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nicola
Posted: Monday, March 12, 2012 11:25:03 PM

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http://www.onlineeducation.net/digital-textbooks

Apparently, South Korea is investing $2 billion to ensure all textbooks are digital by 2015.

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To some it may seem like we’ve always had them, but the world of eReaders is still fairly new. But, as Apple releases its 3rd iPad to the world, it seems like they are here to stay. This past summer, 15% of Americans said they use an electronic reader device such as a Kindle, iPad or Nook to read books while 85% did not. Fast forward seven months, and that number has almost doubled – now almost three in ten U.S. adults (28%) are using one of these devices to read books.


http://www.teleread.com/paul-biba/ereader-usage-continues-to-grow-says-harris-poll-almost-30-of-us-adults-using-them/

No wonder shares in the likes of Amazon, and eReader component manufacturers are going sky high.
joanne84
Posted: Monday, March 12, 2012 11:34:38 PM

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Sigh. As much as I'm a techie, nothing still beats the feel and smell of a real book on your hands :( textbooks included.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 12:39:26 AM

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More reasons for me to keep my box of old books, then.

I'll be honest...I really like the idea of textbooks being digital. Instead of carrying
those huge, leaden history of art books around school all day (sometimes night), I
can have it available on a tablet.

Also, no more cost excuses to have pictures in the text, and full-colored images at
that. One can dream, right? :D

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nicola
Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:08:13 PM

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Should save a few trees too.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:15:15 PM

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On a related note...I saw somebody shared this over on FB today...

Encyclopaedia Britannica To Cease Print Edition After 244 Years
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/13/encyclopaedia-britannica-online_n_1343263.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

That's like bizarre to me...I'm rather certain that for a lot of people my age EB was looked upon as a fixture in every library...and the first place you looked when you needed to do a report for school...

Oh well...proof that times do indeed change...


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nicola
Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:49:30 PM

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DirtyMartini wrote:
On a related note...I saw somebody shared this over on FB today...

Encyclopaedia Britannica To Cease Print Edition After 244 Years
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/13/encyclopaedia-britannica-online_n_1343263.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

That's like bizarre to me...I'm rather certain that for a lot of people my age EB was looked upon as a fixture in every library...and the first place you looked when you needed to do a report for school...

Oh well...proof that times do indeed change...


Kids these days blindly head to wikipedia instead, believing everything they read there, to be the truth.
Guest
Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:48:56 AM

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Yes, I just read Encyclopedia Britannica is publishing their last print edition. That is a bit sad.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:57:23 AM

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I think printed textbooks will disappear, but I agree with techie it is nice to have a real book, if you drop it you don't care. Who knows, I have never seen a paper free office.
Buz
Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:17:24 AM

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I would rather read a book on a printed page. Less eye strain. But no doubt everything will be digital before long, until a sun burst wipes everything out or a military attack.

You all do know that the military already had magnetic weapons that can wipe out all digital data. The US Navy is currently experimenting with a weapon that can totally shut down all computerized weaponry, steering, etc. of an enemy ship, making it a useless sitting piece of floating metal with no defense whatsoever.

Just think of the damage one of the weapons spikes could do. The US military is developing these weapons that could shut down entire militaries and nations. One big zap and everything digital you have is wiped clean and rendered useless.

But as long as that does not happen all text books on one device would be much more affordable and easier for students to carry around. Plus the convenience of having all information together in one source.

As for as the trees that paper is made from, newsprint is made from pine trees which are farmed in the southern USA. A very renewable resource that supplies jobs to a large portion of the economy. As soon as one crop is cut down, another is planted. Without the need for pine products the trees would be eliminated and another agricultural product grown in its place. The refuse from the pine trees is used to make biofuel. Most paper for books, stationary and other better paper products is not made from trees but cotton and other agricultural products. What really endangers trees here (which are usually more than plentiful here) is development, clear cutting to build big box stores & parking lots and more urban sprawl.

I am all for conserving as many trees as possible, especially the forests. Thanks to President Theodore Roosevelt and the National Park Service, along with much better agricultural policies, there is much more forested land in the USA than there was in the late 1800s and early 1900s (when deforestation was at its peak.)

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Makavelli
Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:35:53 AM

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I do agree that textbooks would be obsolete in the near future because electronic reader devices such as a Kindle, iPad, and Nook are replacing books. However, there is nothing like the feel and smell of a real book. Too bad, future generations will not experience holding a natural book in their hands.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:54:12 AM

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There's a school on the Gulf coast here that's going book-less. What a shame. Then again I've seen young ones with a backpack stuffed with books that's almost more heavy than the child hauling it.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:16:51 AM

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Being in and out of airports quite frequently I can say as much as I love a book, an e-reader (tablet) is really the way to go! I have enough stuff piled in my briefcase, I really don't have much room for a book on top of it.

Nicola mentioned a great point, can you imagine just how many trees can be saved worldwide if schools move to digital textbooks? Never mind the cost of replacing the old worn out books as well.

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littlemissbitch
Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:38:38 AM

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i could never get my kid to read...he likes stories and is super smart but didnt like how the pages "felt" i got him a kindle and now he reads all the time. i too prefer a book over "e reading" but if it makes him read more then so be it. that and he doesnt have to haul it all around.

but encyclopedia britannica not printing....thats just, WOW.

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Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:34:50 PM

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I´m sure gonna miss the smell of a paperback... you know when you open the book and stick you face in between the pages, take a big wiff.... what? Am I the only one that did that?

The smell of textbooks not so much, they used to make me a little dizzy. But then again I think that was a reaction to studying overall.

To resume my rambling... I think its a great move. Im all for the digital age.



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Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:40:39 PM

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As long as it promotes reading, I'm for it. For those that prefer the hardback, start saving 'em now. I love saving old books from the pyre. Some day, we can get together and make our own library. Seems people do like things that are retro.
nicola
Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:22:34 PM

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Encyclopedia Britannica are making a big online push, trying to rival Wikipedia from what I gather. It makes business sense, they'll go bust otherwise!

http://www.britannica.com/blogs/2012/03/change/

I didn't realise they'd been going since 1768. Wow!
littlemissbitch
Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:44:38 PM

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nicola wrote:
I didn't realise they'd been going since 1768. Wow!


and now we're gonna lose them because of technology. thats very .... sad, i think.

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Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:07:12 PM

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chefkathleen wrote:
Then again I've seen young ones with a backpack stuffed with books that's almost more heavy than the child hauling it.


I Agree, when I was in school I hated carrying the textbooks. My back would be so sore! I always wished I had a shrinking device to make them smaller, then larger when I needed them lol.

I love the feel of a book, books have many answers that the Internet does not. As for making everything Digital, not everyone can afford tablets, iPods or laptops. I guess if the student needs to take their digital booklet home they'll need to barrow one from the school. Or have a friend who has one. I just think Books are easier on the eyes, looking at a LED screen too long makes my eyes water. I'm already going blind as it is!
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Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:20:50 PM

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While I like the feel of a real book, when it comes to text-books this is definitely the way to go.

Textbooks are heavy to carry, they cost a fortune, and many of them have new editions put out every other year or two, so they are basically useless in terms of resale value unless you do it *right after* the semester is over.

I paid hundreds of dollars per semester on new textbooks, then started buying used ones, but if I didn't sell them within the year, a lot of them were already outdated/wrong edition.

And as someone already said - it saves so many trees.

Digital is definitely the way to go. If you can afford university, you can afford a laptop. In fact, it's pretty mandatory these days.




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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:38:43 AM

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Posted: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:19:54 AM

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nicola wrote:
Encyclopedia Britannica are making a big online push, trying to rival Wikipedia from what I gather. It makes business sense, they'll go bust otherwise!

http://www.britannica.com/blogs/2012/03/change/

I didn't realise they'd been going since 1768. Wow!

I actually have a copy of the first edition (well, a replica anyway). They brought them out to celebrate their 200th anniversary.

As to electronic textbooks, I think they have their limitations; as kmsn3000 pointed out, you can drop a book.

I expect the publishing companies will charge just as much for textbooks whether they are paper or electronic - they know students have to have them.

NO trees will be "saved" by this change. I agree that less trees will be NEEDED, but that just means that less trees will be grown. If the owners of tree plantations can't sell the trees to the paper makers, they will grow something they can sell to someone else; the idyllic mind-picture of romantic forests growing peacefully is just hogwash. As evidence of that, there were large carefully tended forests of oak trees in the UK in the Middle Ages because the wood was needed for ship building. Now we make ships of steel, so very few oak trees are growing there in the 21st century.


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nicola
Posted: Sunday, March 18, 2012 7:52:19 PM

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Thanks Forestry Commission Fred!
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Posted: Monday, March 19, 2012 12:22:02 AM

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I will start off by saying I'm biased in that I work at a used book store, so I don't like e-readers for that reason. With all the newer bookstores going out of business recently we've already seen a decline in the number of new novels customers are bringing into the store. At least our histories are still as abundant as ever!

But I also love the feel of an actual book in my hand, and yes I'm also one of those that enjoys the smell of a new book. And I don't like how so many people are moving to digital books. I like knowing there are physical copies of things proliferated throughout the world.

Textbooks and Encyclopedias really are the only books I can think of more or less made to have digital forms as they're being constantly updated with new information as time goes by and we learn more about our world in general. But novels especially I think are meant to be enjoyed in paper form.

I fear a day may come when I'm old and gray and physical hard and paperback books will be so uncommon I'll have to buy a e-reader just to read new titles :(
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Posted: Monday, March 19, 2012 5:57:28 PM

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Dancing_Doll wrote:
While I like the feel of a real book, when it comes to text-books this is definitely the way to go.

Textbooks are heavy to carry, they cost a fortune, and many of them have new editions put out every other year or two, so they are basically useless in terms of resale value unless you do it *right after* the semester is over.

I paid hundreds of dollars per semester on new textbooks, then started buying used ones, but if I didn't sell them within the year, a lot of them were already outdated/wrong edition.

And as someone already said - it saves so many trees.

Digital is definitely the way to go. If you can afford university, you can afford a laptop. In fact, it's pretty mandatory these days.



I have never disclosed what I do for a living here on Lush, but I am going to for this thread. But first, I want to say I am quoting Dancing_Doll here on purpose. You'll see in a minute.

I am a bookstore manager for a major university where I live. The past few years, the digital age has affected the sales of textbooks in the bookstore that I manage. We have seen so many students either purchasing ebooks for their Kindles or Nook because of the expensive prices of textbooks. Not only has the digital age affected sales, but students are looking more to renting and purchasing online because they can find them cheaper. As much as I hate to say this because it hurts my livelihood, I cannot blame them.

Students come to the bookstore and inquire about their textbooks and when they find out the price, they often get really upset and blame the bookstore. They fail to realize that it is not the bookstore's fault. Well in some ways it is, but in most ways it isn't. Some think that we inflate the prices. It's not the bookstore. It's the publishers and the many I deal with on a semester basis. I cannot always order books from a used textbook company, which will save the students money. Sometimes I have to order them from a new textbook company or the publisher. That's where the price is inflated. Due to their prices and the cost of supply and demand, textbooks can be outrageous! Trust me, I know. I am 100% positive.

And as Dancing_Doll has stated, editions have changed drastically over the years. In the past five years, I cannot even count how many disciplines have gone to new editions either after having had one out the year before or two years before. It used to be that editions would change every three years. That is not the case now. Many of them are changing editions every year, and maybe, if one is lucky, every two years. This is because there is a decline in there sales and it's a way to make money for them.

Since the decline of textbooks sales, the bookstore is no longer a "true bookstore." We have had to find other ways and means to make a profit. Therefore, we expanded our merchandise base to fit students needs. We have always sold the essentials like pens, paper, pencils and computer related products, but now we expanded to be a coffee shop, a snack vendor, and an outlet for students to purchase the university mascot items.

We may still be a bookstore, but in the true sense of the word, we are not. If we had not expanded our seller base, I am almost certain that I would not have a job now.



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nicola
Posted: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:10:04 PM

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Great post SD, thank you.
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