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lusciouspeaches
Posted: Friday, April 20, 2012 12:26:11 AM

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Hey all, I'm new to writing erotica, and I see a lot of threads/posts providing solid content about how to write erotica, but I would absolutely love to read somebody's tips or a guide (especially) about the essentials of how to not write erotica. The Do Nots, so to speak.

If there is already a thread/post about this, please be kind enough to redirect me to it.

As you can see, I'm a new member here at Lush; the more writers that I can converse with and learn from, the better!

Thanks. <3
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Posted: Friday, April 20, 2012 2:44:18 AM

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DO NOT;
Write rape scenes
Write a story which has no build-up
Make the characters perfect sexual beings

lusciouspeaches
Posted: Friday, April 20, 2012 3:19:40 AM

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Thanks for replying, Scott.

Keep them coming.
CertifiedHeat
Posted: Friday, April 20, 2012 3:34:41 AM

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Don't describe characters with numbers (height and weight). Somebody wrote that on here recently, and it made a lot of sense. One member posted that it's tantamount to police blotter!

Don't rush. This is a given, but the most revered stories are written by patient writers that treat their stories as sacred pieces of literature. While I'm a hypocrite because I'm rather irresponsible and lazy at times when it comes to proofreading, the best gift that a writer can give his/her readers -- asides from a deep, hot, passionate story -- is a complete story with perfect (at the very least damn near perfect) grammar. The best gift (or, rather, a compliment) a reader can give the writer is their attention and time spent reading the writer's work.

Sex is a part of the story as a whole, but it shouldn't be the only makeup of the story, because the actual sex being written about can get a little, I don't know, tiresome to read after a while. A blowjob here, a bit of pussylicking there, penetration, cumshot. . . OK? The thing is, the story can and will add a deeper, hotter element to the sex scenes a writer paints.

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Dancing_Doll
Posted: Friday, April 20, 2012 5:02:26 AM

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This might just be my preference, but don't veer towards the outlandish because you think it will make the story hotter or more exciting.
eg. don't write about going to your corporate summer picnic and then spontaneously fucking your entire family on a gingham blanket in front of your boss and coworkers while they cheer you on and then having him slap you on the back at the end of it saying 'you 'ole dog, you!' and giving you a hearty raise for being such an insatiable pervert.

Try to make the story at least be *somewhat* realistic, and keep the surprise-points to something that you can manageably sell as a writer and make the reader believe in.

Also - beware of adding too many sex partners in a single scene. Gangbangs and orgies may be hot, but you definitely need skill when writing about these because multiple sex partners can easily end up becoming a confusing disarray of dick/pussy and flailing body limbs. You need "control" as a writer in order to paint the picture effectively, so don't bite off more than you can chew because you think it will make the story more exciting to include more people into the sex scenes.


naughtiestmommy
Posted: Friday, April 20, 2012 6:07:35 AM

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This is an awesome question. I definitely agree with DD and scott, make your story realistic and don't make your characters perfect (although, if you don't see anything wrong with a character and idealize them, you want to do that from a first-person perspective, because it speaks to the psychosexual nature of the writer, rather than being expressed as factual information).

Well-developed characters have "ticks", or characteristics unique to them, and leave readers with a sense of camaraderie and relation. "Word painting" is great when used to assist the reader in visualizing the scenario, but it's easy to overdo it and end up confusing your reader.

Some writers write as they speak. Unless it is meant to be a quirky first-person narration (think: Catcher in the Rye), DON'T DO IT. If I'm reading "seen" when it should be "saw" and every verb is preceded by "had" (had become, had wanted, had zipped), I can't take that story seriously, and I'll stop reading it.

The final one (and we all are guilty of having a typo our two) is: don't trust Word to find, or even correct, all your grammar and spelling mistakes. Overall, if you want to be taken seriously as a writer, you need to know how to spell and form a sentence. However, sometimes truly proper grammar detracts from the feel and flow of the story i.e.: "a man I was sorry to be with", while grammatically incorrect, flows better than, "a man with whom being made me feel sorrowful."

We also tend to rely on Word to automatically adjust our sentences when we quickly change wording. Hence, lots of small words like "the", "she","it" are either incorrectly left in or out, rendering our sentences flawed. Slowly reading your story out loud can help in identifying most wording errors in general, and especially in cases such as this.

(As an aside, I wrote this on my android and had to edit this post three times because I found either wording that was confusing or that my phone incorrectly auto-predicted. Everyone needs to proof-read. Always.)

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Guest
Posted: Friday, April 20, 2012 10:46:15 AM

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Do not have unrealistic cardboard-cutout, stereotype characters doing cliched stereotype things.
Do not have all women sporting 38 DD breasts and all men have 9" cocks or larger
While you may have "lust at first sight" situations, do not have characters who just say "Hi", peel off their clothes and start fucking
Do not have sex scenes that are mostly filled with characters going "Ohhhh!" "Ahhhh" "I'm cumming!"
Do not have all sex scenes in the bedroom
Do not have virgin characters who suddenly become experts at every sexual activity


Graham_X
Posted: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:53:08 PM

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Don't write a story as a huge great block of text without any breaks. Use paragraphs!

Occasionally I come across stories on other sites that are like this:

Quote:
There was a knock on the door and when I answered it I saw it was Kelly the girl from next door. She was crying so I said, "Are you all right" and she said, "No, my boyfriend has broken up with me." I knew her boyfriend, ex-boyfriend now I guess, was a jerk so I gave her a sympathetic hug and invited her in for a drink. I made her a coffee and as we sat chatting she suddenly said, "Listen I don't want to be on my own tonight, is it okay if I stay with you?" I was surprised but quickly agreed, "Yeah sure." We went up to my bedroom and quickly undressed before slipping between the sheets. "Just hold me." She said and turned her back on me. I slipped one arm under her head and wrapped my other arm around her, my hand grazing her breast as I pulled her in tight. After a few moments I became aware that the feel of her body next to mine was arousing me and my cock gave a twitch. Kelly must have felt it too as she giggled and pushed her buttocks into my groin. Experimentally I ran a hand over her breast, feeling her nipple harden under my touch and she gave a little sigh. "Do you want to fuck me?" she asked. "I don't know," I replied. "Do you think anyone is still reading this by now?" She looked thoughtful, "I doubt it. Why?" "Well, to be honest, and you're a really nice girl and everything, but the author is always writing me into these situations where I end up in bed having to shag all these women. It's a bit tiresome really." She went very still and I started to worry that I had offended her, then she said, "I know what you mean. It's the same with me. I always seem to end up in stories where I take dick in every hole, sometimes repeatedly, for hours on end. Sometimes it would be nice to grab a nice cup of hot chocolate and curl up with a good book. I mean I never wanted to be a character in an erotic story, I always wanted to be in a romance. Don't get me wrong I like sex, it's just I feel there is so much more to me as a fictional character than bonking constantly." I nodded understandingly. "Tell you what, I think even the writer must be fed up by now and anyway, how's he going to proof read all this, it's virtually incomprehensible. Why don't we grab an early night: I doubt he or any of his readers will notice." She gave me a sweet smile and agreed enthusiastically, so I turned the light off and seconds later we were both soundly asleep.


If you did manage to read all that well done, but it becomes a chore rather than a pleasure. No matter how good the sex, if the layout is bad then people aren't going to bother reading it.

Especially make sure that each character who is speaking gets a paragraph to themselves, even if all they are going to say is "Huh?" otherwise it can be difficult to figure out who's doing the talking.


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Magical_felix
Posted: Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:18:43 PM

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Do not write anything besides what you really enjoy reading or writing. Don't write for any other reason besides what you think will be the best thing you can write at the moment. Even if you do just want feedback, or it gets you off to have other people read dirty stuff, or whatever real reason you write. When you actually sit to write don't get distracted by what you feel your readers are going to think or want to read so that your story flows out of you unfiltered almost. Don't forget to give your characters a little bit of personality too, even if it's one demential. Any personality is better than nothing.



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Posted: Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:28:39 PM

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Try not to be too repetitive, using the exact same words over and over is tiring to the reader and ultimately cause them to start to skim read...

Be careful of your tenses, don't start in the past tense and then slip into the present, I know that makes me think that the writer just isn't paying attention.

When you're writing the saucy bits, it's easy to get excited and make mistakes. Take your time!!

Also, once you've finished your story, leave it for a while, come back to it and read it with "fresh" eyes, better still, have a trusted friend read it over for you. It's so easy to miss basic errors.

Above all, write for yourself, enjoy it and learn from constructive criticism...
DirtyMartini
Posted: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:20:10 PM

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Dancing_Doll wrote:

eg. don't write about going to your corporate summer picnic and then spontaneously fucking your entire family on a gingham blanket in front of your boss and coworkers while they cheer you on and then having him slap you on the back at the end of it saying 'you 'ole dog, you!' and giving you a hearty raise for being such an insatiable pervert.



Damn...I kinda like that one...mind if I use it? Might end up being my most viewed story...

As far as things not to do...I know its been mentioned before, but avoid second person...just sayin'


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Guest
Posted: Sunday, April 29, 2012 4:02:43 AM

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You'll find a wealth of knowledge here: http://www.lushstories.com/forum/yaf_forum3_Erotic-Stories-Writing-and-Reading-Forum.aspx Morgan Hawke's writing tips and advice. Good luck with your writing!
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Posted: Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:04:21 AM

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Just two additions to this excellent series of advice replies:

Names: Do not have names which are too close for comfort (e.g Allison, Angela, and Andrea). Remember that you know all these people very well; they have been in your mind for months, or even years. The reader is meeting them for the first (and sometimes only) time. I make it a rule, whenever I can, to keep names as separate as they can be, preferably only one name with each initial letter (only one Axxx, one Bxxx, etc.) Also I would never use a name which can be confused with a status or position, for example, in a mediaeval romance I would never have a Mr. Lord, nor would I ever have a cleric whose title is Reverend and whose surname is Bishop, in the military I would not have a Lieutenant Driver. I have collected lists from Internet “baby names” sites and before I start a book I make a list of names for characters in the book, many of which have no assigned character at that stage. After I finish a book I usually have a lot of names left over, but that doesn’t matter – there will always be more needed in the next book.

Crowds: Perhaps allied to the last comment, do not have too many main characters in your story. Readers find it difficult on first reading to distinguish who is what if there are more than about five main characters in a story. If a reader starts to feel confused as the story progresses it is likely that (s)he will just hit the [BACK] button, and possibly remember your name and not start your next story.

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Graham_X
Posted: Sunday, April 29, 2012 9:37:12 AM

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Wildcat wrote:
You'll find a wealth of knowledge here: http://www.lushstories.com/forum/yaf_forum3_Erotic-Stories-Writing-and-Reading-Forum.aspx Morgan Hawke's writing tips and advice. Good luck with your writing!


Morgan also has a website which is well worth visiting as there are tips for writers (look at the menu on the right). I quite often browse her site although it is more to do with procrastination. Nevertheless, I usually come up with some nugget of information to take away.

Just put a new story up called Venus: My Mistress In Leather and Lace. It seems a long time since I have written any prose, been seduced by prosody. Anyway, please feel free to check it out - Thank you xxx
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Posted: Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:03:13 PM

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Do not try to write about any activity, occupation, hobby or sport you do not know about. Unless you have some experience with say, scuba diving (if that is integral aspect of your story) research it...inside and out, until you're comfortable talking/writing about it.

It could be as sublime as mixing a White Russian cocktail, describing a dog fight, or the giving a teasing blow job.

I once read a story about a young man who was driving 220 km/h down an autobahn, receiving the blowjob of his life, then switching up, while on cruise control to enjoy some rough doggy position fornication. If you do plan to write about such things, please put choose the fantasy category and choose your tag words appropriately. drunken

Do not assume your audience will be able to decipher all the slang vocabulary you may choose to utilize. The Lush audience is global. Paint your portrait and lead us morons into your story so we may enjoy the journey.

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naughtiestmommy
Posted: Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:12:40 AM

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DirtyMartini wrote:


As far as things not to do...I know its been mentioned before, but avoid second person...just sayin'


BUMP to this. DO NOT EVER WRITE A STORY WITH A SECOND PERSON PRESENCE. It sounds really stupid.

"I took off your clothes and you were really wet...."

THAT crap is for cyber sex, not storytelling.

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Guest
Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:25:16 AM

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DO NOT leave out the juicy details because it is what make your story delicious! Use your five senses!
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:41:24 AM

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naughtiestmommy wrote:
BUMP to this. DO NOT EVER WRITE A STORY WITH A SECOND PERSON PRESENCE. It sounds really stupid.

"I took off your clothes and you were really wet...."

THAT crap is for cyber sex, not storytelling.


That's still first person, surely. The writing is directed at the reader but it's still from the point of view of the narrator. Second person is when the author writes from the point of view of the reader.

"You walk down the hallway warily, hearing every creak of every floorboard. Turning the corner, you think you see a shadow flit before you but you can't be sure. You start to regret spending the night by yourself in this dilapidated, old house."

In either case, it takes a lot of skill to write a story like this well.

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Posted: Monday, June 11, 2012 1:15:08 AM

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clum wrote:


That's still first person, surely. The writing is directed at the reader but it's still from the point of view of the narrator. Second person is when the author writes from the point of view of the reader.

"You walk down the hallway warily, hearing every creak of every floorboard. Turning the corner, you think you see a shadow flit before you but you can't be sure. You start to regret spending the night by yourself in this dilapidated, old house."

In either case, it takes a lot of skill to write a story like this well.


That being said, I have read some impressive stories written in the 2nd person. Just not many & never from first time writers!

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Posted: Monday, June 11, 2012 1:32:51 AM

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Make your characters as real as possible. Let the reader know how they feel, what they like or don't like. Evolve them as emotional beings the the reader can connect with.

Don't be mechanical. Erotica isn't clinical, it's fantasy. Use language to envelope the reader in the mood of the work. If they are cold, tells us how the cold feels. If they are hot, tell them how that feels.
If you can describe a small drop of moisture as it runs into a womens cleavage or the feel of a mans heartbeat as she touches his chest, then you may be able to write erotica.

It's been said already but don't try to describe the perfect body and don't use numerical measurments. Be as general as possible while giving the reader a template for their imagination to fill in. Hair color, eye color are fine but leave as much as possible as inferred. The reader will fill in the blanks with their own vision of beauty.

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Posted: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:55:34 AM

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A lot of good tips in this post :)

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Posted: Monday, June 11, 2012 6:23:48 AM

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Writing is writing. The 'rules' are the same no matter the genre. Stephen King's "On Writing" is a thoughtful, readable account of both his writing life (and damn near death) and what he considers the essentials for writing. Highly recommended

When if comes to writing sex scenes:
1. Do NOT give calibrated body measurements -- ever.
2. Don't begin the story with any sort of body description -- it's trite and dull.
3. Do NOT use long, exaggerated moans and groans: "Ooooooh, ahhhhhhhhhh, yesssssssssss," etc..
4. Do NOT overuse exclamation marks/points. Try to let your words tell the story, not punctuation marks.
5. As others have mentioned, avoid super-sized body parts unless your going for a humorous touch. For instance, a Lush writer named 'SizeQueen' has some fun spoofswith protags who'd make Dolly Parton seem flat-chested in comparison.

Good luck with the writing.

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Posted: Sunday, September 09, 2012 1:06:35 PM

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Had to share this someplace...



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Do NOT forget to spell-check and painstakingly proofread your story -- or have someone else do so.
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