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nicola
Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:12:12 PM

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This has been touched on previously here, but not in detail.

The issue surrounding privacy on Facebook is now getting a lot more international media exposure, and people are starting to fight back.

Zuckerberg himself, has been quoted early on in the piece, that people are "dumb fucks" thinking he will keep their details private (http://gizmodo.com/5538489/19+year+old-facebook-ceo-didnt-take-your-privacy-seriously-either). He was 19 at the time, so he could be partially excused for his flippancy.

It's got to the stage hackers are getting more than a little miffed:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/10009487/hacker-group-plans-to-kill-facebook/

Quote:
A hacker group known as Anonymous have said they will "kill" Facebook on November 5, in retaliation to what it calls a breach of privacy.

The most popular social media site in the world - Facebook has over 500 million registered users - has been selling information to government agencies and given access to information security firms to allow them to "spy on people", the hacker group alleged.

In a video posted on Youtube, the secret organisation called on "willing hacktivists" to join them in their battle against Facebook and privacy.

"Everything you do on Facebook stays on Facebook regardless of your 'privacy' settings, and deleting your account is impossible," it says.




I haven't used anything other than very basic personal information on Facebook, and only set up an account for networking purposes. I don't trust Facebook or any other website to keep my details private (except lush of course!).

Facebook have over 500 million members, complete with information on: email addresses, sex, age, location, likes, dislikes etc. They even ask if you like or dislike products they are advertising. It's a marketers dream to have that info at their fingertips.

So, for some questions.

Who should be responsible for policing sites like Facebook, to protect your rights to privacy? Or should they be allowed to do as they please? You knowingly signed up and gave them the information after all.

Do you agree with what Anonymous are trying to do to get the message out there?

It seems educated people are well aware this is going on at Facebook, yet nobody seems to be doing much about it / cares. Do you? Is there even a problem to discuss?
Guest
Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:43:16 PM

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If you'd like to make a statement that will change the world and take such effect, tap into Rupert Murdoch's billions and transfer funds posthumously to a needy organization, or a collection of unscrupulous funds that have been gained.

By this impending act, they will become what the US federal government is, a schizophrenic entity and/or manipulative entity that will terrorize in the guise of protection. "We are looking out for you." Patriot Act, this act, same act, different verses.

Oh, and all brethren of the anon's will only act altruistically for the better good and never use the information there for the pilfering for personal gains?

Egocentricity run amok.


Kornpopper
Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:22:27 PM

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This is quite interesting. I have heard of this before but did not give it much thought until recently. I do have a facebook account and there are times I wish I had never got one. What surprises me is that in your quote Nicola, these hackers say there is no way in which to delete your account. That in itself should be against the law since these people are willing enough to join the social network they should also be allowed to leave when and if they so choose, just as in their jobs or baseball games etc. If we willingly put our personal information out there we should by law also be able to remove said information at any given time without cause.

Another interesting point is I recently changed my privacy setting so only my friends can see my posts and pictures. On the page it clearly states who has access to your information. If facebook is actually selling or giving out our personal information they are breaking the law since they are claiming that only certain people can see your profile and information.

I think if I could go back I would not even have a facebook account just because it's more of a hassle sometimes then it's worth. I'm computer challenged so figuring things out takes a while and I am still figuring things out here on lush. For a business I can see where it might come in handy for advertising purposes but for the average joe it probably is not worth the extra time and grief.

As a side note I have to thank you Nicola for creating this site. This is by far the best site I have been a part of, it makes facebook look like a little bitch. The conversations hilarious, and the atmosphere is welcoming, and the people are uninhibited and seuxally open. Why should we be ashamed about something we all enjoy? Not here we aren't. So a toast to you Nicola Pour Wine

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Buz
Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:46:29 PM

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eviotis wrote:
If you'd like to make a statement that will change the world and take such effect, tap into Rupert Murdoch's billions and transfer funds posthumously to a needy organization, or a collection of unscrupulous funds that have been gained.

By this impending act, they will become what the US federal government is, a schizophrenic entity and/or manipulative entity that will terrorize in the guise of protection. "We are looking out for you." Patriot Act, this act, same act, different verses.

Oh, and all brethren of the anon's will only act altruistically for the better good and never use the information there for the pilfering for personal gains?

Egocentricity run amok.




I hear ya Eviotis, another words 'we're fucked and shit outta luck!' They know every porn pic we ever looked at, everytime we ever sexted, got details of any cyber sexing we've ever done, the list goes on and on...

Guest
Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:27:39 PM

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Guest
Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:30:36 PM

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Yes definetly Big Brother is watching and sad part is no one cares as they are mining our info and comment is this is so cool
Dirty_D
Posted: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:17:39 AM

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i am fairly possesive of my right to privacy; however, if you sign up for facebook, tagged, even lush you have to be aware that you are sharing information/pics ect and everything you post on the internet is now out of your control.

DirtyMartini
Posted: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:44:45 AM

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I have a Facebook account and I was just trying to figure out what someone could possibly find out about me there that's not in the local phone book...more info there actually, as far as address and phone numbers...

Hmmm...oh wait...it says on Facebook that I know the following languages...this could be important...

English
Smartass English
Sarcasm (Fluent)
Straight Up Mumbling
Fluent Drunkanese
animal noises
Cursing in American Sign Language
60's Slang
70s jive
Wasted
Hillbillly
Prison Talk
Language of the Llamas
Dog Whispering
text language xx
Angry Unicorn.

Never mind...maybe I should be more concerned about my privacy on Facebook...happy8


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Dirty_D
Posted: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:01:42 AM

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fyi: those in a professional field should be aware that potential employers can frequently see your facebook.

mumslover69
Posted: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:27:34 AM

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Did you all know that all people who have contacted you on face have there phone no. in your profile. anyone can access them. click on account then click on edit friends then click on contacts. youll bee surprised whos no. is on there.
Guest
Posted: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:54:12 AM

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And if you've synced your mobile with it your number will be there as well.
ArtMan
Posted: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:57:57 AM

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Ahh... The internet is a spy's best friend. And Facebook is better than an interrogation.

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Guest
Posted: Sunday, August 14, 2011 3:51:11 AM

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Facebook has just made it easier to get info they have always been collecting. I know this isn't a good attitude to have but if you have a credit card, bank account, etc. etc. this info is already out there. We rely on all the companies we do business with to keep our financial info safe and private and we know they aren't very good at that so why should I care about name number and email on Facebook. As someone else said it's not that much different than a phonebook. Greatest strength of the internet is info is available for anyone at any time. Biggest weakness of the internet is info is available for anyone at anytime. Those are the facts and we should all learn to deal with them.
rxtales
Posted: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:58:42 AM

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I don´t see the big deal. When I put my information up on the internet, I didn´t expect to keep all of that information private. That´s why I am not someone who updates my facebook page about every little thing that has happened in my life
Dirty_D
Posted: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:51:41 PM

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I know people who tell us EVERYTHING: "gott go poop, brb" 'leaving for the next 4 hrs, here is my address & a list of my valuables" ect...

i actually had to sign up bc of a class i was taking. in as an online class(gen ed) and the teacher wanted us to us it as a forum....



Guest
Posted: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:01:53 PM

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its getting really crazy the geo tag feature for mobile should never have been added. no company should give dumb fucks the ability to tell the world exactly were they are its simplly not responsible like many of zuck's policy changes he's young and doesn't give a shit but thats not good for the 500,000,000+ people he is responsible for
Guest
Posted: Saturday, February 11, 2012 5:36:42 PM

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A lot of people says: "I don't mind that the information I give won't be private; I have nothing to hide, you know!" But that's not the point. It's the fact that the sum of all the information, gathered from millions and millions of members, is in hand of a bunch of totally irresponsible persons, who can and will use it for their own fishy purposes; will they be of economical or political nature. I was a member for a very short period, until I realized what was going on.
charmbrights
Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2012 6:48:25 AM

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Vikka wrote:
... I was a member for a very short period, until I realized what was going on.
Too late - your information has already gone to Facebook's customers.

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Guest
Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:49:35 AM

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charmbrights wrote:
Too late - your information has already gone to Facebook's customers.


I know! And that's sad, but anyway I won't leave any more information to the sharksfish (That was the closest to a shark that I could findicon_biggrin )
CaliGurl77
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2012 2:30:50 PM

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Well, I believe privacy should be established on Facebook, but I believe it's up the user to establish it. For example, I've come across many people who appear as mutual friends on my page, however they haven't set anything to private and I can easily scroll down their page and creep through their photos. I believe Facebook has set enough regulations for privacy, but the user has to establish it. I think some people purposely don't set privacy because they want others to "creep" on their page, but that comes with consequences, and I don't think they realize it.
WellMadeMale
Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2012 11:57:19 AM

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Don't pick on Facebook. You'll get hosed, just on general principals. They can spy on your but not the other way around.

A software development student in the U.K. who hacked
into Facebook via an employee's account is jailed after being
found guilty of stealing intellectual property.


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charmbrights
Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2012 2:34:43 AM

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CaliGurl77 wrote:
Well, I believe privacy should be established on Facebook, but I believe it's up the user to establish it. ...
That is exactly the problem - the user CANNOT establish any privacy on any site (s)he does not own and control. ALL activity and ALL use of data on a computer is entirely under the control of its owner. If you send me an email (disregarding all the other computers in the link from you to me) I can do anything I like with that data and you cannot prevent it. If you post (say) a story on here and I read it on my computer, there is NOTHING you can do to control what I do with it once it is on my screen.

Forget Facebook - at least you know who they are. In the much touted "Cloud" not even the service providers know where the data actually IS; they only know how to retrieve it. To you it looks like another multiple terabyte hard drive on your machine, but it isn't; it's just out there somewhere in cyberspace being controlled by who knows whom, and being accessed by who knows whom. The only answer is to keep everything encrypted with a REALLY high quality encryption algorithm, and that defeats the whole purpose of social network sites!

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Pariah
Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 4:19:47 PM

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Its not just facebook though. With the advancement of technology the lust for information grows more and more. From simple advertising on ebay to government monitoring. In the UK we have something called the Data Protection Act which is law basically preventing anyone using your information unless necessary and permission has been given but its a joke. Not enforced or respected. Considering the internet is a global network the servers and hosts of some sites do not reside in the UK and therefore dont have to follow it either.

Google stores more information on users more than anyone else and seel that info to advertising companies. Most search engines only search 10% of the world wide web. Whats the other 90%? Databases with our information! The only way to maintain privacy is to not use the technology. This of course is not possible in this day and age. Its what you call being had by the short and curlies.

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