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I have Roget's Thesaurus somewhere...not sure if it's the 21st Century one though... Does it matter what century it's from?
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DirtyMartini wrote:I have Roget's Thesaurus somewhere...not sure if it's the 21st Century one though. Does it matter what century it's from? As long as it's not from the 19th century (the 1800's,) I guess you're good. :) The point is, every writer should have a Thesaurus to keep from using the same words over and over in their stories.
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LadySharon wrote:I have Men are From Mars, Women are From Venus in storage. I want to get the writing erotica book relatively soon from my best friend Amazon.com That book, Writing Erotica, is where I learned the rule: "If you can take the sex out of the Erotica and still have a viable story -- you did it WRONG." Best thing that ever happened to my writing.
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MorganHawke wrote:DirtyMartini wrote:I have Roget's Thesaurus somewhere...not sure if it's the 21st Century one though. Does it matter what century it's from? As long as it's not from the 19th century (the 1800's,) I guess you're good. :) The point is, every writer should have a Thesaurus to keep from using the same words over and over in their stories. thesaurus.com <-- my best friend when I'm sitting at the computer  dictionary.com <-- is it sad I use this too? lol Would a printed thesaurus be better? I've never actually held the real thing in my hand and looked at it, so I've got nothing to compare the electronic version to. 
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Jingle wrote:thesaurus.com <-- my best friend when I'm sitting at the computer dictionary.com <-- is it sad I use this too? lol Would a printed thesaurus be better? I've never actually held the real thing in my hand and looked at it, so I've got nothing to compare the electronic version to. Those are very good sites, but YES. A printed Thesaurus would be MUCH better. -- My print thesaurus has over 957 pages with 20,000 main entries or headwords, which generates over 500,000 synonyms. Your site doesn't even come close to that many words and their synonyms available -- and my book is over 10 years old. Seriously. Go to the bookstore, find a thesaurus, open it to a random page, and LOOK at how many synonyms are available per word then compare it to the site's entries. Thesaurus.com is only fit for a child in comparison.
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MorganHawke wrote:LadySharon wrote:I have Men are From Mars, Women are From Venus in storage. I want to get the writing erotica book relatively soon from my best friend Amazon.com That book, Writing Erotica, is where I learned the rule: "If you can take the sex out of the Erotica and still have a viable story -- you did it WRONG." Best thing that ever happened to my writing. Totally take this point..... Recently shelved a story called "Blue On Black" where an older white detective is seduced by a young black woman... Only problem was, after about 3,500 words of back story my characters were nowhere near to doing the deed.... It was interesting stuff, but it wasn't Lush Stories..... Nice story, but not what I wanted to write.... xx SF
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stephanie wrote:MorganHawke wrote:"If you can take the sex out of the Erotica and still have a viable story -- you did it WRONG." Totally take this point. Recently shelved a story called "Blue On Black" where an older white detective is seduced by a young black woman... Only problem was, after about 3,500 words of back story my characters were nowhere near to doing the deed. It was interesting stuff, but it wasn't Lush Stories. Nice story, but not what I wanted to write. xx SF An easy way to get around that is by Writing the Sex Scene first, then write the story around it.
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Great recommendations! I also highly recommend Writing the Breakout Novel by Don Maass, and How Not to Write a Novel by Howard Mittelmark and Sandra Newman.
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Oh, I've heard extremely good things about both of those books! I just haven't had the opportunity to read them -- yet.
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MorganHawke wrote:Oh, I've heard extremely good things about both of those books! I just haven't had the opportunity to read them -- yet. "How Not to Write..." is worth reading for the humor alone. The examples are hilarious. But it's quite insightful, too. And "Breakout" is definitely a good one.
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I love Orson SC! I'm going to download his books and read them on vacation next week. Thanks! CR
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Yes, Characters and Viewpoint is one of a handful of favourites references that I keep going back to.
I see MorganHawke has one or two on "scenes" that I must check out. Another favourite of mine on that theme is Novelists Essential Guide to Crafting Scenes by Raymond Obstfeld.
Some good stuff in this thread.
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daviddownunder wrote:Yes, Characters and Viewpoint is one of a handful of favourites references that I keep going back to. Me too! daviddownunder wrote:I see MorganHawke has one or two on "scenes" that I must check out. It's an excellent book about writing in Chronological Order, (Action THEN Reaction.) Not just the paragraphs, but in the sentence itself. I only wish I'd read it BEFORE I learned it the hard way. daviddownunder wrote:Another favourite of mine on that theme is Novelists Essential Guide to Crafting Scenes by Raymond Obstfeld. Oooooo! Sounds like something I'd really like! daviddownunder wrote:Some good stuff in this thread. I agree!
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CharlotteRusse1 wrote:I love Orson SC! I'm going to download his books and read them on vacation next week. Thanks!CR Orson Scott Card ROCKS!
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GallagherWitt wrote:MorganHawke wrote:Oh, I've heard extremely good things about both of those books! I just haven't had the opportunity to read them -- yet. "How Not to Write..." is worth reading for the humor alone. The examples are hilarious. But it's quite insightful, too. And "Breakout" is definitely a good one. Totally agree! For example, "The Penis Like Sausage" wherein the author uses inappropriate metaphors. I find the sub headers a great way to remember their points. Like "The gum on the mantelpiece"; I now catch myself looking at points in my stories when I'm editing and saying, is that mantlepiece gum? Or if I can't figure out how to get from A to B I say I'm having an Underpants Gnome issue. Got a friend who raves about Don Maass. I have "The Fire in Fiction" on my shelf waiting to be read :P The other one I found incredibly useful was "Self Editing for Fiction Writers" by Browne and King. A little strict in places in terms of it's "rules" but very well illustrated with examples.
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I'm going to hunt down a few of those titles. Well picked! :)
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What about the great standard, Strunk & White's "Elements of Style"?
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Tiepinkraider wrote:What about the great standard, Strunk & White's "Elements of Style"? Strunk and White is my"go to" book when I am unsure about punctuation. (which is not often, unless I am doing technical writing and have to reference my work) Another reference I find useful, and interesting bedtime reading, is The Dictionary Of American Slang by Robert Chapman.
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