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Posted: Monday, October 07, 2013 10:40:10 AM

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I recently had an odd offer.
I was talking with a close friend who is big into her toys about a recent drought in my sex life.
At the end of it all I jokingly said id like to watch her get off while I rub one out.

She said ok!!!! We haven't actually done it because shes my girlfriends bff and we agreed it wouldn't be appropriate.

But shes really hot and its just a show so... maybe.
What do you guys think
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Posted: Monday, October 07, 2013 10:59:49 AM

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Cheating is a relative term to most relationships. It's defined differently in different sorts of relationships...especially in open ones. Even still, there are lines that shouldn't be crossed.

But I digress. Is watching her best friend get off with a toy something you plan on keeping from your girlfriend? Would you like your girlfriend putting on a show for for one of your male buddies without your knowledge?



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Posted: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:39:20 PM

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1202024 wrote:
I recently had an odd offer.
I was talking with a close friend who is big into her toys about a recent drought in my sex life.
At the end of it all I jokingly said id like to watch her get off while I rub one out.

She said ok!!!! We haven't actually done it because shes my girlfriends bff and we agreed it wouldn't be appropriate.

But shes really hot and its just a show so... maybe.
What do you guys think


If you both agree it's not appropriate, then I'm pretty sure that you both know it's cheating.

Toys aren't really the issue here. Are you going to be using toys to rub one out? Nope! confused5 It doesn't matter what either of you are using to actually get the job done. It's a sexual act that you would be performing with another person without your gf knowing. Cheating. Period.

Not judging here; that's just my answer.






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Posted: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:46:33 PM

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i agree with both curly and slippery...its not the question of using toys that is the cheating....its the action that you are doing with your gf's bf. As with every relationship you set the rules of what is cheating and what is not. if your gf knows about it and is all like have fun and knock yourselves out then i guess your both golden to go.....but somehow by your "decision" not to, she would not be ok with it.

for my opinion as if toys are cheating....if the toy was with myself? then no, but toy with my hubby's bestfriend watching....heck yeah?? soooo theres my My 2 cents

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Posted: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:21:11 PM

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You already know the answer to that one. It's so not cool to do that to your girl. How will you handle the shitstorm that happens when they have a fight and the bff tells your girl all about your encounter. If you want to be with the bff then break up with your gf. Then you'll only be an a-hole and not a cheating a-hole.
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Posted: Monday, October 07, 2013 2:34:04 PM

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I don't think so, like using them on my wife. but she don't like using them as it makes her feel too good, when we first got a vibrator for her, she used it several times a day, as she loved it so much, but was afraid she'd get to attached to it, I love using it on her cause she comes so great when I bring her to her climax, yells and screams, as it feels so good, love it.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 3:06:39 PM

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Rule number 1 in cheating; NEVER do it with BBF / neighbours/ friends etc....if you are serious with your girlfriend, dont do it, she will be 200% pissed off if she finds out.
The BBF can gossip about it, then you have a problem.
If you go that way, pick a person who is not connected in any way....

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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:08:12 PM

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If my man was watching my bff get off with or without a toy I would drop kick both their asses.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:40:55 PM

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I think you should sort out your problems with your gf then you wouldn't be so frustrated.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 6:09:59 PM

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1202024 wrote:
I recently had an odd offer.
I was talking with a close friend who is big into her toys about a recent drought in my sex life.
At the end of it all I jokingly said id like to watch her get off while I rub one out.

She said ok!!!! We haven't actually done it because shes my girlfriends bff and we agreed it wouldn't be appropriate.

But shes really hot and its just a show so... maybe.
What do you guys think


Yeah, sounds exciting, but the few minutes aren't going to be worth the collateral damage.

If the relationship is NFG, end it, then go play.

If you want to keep the relationship, you can;

1.Work it out
2. go see and escort and do the same thing. You're much less likely to get caught and she won't call you afterwards.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 6:35:45 PM

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My wife and me agree that anything you would want to conceal from the other one is cheating. The act the OP describes is selfish. What does his GF get out of his actions?

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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 6:57:16 PM

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My issue with gf was that she was very sick for a while.
we have an open relationship its just that its her bff.
we have had several parties where we all srvc ourselves but her bff hasn't ever been there.
the groups have been random ppl we meet out.


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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:37:52 PM

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So now she is finally better and the 2 people who are emotianally most attached to her are both willing to hurt her badly.....?
If this comes out she will not only loose you, but also her 'bbf'....

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Posted: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 8:16:36 AM

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1202024 wrote:
My issue with gf was that she was very sick for a while.
we have an open relationship its just that its her bff.
we have had several parties where we all srvc ourselves but her bff hasn't ever been there.
the groups have been random ppl we meet out.




If you in fact have an open relationship, ask your girlfriend of she's OK with it.

Since you're asking us, I get the feeling that you already know that she's not gonna take it well.

If you value your relationship with your girlfriend, then keep the bff encounter strictly between your ears.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:47:32 AM

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1202024 wrote:
My issue with gf was that she was very sick for a while.
we have an open relationship its just that its her bff.
we have had several parties where we all srvc ourselves but her bff hasn't ever been there.
the groups have been random ppl we meet out.



If you just want to beat your meat get a porno. She may want to watch you, a sort of pick-me-up.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:22:28 PM

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No I don't think using toys is cheating...
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:29:53 AM

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It is simple... "cheating" involves anything that is against set rules. The degree of cheating and what it means to a relationship depends on what rule or agreement was broken. It is really that simple. What may be cheating to one relationship may NOT be cheating to another based on the rules and agreements they have. And a good rule of thumb is that if you have to ASK if it is cheating, there is a good chance that it IS. But if in doubt, ask your partner, not "others"; because in the end, THAT is what matters, not what we think.

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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:25:26 AM

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JohnC wrote:
It is simple... "cheating" involves anything that is against set rules. The degree of cheating and what it means to a relationship depends on what rule or agreement was broken. It is really that simple. What may be cheating to one relationship may NOT be cheating to another based on the rules and agreements they have. And a good rule of thumb is that if you have to ASK if it is cheating, there is a good chance that it IS. But if in doubt, ask your partner, not "others"; because in the end, THAT is what matters, not what we think.

I remember this guy! Really sad, he was only about 30 and hadn't had sex for years, his wife went off sex altogether! I don't know how he coped at that age!
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:49:26 AM

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dpw wrote:

I remember this guy! Really sad, he was only about 30 and hadn't had sex for years, his wife went off sex altogether! I don't know how he coped at that age!

LOL I am not saying whether cheating is justified or right or wrong, only commented on what "is" or "is not" cheating. bootyshake

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I don't think this is a question about toys. Ask yourself if you GF would consider it cheating. If she would, then it is cheating.
I think you already know the answer too, so does her "bff".

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Posted: Thursday, February 06, 2014 10:06:25 PM

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Not only no, but HELL NO! I love using toys both on myself as well as on other girlfriends of mine and some guy friends. Toys were meant to help enhance the experience and I believe that they do exactly that! Why wouldn't someone want to use a toy if in the end, it helps to provide you with a mind-blowing, body-wracking orgasm? To do otherwise is to cheat both yourself and your partner.
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Posted: Thursday, February 06, 2014 10:14:20 PM

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Yes and no if it's just you no but using them with someone else then yes even if your not having intercourse by sexually touching someone else its cheating.
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Posted: Sunday, February 16, 2014 8:53:20 AM

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Ask your girlfriend, you will know by her reaction whether or not it is cheating!... I have a feeling you would be free to do whatever you please after that conversation! angry7
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Posted: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:52:03 PM

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No i don't think it is cheating. If it is then masterbation is cheating and we all know it's not



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Posted: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 6:19:55 AM

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It's the BFF part that gets me. If she's furious after she finds out, and she will find out, who will she turn to? You damaged the relationship with her two most important people in her life.

IMHO, start dating your wife. Rebuild that intimacy again. I've been through serious illness with a wife before and it changes everything. You become a caretaker, a role you didn't want and builds resentments over time; she became dependent, something that destroys the self esteem of every woman. You're not the same people you were before the illness and likely never will be again, but you're also not the same people you were with the illness. Take the time to get the new woman, your survivor wife, and try to fall in love again.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:57:00 PM

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Guest wrote:
I recently had an odd offer.
I was talking with a close friend who is big into her toys about a recent drought in my sex life.
At the end of it all I jokingly said id like to watch her get off while I rub one out.

She said ok!!!! We haven't actually done it because shes my girlfriends bff and we agreed it wouldn't be appropriate.

But shes really hot and its just a show so... maybe.
What do you guys think


This is a very interesting question.

First of all, it has nothing to do with using toys. Using toys is not cheating UNLESS you are using them on another person other than your SO.

But back to the OP question. The fact that it is your GF's BFF makes it ethically wrong but is it really cheating? If he was to go to see a live sex show( not even sure they have them anymore) and see some woman use a toy to get off in front of an audience, would that be cheating? To me it isn't. Its not much different to watching porn in some ways. So why should it matter that it is someone close to his GF.

Personally I don't consider it cheating, but it is still wrong!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:35:24 PM

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If done with all consenting then it's not cheating.

But doing it without your SO aware and you're hiding it then that's cheating and you know it so why ask the question?
You looking for justification for cheating?
If so, then you are all ready thinking about cheating it's just a matter of time.

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Posted: Monday, February 24, 2014 12:08:23 AM

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I don't think so but am a guy I woul get offended if my girlfriend watched a guy get off
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Posted: Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:07:53 PM

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Not when you do it right.

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Posted: Thursday, February 27, 2014 6:29:24 PM

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I don't think it's cheating at all. Though it could prove some sexual probs in a relationship
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