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dpw
Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:40:10 AM

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Tranquil wrote:
Non practicing Catholic here.

but I would like to point out that there are many types of practices in the church. Pope Frances comes from the Jesuit. I don't believe any words he speaks are no carefully choosen. His cardinals have been chancing their tails since the minute he stepped into the office. they have tried a couple of times to undo what he has said then found themselves at a loss because he actually is a man who walks his talk.

you can't change hundreds of years in one but you can start.

Jesuit is not just about servicing the masses, it is very strong in bring people into the catholic faith (One of its core principals) . this man has washed feet of the poor yes but he was at the same time indoctrinating them into the faith too.

I personally think we should "watch this space" . I believe he will be the one pope in the last 100 years to be assassinated from within but hey i am not fortune teller.

Maybe the second John Paul 1 died mysteriously
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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:51:47 AM

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WellMadeMale wrote:
I'd like to know the Pope's position about how we see Jesus' face in all kinds of different places...



Oh, that's too funny Jeff...I wonder how high you have to be to stare at your dog's butt and try to see Jesus' face...anyway, maybe I don't really want to know...Regaeman Man

Getting back on point...I do think the Roman Catholic church is slowly progressing, and that's a good thing...the church will always be at least 50 years behind the times, but at least they're moving in the right direction...



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Tranquil
Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2013 6:00:51 AM

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he could be putting out feelers

since the decline in attendance is hitting many religions, and with the world population of gay peoples is now around 17 to 20 percent, very good untaped pool of loving people. just a thought

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dpw
Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2013 6:13:21 AM

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Tranquil wrote:
he could be putting out feelers

since the decline in attendance is hitting many religions, and with the world population of gay peoples is now around 17 to 20 percent, very good untaped pool of loving people. just a thought

After all the controversies regarding catholic priests "putting feelers out" is an unfortunate turn of phrase.
The church already make us welcome, it's just we aren't allowed to have sex. As long as the church uses the old testament we'll have Leviticus thrown at us.
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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:42:21 AM

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true however Leviticus is also against tattooing and yet a good percent of Catholics have tattoos. and the amount of priest that would be closet homosexuals would be fair percentage. you have to remember as a woman i am a lower domination of catholic already, my position changed as i gave birth to my children, I was then a sacred vessel. Woman are now allowed in the church if they have had an abortion, highly negotiated and lectured but accepted, same as divorcee's, I believe they are now allowed to re-marry in the church. My marriage was not accepted as it wasn't performed in the church but now is fully accepted. the abortion is a huge one for the church to forgive, and yes you hear about the church position ever mothers day with a very heavy hand. (my children go to a catholic school, so we hear about the fundamentals all the time).

as i said you can't change a doctrine like the catholic church in a day but I would not be surprised if in years to come small concessions are made more and more, and suddenly the evil of the world in their eyes is not some much the evil and another evil will be in its place.


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dpw
Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2013 1:31:23 PM

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Tranquil wrote:
true however Leviticus is also against tattooing and yet a good percent of Catholics have tattoos. and the amount of priest that would be closet homosexuals would be fair percentage. you have to remember as a woman i am a lower domination of catholic already, my position changed as i gave birth to my children, I was then a sacred vessel. Woman are now allowed in the church if they have had an abortion, highly negotiated and lectured but accepted, same as divorcee's, I believe they are now allowed to re-marry in the church. My marriage was not accepted as it wasn't performed in the church but now is fully accepted. the abortion is a huge one for the church to forgive, and yes you hear about the church position ever mothers day with a very heavy hand. (my children go to a catholic school, so we hear about the fundamentals all the time).

as i said you can't change a doctrine like the catholic church in a day but I would not be surprised if in years to come small concessions are made more and more, and suddenly the evil of the world in their eyes is not some much the evil and another evil will be in its place.

Didn't know that about tatooes but OT was never my strongpoint in RE.
I'm afraid I'm in with the "Ye of little faith" just call me Thomas.
As far as I know you still can't get married in church if you're divorced
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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:36:26 PM

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It's always hard to come up with a response when these kinds of things show up on the news. It's even harder after reading that some Medieval monks were allowed to hook up.
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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:01:35 PM

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The Pope may be attempting to recruit, but this fucktard isn't.

He only wants to be the next US President.

If ya can't beat 'em... pay someone to do it for you.
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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:15:28 PM

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WellMadeMale wrote:
The Pope may be attempting to recruit, but this fucktard isn't.

He only wants to be the next US President.


Marco Rubio is my favorite gay Republican.
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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:37:51 PM

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affable wrote:
It's always hard to come up with a response when these kinds of things show up on the news. It's even harder after reading that some Medieval monks were allowed to hook up.

That was middle ages porn! Now I understand where kissing the bishop's ring comes from! Lol.
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redheadnicole wrote:
I love his stance on this and i agree with lafrayettemister. I also agree that people will still go on beliveing that being gay is a sin. I belive that, and i am bisexual... but like lafraylettemister said i i think he is approaching this as ' hate the sin, not the sinner.' Which a agree with 100%


I agree 100%. This is not a change of doctrine, but rather defocusing sin as opposed to building a doctrine of love and assistance which is where the church should be coming from.
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Posted: Friday, December 20, 2013 7:04:25 AM

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Gotta give it to the old guy, he's certainly not just falling into the ol' company lines. Here he tells a woman with a hungry baby that she should go ahead and breastfeed him, poor baby is hungry. The Catholic church has a long way to go, but you gotta start somewhere. At least this guy is willing to look at things through a present-time lens.

The pope is down with breastfeeding in public.







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Posted: Friday, December 20, 2013 8:38:29 AM

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I am sure people think I must be Catholic (I am not) ... but I am so very interested in a man that is so obviously himself and is changing the old ancient ways of his Church. I find Pope Francis to be inspiring and an inspiration with his refreshing look on society and humanity. We can all use a little bit more compassion .... and perhaps we will evolve to become more compassionate to others.

I say ... Way to Go, Pope!!

Here's the Time's Article on The People's Pope

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Posted: Friday, January 17, 2014 4:49:10 AM

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WellMadeMale wrote:
I'd like to know the Pope's position about how we see Jesus' face in all kinds of different places...


I would like to see the last "selfie" sent from Jesus.
No one alive knows Jesus face, so nobody "sees" Him.
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Pope is trying to be more human than his predecessors.
He knows he can not change the "laws" of the Bible, yet he recognizes that people are not equal emotionally,
but he is giving great examples to be followed by all people and not just the Christians.
No, I am not a Christian.
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Posted: Friday, January 17, 2014 5:42:08 AM

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As a Jesuit educated male, I was pleased to see him get elected to the Papacy. Since then, I have been thrilled by his humility, humanity, and his willingness to adapt Catholicism to the changing world. For too many years, 'Holy Mother Church' has been mired in a struggle to remain steadfast to ideas and ideals that are sadly outdated. Members of the order founded by Ignatius Loyola, who presided over the Spanish Inquisition, were known as 'Soldiers of God', are now known as being among the best educators in the world. Not necessarily liberal, but, at least, open minded. I think that is all Francis is looking to do. Expanding the church by listening to its members, empathizing with all walks of life. I am sure he realizes the importance to his church that if Roman Catholicism does not adapt it will go the way of the Shakers, And I sincerely hope that he soes not fall victim to an assassin.
I will get off my soapbox now...(And no, i am not a practicing Catholic)
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AGreyFoxxx wrote:
As a Jesuit educated male, I was pleased to see him get elected to the Papacy. Since then, I have been thrilled by his humility, humanity, and his willingness to adapt Catholicism to the changing world. For too many years, 'Holy Mother Church' has been mired in a struggle to remain steadfast to ideas and ideals that are sadly outdated. Members of the order founded by Ignatius Loyola, who presided over the Spanish Inquisition, were known as 'Soldiers of God', are now known as being among the best educators in the world. Not necessarily liberal, but, at least, open minded. I think that is all Francis is looking to do. Expanding the church by listening to its members, empathizing with all walks of life. I am sure he realizes the importance to his church that if Roman Catholicism does not adapt it will go the way of the Shakers, And I sincerely hope that he soes not fall victim to an assassin.
I will get off my soapbox now...(And no, i am not a practicing Catholic)


Thank you .... your words were up-lifting to me.

I am not Catholic ... but this Pope Francis is very inspiring to me. His humility and humanitarian ways are such a wonderful change ... we could use more of his type in the world.

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