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9/11 Koran burning pastor used supporters as unpaid labourIf you're ignorant enough to throw those stones, you better be prepared to have your closets examined for ghosts...very carefully these days. (* spelled phonetically on purpose)
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omg! omg! omg! are people really this stupid? i mean really? here;s my favorite line...
"We believe strongly this is something God has called us to do," said Mr Sapp
whaaaaa? god told you to burn a book? i think god shoulders are big enough to handle the koran. and hey..maybe its the god of the koran that exists and these guys will burn in hell for destroying His word. hell, who i am i kidding they're going to hell anyway. hope they come to my hell...i got a special place for idiots like this
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At the risk of being excommunicated from Lush, I ask you to take a step back and apply logic to this fiasco. The doofuses ....erm... I mean the religious sect people are merely exercising their freedom of expression in burning their own property (assuming they actually own the Koran's they are burning). That is there right. Have a nice day. My problem with this whole thing is that IF....and it's a really big IF....the dip-sticks at CNN had exercised some common sense and hadn't made such a big deal about this on the news then I would have never heard about the 50-strong congregation of doofuses all the way over here on my tranquil isle. And I apologise for blaming CNN, but they broke the news for we foreigners here.
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mercianknight wrote:At the risk of being excommunicated from Lush, I ask you to take a step back and apply logic to this fiasco. The doofuses ....erm... I mean the religious sect people are merely exercising their freedom of expression in burning their own property (assuming they actually own the Koran's they are burning). That is there right. Have a nice day. My problem with this whole thing is that IF....and it's a really big IF....the dip-sticks at CNN had exercised some common sense and hadn't made such a big deal about this on the news then I would have never heard about the 50-strong congregation of doofuses all the way over here on my tranquil isle. To me, the fact that they have the right to burn Quran's isn't in question- of course they have the right. You say you would rather they not get coverage, but I'm on the opposite side applauding the media for shining a bright light of scrutiny on these cockroaches. Everyone has the right to free speech- they also have to deal with the consequences of saying and doing dumbass things. The bigoted and intolerant of our society should be pointed at and drug out into the open for ridicule and scrutiny, it's my belief that it can only help to stop extremist beliefs from gaining more of a foothold, because for ever nutjob who sees the coverage and finds his new cause, there are many others who know crazy when they see it, and hopefully will shun it, too. Anyone who says "eh, it's just a few crazy people, pay them no mind", misses the point in my opinion. It's only a few crazy people now, but as the followers of Islam can attest, it only takes a few to inflict damage, and take advantage of other circumstances to get more legitimacy with otherwise non-crazy people. Somebody who is showing such hateful leadership doesn't deserve to be able to do so quietly. Some may say, "well what if it was your beliefs that were being blasted over the airwaves?", to which I say, bring it on. If it's something I believe in, why would I be ashamed for it to get media coverage?
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Gen. Petraeus said that it would put our troops in danger overseas. I have to agree with him.
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It's easy for this group of assholes to do shit like this because they are not over there on the frontlines with the troops. The only thing they might accomplish is to add to the hostility the troops encounter.

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chefkathleen wrote:Gen. Petraeus said that it would put our troops in danger overseas. I have to agree with him. Exactly- what's this crazy mo-fo doing? He's practicing hate and causing our guys harm. And I bet he preaches prayers for the troops too, while doing this stuff.
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I have such mixed thoughts on this. On the one hand I support his right to burn a book if he wants to. On the other, he has no right to put my brothers and sister in the military in harms way by pissing off the people overseas that believe in the quoran. Then with another thought I just wish the sensationalized media that's searching for ratings would shut the hell up and stop giving this guy the attention he so craves. He'll crawl back under his rock and go away.
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and MAYBE if he was really doing this because he truly felt this would benefit the people in his ministry (not really sure how hed get to that but whatever) it seems though that he uses his ministry as a money making machine rather than serving the people and bringing to them gods message
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I present to you: Barack Hussein Obama.  Promised transparency in government, ran against a lack of transparency during Bush years. Didn't provide it, and didn't change a thing about how he governs vs. Bush. Promised to introduce immigration legislation in the first year. No push whatsoever. Promised to bring the troops home in 16 months- Promised not to hire lobbyists- said 'the days of lobbyists and special interests setting the agenda are over'- then he hired at least a dozen of them. Made all kinds of noise about not putting Wall Street above the concerns of Main Street- then kept the key people in power from the Bush years, and filled his financial advisors and Treasury with high-level Wall Street insiders. Now, surprise: Wall Street is well cared for, anyone with open eyes can see that. Promised to eliminate earmarks- but the stimulus bills are full of them. Promised to put healthcare negotiations on C-SPAN- but they weren't there. No, I'm not surprised that a politician would lie and be hypocritical when he's trying to win an election, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be called out for it whenever it happens. It was kind of an important election, too.
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LittleMissBitch wrote:and MAYBE if he was really doing this because he truly felt this would benefit the people in his ministry (not really sure how hed get to that but whatever) it seems though that he uses his ministry as a money making machine rather than serving the people and bringing to them gods message They all do.
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I guess I should add to that IMO.
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Please review our terms about religious posts.
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nicola wrote:Please review our terms about religious posts. As far as that retard's attention getting proclamation of his intent to burn another sacred religious book, I don't see any hypocrisy in that. I see the hypocrisy of him being another greasy slimeball forcing his parishioners to donate free labor for him to pad his bank account. The book burning thing is just dumbassedness. Funny in it's own way. Let's try to put this ship back on it's keel and put hypocrisy on display, not stupidity or religion bashing.
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I hadn't read the article. Apologies. Was very early in the morning when I replied.
I'm with Angelina on this one: "I have hardly the words that somebody would do that to somebody's religious book."
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Aww man, I was going to post a thread on this topic.... But I got beaten to it. Curse you WMM! (Can we make a fist-shaking emoticon?) I think that giving this guy so much exposure is giving him exactly what he wants. As for the hypocrisy...Pretty much par for the course.
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I find it interesting that he uses psalm119 as the one to punish people with. Just shows how easy some people are manipulated. As for the burning, dumb white trash is as dumb white trash does.
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Stupid action will get get me killed even though I am not an American...Don't you guys have enough problems of your own without having to creating more? What I cannot understand is why a christian minister be so full of hate and revenge when God says "I will be the judge" and "vengeance is mine" and the bible says "God is love". You guys starting a new christian doctrine??
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inepa wrote:Stupid action will get get me killed even though I am not an American...Don't you guys have enough problems of your own without having to creating more? What I cannot understand is why a christian minister be so full of hate and revenge when God says "I will be the judge" and "vengeance is mine" and the bible says "God is love". You guys starting a new christian doctrine?? how will this get you killed?
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inepa wrote:Stupid action will get get me killed even though I am not an American...Don't you guys have enough problems of your own without having to creating more? What I cannot understand is why a christian minister be so full of hate and revenge when God says "I will be the judge" and "vengeance is mine" and the bible says "God is love". You guys starting a new christian doctrine??  Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me, but this thread is for hypocritical behavior, not another thread to rail on and on and on about this religion vs that religion. thankyathankyathankya
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nicola wrote:Please review our terms about religious posts. What, no religious posts? Nothing to do with God or that sort of thing??? I agree that the media shouldn't encourage these people by giving them attention... Funny article though, I think he found a way to get the barnacles cleaned off his boat...
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Jones has agreed to cancel the burnings. HE says that they guy in charge of the mosque building in NYC has agreed to call it off and build somewhere else.
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Did they have to buy all the Qurans for this burning? Will Barnes and Noble take them all back if they lost the receipt? Is it wierd if they purchased Qurans for the purpose of burning them?
"Sorry, sir- we're all out of Qurans. A vanload of white trash came in and bought them all the other day. Damndest thing...."
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LadyX wrote:Did they have to buy all the Qurans for this burning? Will Barnes and Noble take them all back if they lost the receipt? Is it wierd if they purchased Qurans for the purpose of burning them?
"Sorry, sir- we're all out of Qurans. A vanload of white trash came in and bought them all the other day. Damndest thing...." hahaaaaaaaaaaaaa lmFao!
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LittleMissBitch wrote:LadyX wrote:Did they have to buy all the Qurans for this burning? Will Barnes and Noble take them all back if they lost the receipt? Is it wierd if they purchased Qurans for the purpose of burning them?
"Sorry, sir- we're all out of Qurans. A vanload of white trash came in and bought them all the other day. Damndest thing...." hahaaaaaaaaaaaaa lmFao! "Fuckin' A, man. Fuckin' A..." (LOL)
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Exakta66 wrote:nicola wrote:Please review our terms about religious posts. What, no religious posts? Nothing to do with God or that sort of thing??? Hah! My question about God / the concept of a higher power has nothing really to do with any specific religion, there's a fine line I don't think I crossed As Wellmademale correctly stated, this thread is about hypocrisy, hence my reason to try and get it back on track after it started to become derailed.
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LadyX wrote:chefkathleen wrote:Gen. Petraeus said that it would put our troops in danger overseas. I have to agree with him. Exactly- what's this crazy mo-fo doing? He's practicing hate and causing our guys harm. And I bet he preaches prayers for the troops too, while doing this stuff. I was watching Fox. Not sure why I was watching Fox, but it was on. Some was saying about the purpose of the koran burning was to expose Islam for what it is. I agree that somebody should have the right to burn a book, but not with the are ignorant, misinforming people and causing such hate.
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sorry nic, I posted that before seeing what you posted.
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sorry, but I don't believe in burning any books. i often look in stores for the vintage books that need a home. Not religious here, but all books have a purpose and some light if you are open minded enough to look for it.
This guy though is only looking for free advertisement and he's getting it.
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I do not know if there are any other Muslims in this forum, but I am one. Now I want to hear some answers for these questions I thought of: What value is burning the Quran is for anyone? Did any of the folks who plan to burn it read it before they did? If not how do they judge it? I think the guy is looking for free publicity, but what's worse is his action is provocative to over a billion Muslims worldwide, so for him to show on TV he is screwing up an already not so healthy relationship (unfortunately) between Islam and the west (including the US). Now that's selfish I think.
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