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Posted: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:05:19 PM

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I have never and would never write erotic stories involving underage children having sex, scat or something with extreme violence. I had a phone sex caller ask me if I would do a sex call with him involving a baby getting chopped up. I refused the call and wouldn't write anything of the sort.
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Good for you. That was one sick puppy.

I would never write about pain or extremes such as rape, beastiality, little children etc. It is not what I am about therefore I would have difficulty putting my characters through all of it.

There is always a little of me in each of the erotic adventures. Erotica, sensuality, trust of your partner in fulfillment. In order to write erotica you (I) must have the abilitly to feel the desire building and cresting.

Those are the things that drive my body, heart and soul.

I guess the bottom line is I don't have to do something in order to write about it. Fantasy and reality are the delicious difference.
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Posted: Friday, October 30, 2009 5:15:48 AM

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Fantasy and reality are the delicious difference.


Best quote on Lush!

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Posted: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:58:06 PM

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Loislane wrote:
incest, sex involving minors, sex involving pooing and weeing(I think in porn it's referred to as German Scheizer porn) *gags*, beastiality *gags even more*

I don't mind other people writing about it but for me there is a line I will not cross.



Well, because of the guidelines in place here for perfectly understandable reasons, I will refrain from recounting a particularly memorable event I witnessed with my own under 18 yr old eyes, years ago...which involved all of the above except for incest. And it's a shame really 'cuz it is one of the funniest things I ever saw in my life; disgusting as hell, yet hilarious at the same time.

And I'm from a rural farming community in the middle of "Hey Ya'll' - hillbillyville.

There isn't much I won't write about, but I need to know a bit about the subject, so rape and incest are out of bounds, yet revenge filled retribution upon rapists and child molesters is fair game...violence is contextual...it's all around us and some of the best horror is full of it.

But this isn't a horror/fiction site.

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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:54:30 AM

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Lets see, I would never write about a personal experiance un;ess the other person involved actually asked me to. I would never write about children in a sexual situation because it's sick, not erotic at all, and illeagle. Snuff is equally sick and I could not understand why anyone wuld want to read it. For myself, scat, golden showers, extreme humilation, trully violent non consent are all off of the table simply because it doesn't interest me.

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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:25:12 AM

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Boy bands and little girl beauty pageants, both creep me out.



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Posted: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:51:46 PM

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Okay, so if offered enough money, would that change your mind about the topics you would/would not write about?
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Posted: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:42:03 PM

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Money can't buy the soul...hopefully. No father daughter incest. Until you have a daughter you can't truly appreciate that, and no snuff. When you have seen that in person (not meaning in a "Seven" context, but death in general). it ain't funny, or hot. And the antithesis of lush.
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Posted: Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:03:46 AM

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Catnip wrote:
Is there any topic or special thing, you would never write about?

It could be anything from personal things about your friends/family or death to a dog named Steve.

Please motivate why you wouldn't write about it.



I would never write about a sexual encounter involving young children. I can't even think of such a scenario without shuddering. It gives me a cold feeling inside.angry7
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Posted: Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:20:25 PM

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There are many things I wouldn't DO - certainly nothing involving children or violence, but I happen to believe that exploring subjects in fiction - especially those that are repressed - is healthy. I do not believe that writing about anything in any way promotes or condones it. On the other hand, shining light into dark places seems always beneficial.
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Catnip wrote:
Is there any topic or special thing, you would never write about?

Descriptions of child abuse.

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Posted: Sunday, December 13, 2009 9:00:11 PM

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I can't think of anything I wouldn't write about if I had the proper incentive to spend my time on it.

I am very good at separating fake from real, and I am whole heartedly(sp?) against censorship and limiting free speech, so I would have no problems (that I can predict) writing about any subject.

However, I would have to find some way to justify spending my time on it in the first place (such as subjects that don't interest me).



In order to know virtue, you must first become acquainted with vice.
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Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:39:05 AM

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I don't mind bad subjects, just bad writing. I got really bored writing about regular sex and experimented with some stories no one else was writing in my writing group. I did one on bestiality and it was more humorous than erotic and everyone seemed to like it. I also did one on snuff/necrophila and one on golden showers. I wrote an incest story for Lush and I'm sorry I did now as I think the site already has an overabundance of incest stories. Good novels deal with all the subjects not allowed in here and I personally don't like restrictions on what I can write as it just makes me want to write it. My stories are all fiction, though; I really don't want to read about people's personal experiences.
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Posted: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:55:04 AM

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Well I'd place the discussion in the larger context, outside of just lush. If you aspire to be a writer you should be able to write about pretty much anything, no matter how unpleasant the subject matter might be.

Insert typical super smart ass comment courtesy of thepainter here.
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Posted: Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:41:38 AM

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Lisa wrote:
Regarding erotica, I can't/won't write about anything I personally think is wrong or a turn-off - ... I like to feel proud of what I write and do it for the enjoyment of it. If I was tackling a subject I didn't find enjoyable, there'd be no point to it for me.


Agreed.

To add my two jiao's worth....

I'd not write about anything I do not think proper* (teacher/student, parent/child, family member/family member, whacko/______fill in the blank please), something I feel no connection to (train robberies, window washing, you know the usual), something that turns me off (bad feet, dragon breath).... basically something I just do not like is something I would not write about. **

* my opinion
** My opinion doesn't count

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Posted: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:43:33 PM

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I have four hard limits: Scat. Children. Death. Animals.

Beyond that, I'll play with all sorts of boundries, even ones I'm not especially comfortable with just to test myself.
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Posted: Monday, December 28, 2009 1:15:21 PM

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Catnip wrote:
Wouldn't writing about it, open up the eyes of some ignorant people? (talkin about the rape)
After all you choose how to lighten the actual situation.
My swedish teacher sent me to the kurator on the school when she read my shortstory about rape when I was 14. Said she thought I needed some proffessional help. The kurator sighed when she realised it was just a fictional story.
My teacher told me to keep to more suiting topics. So I built in blowjobs and other sexscenes in my shortstories from then on. well thoose where not the once I showed my mother... hehe I always made two versions. People always died in the end.


I have a saying, it is not an Opera unless someone dies at the end. icon_smile

I suppose everything is context really. The are so many questions such as "Does the writer lose control of the context once she publishes". I believe that she would. Suppose, as in your example, that you write a story about rape and that story deals with real issues, such as the brutality of the act as well as the consequences to the victim of rape, who is usually female. That would be positive. Some people would get off on it anyway. They would read the parts that they found titillating and arousing. There is nothing you can do about that.

Does this mean rape should not be a topic? Of course not, rape is a reality of all cultures even the most primitive. It will exist regardless if anyone writes about it or not. I agree with you that you can open the eyes of ignorant people as a writer but only if the writer is not ignorant themselves and has something of value to impart. Life is complicated.

I will never say never about a topic but I can state that there is a probability, so close to zero it might as well be, that I would never write anything positive about things like bestiality, feces, urine, child abuse ...

I bet you were an interesting 14 year old.giggle
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 7:31:03 PM

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My motto is never say never. Right now, I can't see myself writing about bodily excretement of any kind, violence, animals, and very young children. I have two stories that I will post at a later date, that were written on request. I think you can see a difference in those stories, because my heart wasn't really all there.

And just because I don't write about a certain subject, doesn't mean I won't read it. If it's well-written, and I can stomach the subject matter, I will read it. That's the wonderful thing about freedom and creativity. Write what you wish, it's my option not to read it.
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Posted: Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:48:08 AM

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This is fiction for the most part, though I know some story ideas come from real life experiences. Some sites like this one have restrictions to subject matter and others don't. That lets authors have plenty of outlets for their creativity. I don't believe authors should be restricted in what they truely want to write about. That doesn't mean everyone has to like it or even read it. That freedom just needs to be there. I have accepted the restrictions on this site and I am happy to stay within them. I have however written stories that could never be published here.
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Posted: Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:18:41 AM

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Very interesting question, and even more interesting replies. Thanks for posting this, it has been great reading through the responses.

I find this topic very engaging because I often write about topics that are unusual and I think any topic can be explored by a great writer (not putting myself in that category) and not come across as "wrong". I also think this ties into censorship. For example, so many people here say, "No kids" and I would totally agree however then I read about Jock Sturges and what he went through in California. He was arrested because he takes nude photos of children, however he is a nudist and the children he photographs are children of families he is friends with. The parents approved, he wasn't alone with the kids and the photos are far from pornographic. However there is an element of the erotic in his photos but it is natural, he didn't "create" it. Yet because someone saw his pictures being developed and had a knee jerk reaction, he almost went to prison for the rest of his life. He still takes photos but he said that now he is much more conscious of the poses the kids are in and if his photos show genitalia. Honestly, reading his intelligent response to the situation was rather sad. I immediately went to a gallery and purchased a print of his just to support him. I hate censorship with a passion. But on the flip side of this you have David Hamilton who I think does border on a pedophile. I think he wants to be with very young girls sexually and this comes out in his photos and his writing.

Also, there is incest. Insect. Incest. (movie reference, 10 pts to whomever gets it). I've written many stories about incest. The first one I wrote was based on royalty. The idea just came to my head that if Adam and Lilith from the bible had actually had children, just like Cane, would those children be alive today? Also, because those children would be the children of the most royal divorce ever, they would never have been kicked out of Eden and so would they be pressured to marry each other? Incest wasn't at all uncommon in the early days of "Man" but as we've covered and smothered the earth, the idea is now repulsive to us. After writing that story (many years ago before posting on Lush) I started to explore the idea of incest in my head, found that it turned me on and so it became something that pops up in my stories. However the idea of real incest, fuck that. I don't want to have sex with a family member in real life. Please. It's just fantasy.

If you've ever read "My Secret Garden" by Nance Friday, you'll find that women often have fantasies about rape, incest, bestiality, etc, but having a fantasy is a far, far cry from wanting the actual reality. However, when you write out a fantasy, how do you come to terms with the reality that there are people out there that DO want this to become reality? Am I responsible for their actions just because I write a story that may fit into their sick idea of reality?

So, honestly, there is nothing I wouldn't write about if the story is there. I think the key is that there has to be a story, a plot, a reason for writing it. I still struggle with the fact that some sicko might read a story about incest and want to go rape his sister but honestly I believe those people will do that anyway. Because I like psychology, I read about people who do fucked up things and what is going on in their minds. I find it interesting that most everyone I've read about that did horrible things did it not because of "devil music" or "porn" or whatever, they usually do it because they had a super religious family and were so repressed they were acting out in an extreme way, or they were so alone that they turned other people into objects and no longer think of being connected to other people, or they believed themselves to be "God", etc, etc.

I just find it interesting when I push the limits. I write stories as both sexes and no, I won't tell you which one is real, just like Graham Chapman, "A little early to start imposing roles on it, don't you think?". I find it extremely interesting that as a woman there is one reaction to my stories and as a man there is a completely different reaction to my stories. I think a man can write about certain topics and no one questions it but a woman writing about the same topics and it's a completely different story.

The web in general and this site have given me the means to explore my identity and my sexuality. I have explored many new realms of my mind that I never thought even existed. I would love to explore even deeper. I find that my mind is a bit like a cave and when I go spelunking, I'm often surprised by what I find. However some recesses of my cave are even more terrifying than the movie "Descent" and so what do you do with those, face them or run away screaming? I like to face them.

Thank you for allowing me to prattle on like a git, I appreciate your patience and I'm eager to hear what perhaps others think.

Oh! One thing I wouldn't write about...wait...never mind. Yes I would. evil4
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Interesting post.

A_Crowley_thebeast wrote:
Also, there is incest. Insect. Incest. (movie reference, 10 pts to whomever gets it).


Angels and Insects. Poor old Patsy Kensit!
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Posted: Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:24:54 PM

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nicola wrote:
Angels and Insects. Poor old Patsy Kensit!


10 points! Not sure where the points come from or what you do with them but they are yours! Whoohoo!

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Posted: Friday, March 12, 2010 11:39:23 AM

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anarchist wrote:
I don't mind bad subjects, just bad writing. I got really bored writing about regular sex and experimented with some stories no one else was writing in my writing group. I did one on bestiality and it was more humorous than erotic and everyone seemed to like it. I also did one on snuff/necrophila and one on golden showers. I wrote an incest story for Lush and I'm sorry I did now as I think the site already has an overabundance of incest stories. Good novels deal with all the subjects not allowed in here and I personally don't like restrictions on what I can write as it just makes me want to write it. My stories are all fiction, though; I really don't want to read about people's personal experiences.


How would you know if you were reading about someone's personal experiences if they didn't tell you? Some great writers have exclusively written about themselves and their experiences, poets often do. There are some who believe that you cannot write outside you own experience, I am not one of them, yet they have valid arguments. Would your read Anaïs Nin? How about Sylvia Plath's novel "The Bell Jar"? Each of these authors depended on their personal experiences. You are one of the better writers around here so I didn't really understand your comment.

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Posted: Friday, March 12, 2010 12:20:15 PM

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A_Crowley_thebeast wrote:
For example, so many people here say, "No kids" and I would totally agree however then I read about Jock Sturges and what he went through in California. He was arrested because he takes nude photos of children, however he is a nudist and the children he photographs are children of families he is friends with. The parents approved, he wasn't alone with the kids and the photos are far from pornographic. However there is an element of the erotic in his photos but it is natural, he didn't "create" it. Yet because someone saw his pictures being developed and had a knee jerk reaction, he almost went to prison for the rest of his life. He still takes photos but he said that now he is much more conscious of the poses the kids are in and if his photos show genitalia. Honestly, reading his intelligent response to the situation was rather sad. I immediately went to a gallery and purchased a print of his just to support him. I hate censorship with a passion. But on the flip side of this you have David Hamilton who I think does border on a pedophile. I think he wants to be with very young girls sexually and this comes out in his photos and his writing.

Also, there is incest. Insect. Incest. (movie reference, 10 pts to whomever gets it). I've written many stories about incest.


Jock Sturges is a fantastic photographer. Well done to have invested in one of his prints. Much more can be said, but for one thing he is not voyeuristic or confrontational in his photographic vision. When he has done photo shoots of minors, the parents have always been present.

Incest, insect, incest. Well, movie reference notwithstanding, the oringinal reference would be to A.S. Byatt's novella, Angels and Insects.
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I once wrote a story that had violent themes, and when i reread it, it scared the shit out of me that I could even think of these things.
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Sex between normal married people. Bor-ing!!
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Boring romantic sex! ugh!
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LadyX wrote:
Sex between normal married people. Bor-ing!!


DamonX wrote:
Boring romantic sex! ugh!


No Harlequin Romances impending from either of you, I suppose? icon_biggrin

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Posted: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:52:34 PM

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In the mid 80's, The National Lampoon did a page-for-page parody of Penthouse magazine. Penthouse, was a skin magazine known for its much celebrated Forum section of "true letters" written and sent in by readers. In the parody, under the Forum section was the short but revealing letter: I fuck potatoes. -- name and location withheld. I remember laughing for years about this satirical reproach to porn and erotica. It about sums up my experience which is; almost anything can be erotic (or taboo) if the right person is reading or writing it.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:25:23 AM

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Catnip wrote:
Is there any topic or special thing, you would never write about?

It could be anything from personal things about your friends/family or death to a dog named Steve.

Please motivate why you wouldn't write about it.



My own death. What if I predicted hows gonna happen? Then I couldnt enjoy the satisfaction of being right.

Another off topic subject would be family and real life lovers, I think it's a moral reason, I'd feel like breaking a sacred bond, touching something untouchable.
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