. As for your country,,, God Love Ya.
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2013 5:44:15 PM

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Buc wrote:
If you are wanting to take the right to bear arms away, then void the 2nd Amendment. Easy breezy you have the US Senate and the Presidency , the issue is hot right now so go for it, is there anything stopping you Socialist ?


Oh, grow up. I doubt you'd get s much as a handful of even the most liberal Dems in the House and Senate put together to vote for a repeal of the 2nd Amendment. That is a tiny minority opinion in this country and there are NO serious attempts to do so that have any popular support. The President doesn't support repeal. He has in fact numerous times and very publicly stated his support for the amendment, which the gun-paranoids chose to either ignore completely or call a lie.
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2013 7:46:46 PM

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Buc wrote:
Unemployed solved." LOL, never mind the 16.5 Trillion we already owe,,,, this spending on this kind of Socialism is crazy. As for your country,,, God Love Ya.


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i love how sane supporters of the 2nd amendment are...

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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:13:50 PM

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They really DON'T wear shirts! or pants...

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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:15:09 PM

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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:21:01 PM

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I support the Second Amendment with or without anyone's propaganda posters. I support background checks. My last gun took me only 10 minutes purchase. They did do a background check which I knew would be clean. I wouldn't have even minded a 2-5 day waiting period before taking possession of my purchase. That would certainly enable a thorough background check.

I don't want crazies run around with guns anymore than anyone else but I certainly don't believe disarming law abiding citizens will prevent that from occurring. There is a huge cache of cheap fully automatic guns being manufactured south of the US border and in many other countries, especially from South America and southeast Asia. Massive shipments of those type guns is a huge underground industry. Anyone knows that it is easy as hell to smuggle anything into the United States. Our border security is a pathetic joke.

I seriously think stricter background checks will pass through the congress and possibly the halting the manufacture of certain type guns 'assault rifles' which is a very ambiguous term, may occur. But I do not believe there will be a ban on guns. There is way too much massive resistance to that.

I don't think it is worth getting militant here. Those are just my own personal beliefs. Everyone has their own. I certainly defend the right of free speech. If all the opinions come from just the left we would end up in a miserable dictatorship. If all the opinions come from just the right we would end up in a miserable dictatorship. Common sense from statesman minded people from either side tempered by those from the middle has been what made the USA work in the past. Let's hope that can continue somehow.

PS. and all "gun nuts" like myself aren't far right. I certainly am not a far rightist.

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They really DON'T wear shirts! or pants...



err so that old saying ïs that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me" just ain''t true? OMG....so it isn't so...thats one of my fav May West sayings....

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Good to see the socialist here are so thin skinned and at the same time so two faced. I will not be hyperbolic. So exactly what guns do you all want outlawed? And will those guns become illegal to own IF I own one now, or do you grandfather some of these guns?

So ONLY Public College's Educate the US College worthy minds? Odd, I attended and graduated from a Private University.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 7:43:05 AM

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those that love the new Socialist States of Omerica, do you also want those that earn income to pay more, maybe be taxed more and in the end have less?
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A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the U.S. government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force” -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the U.S."

As a Libertarian, and one that firmly believes in live and let live,,,, I find it odd that the anti-gun crazies have no problem with the aborting of 55 million babies.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 7:56:36 AM

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Buc wrote:


So ONLY Public College's Educate the US College worthy minds? Odd, I attended and graduated from a Private University.


Was that like a clown university you graduated from? Those are private too. Can you make a fucking balloon donkey for me?



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Buc wrote:
A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the U.S. government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force” -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the U.S."

As a Libertarian, and one that firmly believes in live and let live,,,, I find it odd that the anti-gun crazies have no problem with the aborting of 55 million babies.


I agree, that sucks. So do car accidents, and heart attacks, and skiing accidents. All a matter of internal beliefs. It's not surprise that a pro-lifer feels that abortion amounts to mass murder. Not everyone feels that way, of course.

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Buc wrote:
those that love the new Socialist States of Omerica, do you also want those that earn income to pay more, maybe be taxed more and in the end have less?


What's this have to do with a discussion on gun regulation again?
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:04:15 AM

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Buc wrote:
Good to see the socialist here are so thin skinned and at the same time so two faced. I will not be hyperbolic. So exactly what guns do you all want outlawed? And will those guns become illegal to own IF I own one now, or do you grandfather some of these guns?

So ONLY Public College's Educate the US College worthy minds? Odd, I attended and graduated from a Private University.


lol - thin skinned? i was so going for the laughs :) btw, i'm totally proud of being a socialist. i have pictures of Chairman Mau in my room and i masturbate to video of Stalin speaking. god, old russian guys are totally hot! think i'm going to have to rub one out just thinking of him right now! whew!



in reply to your question, outlaw anything that carries is classified as an semi automatic, assault weapon, or military grade gun. no more sales. period. institute a buy back program for those wishing to turn in their guns - those not wanting to do this need to registrar them and go thru a back ground check - any felonies on their record or history of mental illness and they must turn those guns in. if they come up clean, they can keep them as long as they have proof that they store them in a way to make them inaccessible to anyone else and have completed a gun safety training course. make it illegal for them to re-sell those guns or pass them on. they must retain sole possesion of those guns.

btw, not everyone can afford a private education - lets keep that option open for those of us who come from lower income back grounds, please. never said that ONLY public education creates worthy minds, but neither does only private education, capiche?
sprite
Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:06:18 AM

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Buc wrote:
those that love the new Socialist States of Omerica, do you also want those that earn income to pay more, maybe be taxed more and in the end have less?


i'd be happy if they were taxed the SAME as me. as it stands, they have access to way more loopholes then i do - i pay my fair share of taxes - all i ask is that they do the same. and really, you're worried about a billionaire ending up with LESS money than me? he'd have to be taxed at 100% for that to happen. :)
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Buc wrote:
A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the U.S. government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force” -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the U.S."

As a Libertarian, and one that firmly believes in live and let live,,,, I find it odd that the anti-gun crazies have no problem with the aborting of 55 million fetuses.


there, i fixed that for you. :) not sure what point your first quote was trying to make, so i left it alone.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:44:40 PM

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I have seen these discussions a lot. Based on my experience only, if guns are made illegal, all that means is that illegal guns will be used to commit crimes. If guns are taken what is next?. Many can do a great deal of damage with kitchen knives, some even from considerable ranges. And standard vests re not ery effective against a good blade.
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i'm totally proud of being a socialist. i have pictures of Chairman Mau in my room" Sprite
Chairman Mao, was a Chinese communist revolutionary

outlaw anything that carries is classified as an semi automatic"

My .22 Pistol would be outlawed by you.

Background checks,,, uhm, criminals steal guns , they don't submit to background checks, remember who locks keep out?

President Obama, would be unable to pass the fire arms background check do to his admitted cocaine and other drug usage. FYI.

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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:50:17 PM

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i pay my fair share of taxes - all i ask is that they do the same. and really, you're worried about a billionaire ending up with LESS money than me? he'd have to be taxed at 100% for that to happen. :) "


Laffer(ing) @ you
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:52:02 PM

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you're worried about a billionaire ending up with LESS money than me?"

Nope, the point is when you have a very limited mind economically taxing the other income earner makes you feeeeeellllll better . Poor people have earned their station .
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