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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:45:27 AM

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More specifically, cities. And names.
Now, I can work with this to an extent, but when I have to change a characters name entirely, I get a little upset.
When I almost can't submit a story because of legitimate city names being marked wrong, I get a little peeved.
And when 'realise' is thrown back at me and I am offered the actually improper 'realize', I lol a bit, but I'm actually getting frustrated. Same thing with 'neighbour' and 'neighbor'; the 'u' actually does belong there....
All I'm saying is, I understand and appreciate the spell check function; it saved my ass on a couple that I did not catch. But wouldn't it be reasonable to have the site throw up the flag once, force a user to go through and check it to be sure that it is written properly, then perhaps allow it to submit anyways? I am sure there MUST be a way for the verifiers to check spelling on the stories they are reading so they can judge for themselves whether or not it is just the MS Word spell check screwing people over.

And, also, that Italicise button really hates my phone, or vice versa, because I could not get it to work with me to save my life.
Leaning towards it being my phone; considering turning it into the target I use to sight in my .270. Haven't decided yet.
nicola
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:51:13 AM

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This is in beta, implemented today as a trial.

Amazon do the same thing when you submit a story there for publication, they highlight "possible" errors, and ask if you'd like to change them / check, prior to publishing.

There are going to be issues we'll have to address.

People's names and place names will obviously be flagged. It would be good if we can pre-load the checking database with all the most popular male and female names, as well as all the cities / countries / towns.

We should load both the UK and US dictionaries if possible, so words like flavour spelled the US way, flavor, will not be flagged as incorrect.

The reason we're trialling it, is that we get a large number of stories submitted, where the author hasn't even read through it, hasn't spellchecked it, and it's a waste of our time double-handling them, when they shouldn't have been submitted in the first place.

Anything that auto-detects poorly written stories (accurately), will ultimately speed up the processing time.

Guest
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:02:58 AM

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Oh no, please don't misunderstand, I can appreciate the necessity of this system.
Besides the fact that I am typing on a phone (greatly increasing my average number of typos) there are still some words that I do not know how to spell. Because, let's be honest, the rules that dictate pronunciation of words in the English language are the true definition of Fubar.
So, I get it. I really do. It's just frustrating when I try to set an example for my fellow US residents and spell the words out properly, then get slapped in the face by Spell Check. lol
nicola
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:24:45 AM

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Advice - write a story on a proper computer, not your phone. There's no possible way you can check it accurately on a small portable device.

You need to use a proper WP package like MS Word or Pages.
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:43:07 AM

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If I had a computer (or easy access to one) I totally would. Sadly, I live an hour from the nearest city with a library big enough to have public computers.
Have I ever mentioned how much I love Montana?
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:02:14 AM

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JasonMarak wrote:
If I had a computer (or easy access to one) I totally would. Sadly, I live an hour from the nearest city with a library big enough to have public computers.
Have I ever mentioned how much I love Montana?


Hi Jason, I'm not sure what kind of phone you are using, but Pages for the IPhone is cheap and highly effective. I use it as my primary writing software on my IPad.

For an android phone, you can try an app called Write that converts word docs. I hope that can help.

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Guest
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:10:52 AM

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Thanks for the idea, Milik.
Actually, I found an app called Ginger that does spelling and grammar check. Gonna try that out and see how it works. :D
Mazza
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:17:33 AM

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You know, I use googledocs which means you can work online from any device, meaning that your work is always saved and up to date.. It's basic, but an excellent way of working from a phone...
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 7:27:26 AM

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Just got my latest story blocked from posting because of the words, "mmm" and "ooh" and "clit". And there seems to be no way to get around taking all them out. A pain that I sure don't want to have on every story I try to post.
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:05:29 AM

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If I was to take out all the words that were marked wrong in my latest poem, I'd end up with word spaghetti! It seems like every other word is incorrect. I accept that it's in beta stages and has creases to work through, so I'm not going to moan. I'm screwed if that's how the system is going to handle stuff because I make up a lot of words and use a lot of colloquialisms.

Out of curiosity, how many words have to be incorrect for it to reject a story on the grounds of incorrect spelling?
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:05:53 AM

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There used to be a writer here who was insistent on banging out his stories on a 1930s manual typewriter, then he'd scan the pages at a Kinko's copy shop, and borrow one of their internet computers to transfer the .pdf to our attention.

And he bitched because nobody here would bother to transcribe them for him into the story submission window.

I'm not sure if he ever had anything published or not.

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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:54:25 PM

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Wow.
That's awesome.
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:58:20 PM

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WellMadeMale wrote:
There used to be a writer here who was insistent on banging out his stories on a 1930s manual typewriter, then he'd scan the pages at a Kinko's copy shop, and borrow one of their internet computers to transfer the .pdf to our attention.

And he bitched because nobody here would bother to transcribe them for him into the story submission window.

I'm not sure if he ever had anything published or not.


since then, i have upgraded to a 1980s electric, still, for some reason, i get no love...
gav
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:08:00 PM

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This change will no longer prevent you from submitting your story.

A warning will be shown instead where you get the chance to continue even with spelling mistakes.

Oh gud im cummmmmming.....
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:17:53 PM

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gav wrote:
This change will no longer prevent you from submitting your story.

A warning will be shown instead where you get the chance to continue even with spelling mistakes.

Oh gud im cummmmmming.....


I hope the new function will encourage all authors to take more care with their proofreading and editing. sunny

Thanks, Gav. Big Hugs Now, wipe it up.


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Guest
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:20:39 PM

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Shylass wrote:


I hope the new function will encourage all authors to take more care with their proofreading and editing. sunny

Thanks, Gav. Big Hugs Now, wipe it up.

I CAN'T BREATH!!!!
nicola
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:37:13 PM

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We could allow "established" authors, to add words to an "exceptions" dictionary, which grows over time.

The system would then flag fewer and fewer correctly spelled words, the more it's used.
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:40:01 PM

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I notice, when writing either in a word doc or even email, my spell check says my spelling is incorrect. We Aussies spell correctly, although American English seems to be corrupt Embarassed . How will the new system cope with this?

Will I have to adopt an American accent when writing so my spelling is correct? (tongue in cheek now)
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:15:35 PM

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JasonMarak wrote:
Thanks for the idea, Milik.
Actually, I found an app called Ginger that does spelling and grammar check. Gonna try that out and see how it works. :D


There are also various online spell and grammar check sites...a quick search came up with this...

SpellCheckPlus
http://spellcheckplus.com/


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Milik_Redman
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:20:49 PM

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Wildcat wrote:
I notice, when writing either in a word doc or even email, my spell check says my spelling is incorrect. We Aussies spell correctly, although American English seems to be corrupt Embarassed . How will the new system cope with this?

Will I have to adopt an American accent when writing so my spelling is correct? (tongue in cheek now)

Freaking foreigners! evil4

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nicola
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:50:38 PM

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Wildcat wrote:
I notice, when writing either in a word doc or even email, my spell check says my spelling is incorrect. We Aussies spell correctly, although American English seems to be corrupt Embarassed . How will the new system cope with this?

Will I have to adopt an American accent when writing so my spelling is correct? (tongue in cheek now)


We are seeing if we can run stories through both the UK and US spellchecking routines, that way there's more flexibility. It's being worked on.
nicola
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:11:29 PM

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If anyone has a custom dictionary containing proper nouns, technical phrases etc, that would be very useful.
WellMadeMale
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:16:47 PM

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nicola wrote:
If anyone has a custom dictionary containing proper nouns, technical phrases etc, that would be very useful.


Did you happen to spot the little blurb I posted last week (from Wired.com) about the IBM computer which was fed the entire Urban Dictionary...and then how it began to behave upon further attempts to teach it slang? evil4

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Guest
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:44:30 PM

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WellMadeMale wrote:


Did you happen to spot the little blurb I posted last week (from Wired.com) about the IBM computer which was fed the entire Urban Dictionary...and then how it began to behave upon further attempts to teach it slang? evil4

Do you have the link to that? That sound positively awesome! Haha
Jack_42
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:35:02 PM

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According to academics American English is more archaic than the UK version even some of the meanings are historically different like ''mad'' meaning angry which I first noted in an Elvis song The Girl of My Best Friend. The US version is closer to Elizabethan than current UK. However I feel the US's strength is in colourful (colorful) :) sayings like ''that's all she wrote'' again from an Elvis song ''King Creole'' - wonderful.
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:45:06 PM

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Yes, while our shifts in definition have allowed for a lot of interesting sayings, it does make it difficult on a guy when he's trying to write properly.
Even though when I say 'it's pissing me off', I am using the American definition of 'piss'. I'm not getting drunk. Relax.
Jack_42
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:23:17 PM

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JasonMarak wrote:
Yes, while our shifts in definition have allowed for a lot of interesting sayings, it does make it difficult on a guy when he's trying to write properly.
Even though when I say 'it's pissing me off', I am using the American definition of 'piss'. I'm not getting drunk. Relax.


No we use that saying in the same way but we used just ''pissed'' to mean drunk not angry. We're on the piss (drinking), I'm pissed off with him (I'm angry with him). :)
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:47:07 PM

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The shifts in spelling and/or meaning are just proof that Englsh, unlike Latin for example, is a "living language". I did notice, though, the spellcheck warning thingamajiggy didn't like contractions. It clipped every contraction at the apostrophe, and told me I had spelling errors such as "wern", "wasn" and "aren". It wasn't (see what I did there?)icon_smile a big deal, though; I merely looked at them, figured out what the checker was getting all weirded out about, and hit "continue".

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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:28:58 AM

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Go home Spell Check.
You're drunk.
nicola
Posted: Friday, February 15, 2013 2:44:27 PM

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We are using both a UK and a US dictionary for the checking, and Gav is working on an import and stemming tool, so we can add custom word lists to.

I've found a few slang word lists, and we already have a database of common sex related terms, so it's all happening.

Hopefully this cuts out significantly, the amount of stories submitted where the author hasn't bothered to spellcheck their story at all, and save us a lot of unnecessary admin time.

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