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Tranquil
Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:38:01 PM

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swollen wrote:
He's an old man, with no intentional malice, who has lived his life true to his beliefs. If there is a heaven, he would be deserving of it. Good luck to him, and for that matter whoever steps into his shoes as the next Pope.
My 2 cents



You do realise this is the same man whom when the truth about the pedophiles came out in regards to catholic priests back in the 60's,70's 80's 90's etc, he would remove them to a poor country to continue their ways, and refused to admit. he even wrote the chapter and verse for all catholic dioceses on how to act apon such allegations with complete denial and contempt....he knows what he has done. and he will meet his maker with that knowledge

yes he is old. he has had two heart operations, he is very frail and is stepping aside to allow someone to rule whom is capable...but in my view as a catholic, as a mother. he should never have held this office.

interesting side fact..Nostradamus stated the next pope with be the last...curious thought.




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Kitanica
Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 3:15:12 AM

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chris_brown wrote:
[quote=Kitanica]

What did latinfoxy do but provide a perfectly logical counter argument. Sounds to me like your picking on someone for picking on your friend who has been picking right back albeit to a lesser degree of effectiveness thus inviting your current intervention. Think


latinfoxy and to a lesser extent sprite,are bullies,and im not about to put up with that shit,im standing up for a friend who asked for help,and im sorry to say u dont have the vagina to do likewise,do the planet a favor,go find a 6 foot long 3 foot wide hole in the ground and become fertilizer for the planet,leave Maggie alone


Yes your absolutely right, no I don't have a vagina as I'm a man. A proud, wood chopping, nail chewing, bear wrestling, mustaché and fisticuffs appreciating man. Although i will admit I'm sorry to hear you have sand in yours, I assume it must be irritating however I wouldn't know.
I read all the posts since her original incorrect statement regarding catholicism being the oldest religious institution despite the fact the bible itself confirms it's not. You should read all posts before you decide who's at fault.

"to latinfoxy...yes we are the oldest Jesus said to Peter " you are the rock and apon this rock you will build my church." the first pope was St. Peter!!!! Many catholic's refear to the pope as "the holy father" and thats holy not holly."Nutbag [sic]

Maggie started it with the nut emoticon after calling out latins spelling when prior to that Latin and sprite weren't even talking to her for several posts. It makes you look silly to call them bullies when the person you want to be left alone is the original bully. And I'll forgive the comment at the end of your post suggesting I crawl into a hole and die because you only have 3 posts and must not be familiar with online forums. However I will add ignorance is not an excuse for rudeness. If you can't discuss things like an adult and restrain yourself from making crude comments you don't belong on the forums. I could make a remark about it being your time of the month since you've already admitted to having a vagina but it's inappropriate and beneath me.

Anywho it's more commonsense than anything else but typically you shouldn't start a flamewar if you can't stand the heat. If you want to help maggie tell her that lol also not to criticize others spelling then say oh I have a learning disability. Not that disabled if your able to pick out the wrong words in someone else's post.

Normally as a troll I'd leave a word Read itMISPELEDRead it so you could call me on it and start a little tit for tat exchange like the ladies but I already know I'd win so I'm willing to let it slide.
Hugs

(note: MISPELED is said word. I'm not above destroying someone to make a point but I'm not so low that I wont warn someone who's out of their league. Should you choose to pursue it I can tell you ahead of time my reply will include a count of all the "u"s you were dropping in your first post, it was 4. so make sure to edit it and leave me with less ammo. You'll need me at a disadvantage when our forum peers judge the victor, but deep down we'll both know you edited it. I won't tell anyone though because in the end it wouldn't change the outcome anyway.)

No hard feelings chris.

lol this was fun :p speaking of the church modernizing, I read there's a possible black candidate for pope. Bout time in my opinion. The vaticans whiter than the GOP hahalaughing6
lambdavi
Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:17:56 AM

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If we all go back and delete all personal tit-for-tat rants at one another, this 3-page thread would count a mere dozen entries.

So please knock it off before I buy a three-way plane ticket and allow myself the vacation of a lifetime, and spank you all girls and wussies !

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As for the one very kind lady mentioning "I am well read in religion" read2 ... thank you for the compliment laughing6
My father was a would be monk, my mother should have shut herself up in a nunnery, and my junior brother IS a priest ! violent1

As for myself... Ldevil I survive... L35 (...so... where's the black sheep smiley?) evil5
sprite
Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 8:44:54 AM

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chris_brown wrote:
[quote=Kitanica]

What did latinfoxy do but provide a perfectly logical counter argument. Sounds to me like your picking on someone for picking on your friend who has been picking right back albeit to a lesser degree of effectiveness thus inviting your current intervention. Think


latinfoxy and to a lesser extent sprite,are bullies,and im not about to put up with that shit,im standing up for a friend who asked for help,and im sorry to say u dont have the vagina to do likewise,do the planet a favor,go find a 6 foot long 3 foot wide hole in the ground and become fertilizer for the planet,leave Maggie alone


so, you have actually read all the post before coming to this conclusion, i assume? just curious. if you wish to brand me a bully, feel free. makes no difference to me. personally, i have no issue with her religion or her beliefs. i am simply interested in expressing mine. the fact that she felt compelled to belittle Latinfoxy for simply expressing hers is what started this whole back and forth in the first place. if she wishes to file a complaint against either one of us for bullying, or you would like to, in her stead, you should do so using one of these links:

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http://www.lushstories.com/our-contacts.aspx

unlike you, i am not going to use crude language or insults or threats. if you wish to discuss this further, please do so through PMs rather then pollute this forum any more than it's already been polluted. thank you. :)

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DarkMaster
Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:44:35 AM

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Is it just me or did the man look really sick to begin with when he took the position? If he was already ill when he took the seat, imagine the strain the job as well as those kind of scandals would put on a a elderly man would definitely make his condition worse. I wouldn’t be surprised if the man went into seclusion for both his health and mind. Being Buddhist and someone outside of the Church its easier to stand back and look at things more factually. Do I think he couldve done more? Perhaps if he wasn’t ill to begin with. No doubt the scandals plagued his mind as well as his health. As far as the Nostradamus prophecies go, such things are subject to interpretation. Same as the whole doomsday prophecy based off a clock left to us by a culture that is since long gone from the face of the planet yet people still place stock in the theory.

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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:36:52 PM

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I agree, when he took on the role i think he wasnt 100% and with the stress of the position, it has taken its toll. How would you cope with dealing all the scandals, if it was me i think i would be have been overwhelmed long ago.

It takes a strong person to admit that they cant handle the position and resign, i think he did the right thing.


As to all the childish back and forth on this stream, Every one has the right to there opinion and people are going to disagree.

If they felt like they were being bullied why didnt they just contact the moderators.
ByronLord
Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:19:47 PM

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Tranquil wrote:


You do realise this is the same man whom when the truth about the pedophiles came out in regards to catholic priests back in the 60's,70's 80's 90's etc, he would remove them to a poor country to continue their ways, and refused to admit. he even wrote the chapter and verse for all catholic dioceses on how to act apon such allegations with complete denial and contempt....he knows what he has done. and he will meet his maker with that knowledge

yes he is old. he has had two heart operations, he is very frail and is stepping aside to allow someone to rule whom is capable...but in my view as a catholic, as a mother. he should never have held this office.

interesting side fact..Nostradamus stated the next pope with be the last...curious thought.


There were two problems with the pedophile scandal. The first was the abuse, the second was the coverup that perpetuated the abuse.

If there is a causal agent for the first, look no further than priestly celibacy. There is no scriptural authority for priests, let alone celibate ones. The original reason they brought in celibacy was a power grab by the monastic faction.

The coverup has multiple causes. The main underlying cause being the notion that the church is not accountable to any other party, not civil law and certainly not the lay members. It is a medieval concept of power. But next to that was the fact that John Paul II was completely incapacitated from 2000 on and possibly much earlier. He was unable to move his head to greet someone, let alone recognize that the policy had to be changed to respond to the crisis.

I think that the reason Ratzinger got the job in the first place was that he had been effectively running the papacy as more or less a Regent for ten years but without any authority to change policy.

So having been frustrated by being the stuckee for cleaning up the John-Paul II mess while he was incapable, he decided that the one thing he could change in the papacy was the idea that the post had to be held for life. That worked in the middle ages when they used to bump them off when they went senile (often earlier) but it is a complete failure in the modern age when a pope elected at 60 is likely to live to 90 or even longer. So absolute power could easily be concentrated in the hands of a senile Pope for 30+ years.

In the long run, this is probably the single most important reform one pope can make. It is certainly the most necessary. It is also going to open up the field to a much wider number of replacements. When the job is for life, the tendency has been to choose popes that are not expected to last too long. Ratzinger was chosen because the factions were sure that it wouldn't be too long before they would get another chance.

John Paul essentially invented the notion of the modern travelling papacy. The Pope is now expected to be globe trotting on a regular basis which is exactly what you would expect a modern leader of an international church to be doing. But thats not something that a man can be doing after 75 or so. If people want a globe trotting pope they have to have a young pope.


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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:41:54 PM

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the guy was jus tired of office i dont knw wat they will do to replace him.
sprite
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:32:55 PM

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julhard wrote:
the guy was jus tired of office i dont knw wat they will do to replace him.


actually, i would imagine that the vatican was well aware of his plans to step down long before we were and probably already have a likely candidate. i don't think you just wake up and resign the papacy on a whim one morning. :)

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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:22:03 PM

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sprite wrote:
actually, i would imagine that the vatican was well aware of his plans to step down long before we were and probably already have a likely candidate. i don't think you just wake up and resign the papacy on a whim one morning. :)


I'm actually thinking of running for Pope. My big plan is to turn Catholicism into Buddhism. We'll be sorted.

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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:31:04 PM

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sprite wrote:


actually, i would imagine that the vatican was well aware of his plans to step down long before we were and probably already have a likely candidate. i don't think you just wake up and resign the papacy on a whim one morning. :)



I think it was announced on a Monday. Maybe it was just one of those Mondays for him! We've all had them. confused1



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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:01:23 PM

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CurlyGirly wrote:



I think it was announced on a Monday. Maybe it was just one of those Mondays for him! We've all had them. confused1


Is it monday today? I had that kind of day today! Lack of sleep doesnt sets good with me! Maybe he just didnt sleep well that night!
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CurlyGirly wrote:
I think it was announced on a Monday. Maybe it was just one of those Mondays for him! We've all had them. confused1


I love the idea/image of him whacking the snooze button on his alarm on Monday morning and just being like, "Fuck it, I'm too old for this shit! I'm quitting," and puling the duvet back over his head.

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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:12:59 PM

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[quote=ByronLord]

There were two problems with the pedophile scandal. The first was the abuse, the second was the coverup that perpetuated the abuse.

If there is a causal agent for the first, look no further than priestly celibacy. There is no scriptural authority for priests, let alone celibate ones. The original reason they brought in celibacy was a power grab by the monastic faction.

The coverup has multiple causes. The main underlying cause being the notion that the church is not accountable to any other party, not civil law and certainly not the lay members. It is a medieval concept of power. But next to that was the fact that John Paul II was completely incapacitated from 2000 on and possibly much earlier. He was unable to move his head to greet someone, let alone recognize that the policy had to be changed to respond to the crisis.


###

John Paul two was a very noble man. his story in his youth and during ww2 is inspiring..yes he became old and needed help but it was the choice of the church not to ask him to step down, it came out back in the early 90's he offered due to his decrease in health...the Vatican is an extremely Feudalistic society. they hold strong their beliefs (even if they are 400 plus years old and out dated). it is what it is... He did mess up by listening to adviser's but in every culture there is a corruption in governing fields. i just didn't agree with this late man's appointment and i am glad he is stepping down...i hope the future Pope has more integrity.

Also in regards to the traveling Pope...John Paul saw the need to visit the people. times have changed and i believe he changed as much as he could for the world where the catholic church allowed flexibility. they will never in my life time see a woman appointed as a priest. they will never condone abortion and I am sorry to say i can not see them condoning gay relations...but that is their history, their bible and their belief..

I am what you would call a partial catholic is suppose.. i love most of the morals taught (Basic human rules, don't steal, don't murder, etc) but i don't aggree with the injustices i see. i attend church as this allows my children to learn and also to attend a high school that gives them opportunities that they otherwise would not get. as well as i love energy work. Reiki healing, spiritual candles i make and other energy work i do..so if i ever meet the Pope he would call me a heretic and i would just have to smile and have to agree on so many accounts.


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From a Biblical point-of-view all that Pope stuff, the hats and robes are actually non-Christian. Requiring priests and nuns to not be married is not Biblical and obviously doesn't work. Many things about the Papacy are actually traced to ancient Babylonian 'pagan' religious practices.

My intention is not to insult Catholics but things are just what they are.

I think the Catholic Church has major problems dealing with modern society. Their refusal to allow for birth control is disgraceful, especially in a world with an ever growing and extremely serious over population problem. And their stance on gay marriage and rights? Really? Still taking that approach after their male priests have been caught molesting boys in huge numbers all over the world. Consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want without the judgement of an out-of-touch ancient unyielding hypocritical organization such as the catholic Church.

See ya later Pope.


PS. Have y'all seen all the New Orleans Saints football fans that dress up like The Pope to cheer on the Saints, drink beer, yell and dance in the stands at the games? I'm not a Saints fan but I do think those guys are funny as hell.



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I don't support pedophiles. So he can go and fuck him self.

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KBech wrote:
I don't support pedophiles. So he can go and fuck him self.


Hmmm... I don't support Danes, two legged, beer swilling dogs if I ever saw one... hypocrites like there was no tomnorrow...
Yep, even had one as my boss a few years ago, we all had a party the day after he left, the new boss was a Norwegian and he thought of Danes the same as we did.

OR

You can simply say "I am not Catholic, I am not interested".

The Church started out in the days of Jesus with married priests, deacons and vicars.

The Church accepted the classical Roman (=pagan) rule of obligatory celibacy arount the Council of Nicaea, when it became obvious that they had to accept some of the rules of the "older" religions if they were ever going to successfully have them convert to Christianity.

That's when the Priests were MADE to become celibate, the Nuns MADE to accept nubility, and a lot of simbology was imported from other religions:
- Bishops' headgear "Mitra"comes from Persian cult of Mythras, as does the tiny RED candle of perennial (eternal) fire which is lit next to the Tabernacle (Jewish) where the Host (Egyptian) is preserved;
- the Host (Egyptian) is exhibited in a "Ostensorium" (Latin pagan) in the shape of the Sun (Sol Invictus, the One God, Giver of Light and Life, as in Egyptiasn Pharaoh Akhenaton, who refused the many gods and insisted on the One God, which manifested itself as the Sun)
- Vestements of Priests is Roman, from the shape to the names of the individual items to the color coding during holidays
- Religious Calendar is ROMAN, not Christian, with the sole exception of Easter (1st Sunday after the 1st full moon after the Spring Equinox) which is a solar variation of the Jewish lunar calendar
- All other festivities, from Christmas on, are pagan carried on into Christianity.
- Architecture of all churches from the 1st century up until the 19th century is Classical Roman; the Byzantine/Romanesque/Gothic/Barocque styles are merely aesthetic variations on the classical fundamentals.

Take it from an Italian Catholic, if you were to come to Italy you'd see pagan deities clothed and dressed as Madonnas, Jesus and whatnot, when in reality they are Vesta, Diana, Minerva, Apollo, Hercules...

See this youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgBk1coQ8hA



... not to mention the many times painters depicted Mary Magdalene and were forced to rename the painting "Virgin Mary" or be burned at the stake!!!


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nicola
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Here's the news of the latest papal installment: http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/16382793/pope-francis-wants-poor-church-for-the-poor/

For those of you unsure as to what a pope does, this is a light-hearted take.

Why don't they appoint a healthy guy in his 50's? They wouldn't have to change them so often then. This guy is 76. The average life expectancy of a male in the developed world, is 78.
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let's see. anti-birth control, anti-gay, anti-gay's adopting children. good to see they got someone progressive to take over *rolls eyes*

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Best Pope I know of is Carole Pope....
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Leonard Pope was my favorite ever Pope! He was one of the best college football tight ends I ever saw play. Go Dawgs! He could easily knock Pope Francis on 'her' ass and send that silly hat flying.



I hold no deference toward any catholic pontif. I sure wouldn't let 'em near an underage boy.

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From Jack Dee Live:

"Why after 2 Pope John Pauls, couldn't we have a Pope George Ringo?"

d'oh!
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I think Pope Ringo George has a better ring to it.
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