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LoneRanger
Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2012 1:41:27 PM

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Now that the Javan, Sumatran and Indian rhinos are pretty much non-existant, the two African species are being targeted. South Africa is losing a rhino a day. Despite long jail terms and a shoot to kill poachers policy, the losses continue. Any ideas?
Dancing_Doll
Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2012 2:50:41 PM

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Yes, work on education and dispelling ridiculous belief systems and superstitions in asian medicine that ground-up rhino horn is of any medicinal or health value.

Supply and demand.

The more that market thinks that rhino horn, tiger penis and bear gall bladders are cornerstones of traditional/ancient medicine, the more the poachers are willing to go the extra mile for a great black-market payday.

A growing population relying on body parts from nearly extinct species = major $$. They're probably willing to dodge a few bullets for up to €200,000 euros per kill (which is the current market value for a rhino horn).


LoneRanger
Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2012 3:51:58 PM

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Thank you for the suggestions, the trouble is we dont have time to educate such a mass of people. At the present rate, rhinos have 5 years, tigers less than a year.
Guest
Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:53:40 PM

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Stop idiotic ideas as to their horns sexual potency, and give cause to something that's real.

Cultural stupidities are slow to change, as are other ridiculous beliefs.

So, bye, bye Rhino. At least man is well served.
Magical_felix
Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2012 10:23:17 PM

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You can start a grass roots movement to promote the healing powers and also the dick hardening properties of rat tails. Make some fake as medical book supposedly written in china 3000 years ago when the rat population was thought to be extinct so they moved to collecting tiger labias or whatever. Have Byonce, Jackie Chan and Justin Bieber film spots reading the book and giving rat tails all the credit for their success. You can have a scientist and some freaky deaky medicine man also agreeing that rat tails are coming back and cured a whole village of leprosy, leprosy caused by rhino horns. Hearts and minds.

And if the people don't buy the rat tail angle you can use conservatives or something. Something else that can be dwindled while the rhinos make a come back.



ArtMan
Posted: Saturday, June 02, 2012 10:28:11 PM

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Convince someone to start a rhino preserve in the USA, Australia or some other nation with open space that is capable of protecting them and ship over a few dozen of them. The African nation's where rhinos are native just do not have the resources at this time to adequately protect them.

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Guest
Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:04:24 AM

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Here you go ArtMan.
Taronga Western Plains Zoo imported six Black Rhinos from Zimbabwe in 1994 for a zoo-based breeding program, as part of an initiative by the International Rhino Foundation. Since that time Taronga Western Plains Zoo has bred 11 Black Rhinos. In 2010 the first second-generation calf, descended from the zoo-bred rhinos, was born.

At Perth Zoo: Perth Zoo is part of an Australasian Breeding Program attempting to increase rhinoceros numbers and has successfully bred two calves – a male and a female. You can see our two Southern White Rhinoceros in the African Savannah.

AUSTRALIA ZOO HAS A BIG BABY ON THE WAY!
May 2012
Australia Zoo has a big baby on the way!
15 May 2011
Wooo-hoo! The Zoo Crew has some wonderful news to share with the world, are you ready? Australia Zoo is set to welcome a big baby into the world, a baby rhino that is!

Inyeti, one of our gorgeous 2000kg rhinos is expecting her first calf to first-time dad, DJ.

Inyeti's has hit Australia Zoo with the most exciting news of the year and the next 16 months is certainly going to be a long wait for her excited keepers.
Ruthie
Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:47:16 PM

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Magical_felix wrote:
You can start a grass roots movement to promote the healing powers and also the dick hardening properties of rat tails. Make some fake as medical book supposedly written in china 3000 years ago when the rat population was thought to be extinct so they moved to collecting tiger labias or whatever. Have Byonce, Jackie Chan and Justin Bieber film spots reading the book and giving rat tails all the credit for their success. You can have a scientist and some freaky deaky medicine man also agreeing that rat tails are coming back and cured a whole village of leprosy, leprosy caused by rhino horns. Hearts and minds.

And if the people don't buy the rat tail angle you can use conservatives or something. Something else that can be dwindled while the rhinos make a come back.


I like this idea. It should be some vital rat organ though, like the heart or liver, otherwise we'll just have a bunch of tailless rats running around.
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:56:50 PM

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what are they going to do when there are no more Rhinos left to kill, mutilate, and use? they better get used to the idea that even if poaching isn't stopped, soon they will be unable to use Rhino bits. personally, i think we should cut the poachers pricks off, grind them into powder, and feed them to the Tigers.

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Ruthie
Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 2:17:02 PM

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Maybe we should make Viagra more available. You'd think that would have put the Rhino horn people out of business already.
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:26:11 PM

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Guest
Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:15:20 PM

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I feel kinda ignorant now because I didnt know that rhinos were going extinct. Maybe talking to the people who protect polar bears?
Guest
Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 10:36:41 PM

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Unfortunately i don't see a way for it to happen, even if they were transported out of country to a place where there is resources to protect them better. That could ultimately make them much more of a target. Sure Poachers are mostly local, but then you would probably find someone willing to take the risk to get one in the U.S. or Australia simply because of the fact they could charge whatever price they wanted for it.
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:11:55 PM

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Australia, because of it's relative isolation, has possibly the strictest quarantine laws on the planet. It took years of planning and negotiation to get the various breeding programs here up and running. I can't see a black market trade in Rhinos opening up any time soon.

We're continually fighting a battle with wildlife smugglers. Some slips through the net, sure, unfortunately the majority of smuggling attempts end with the wildlife dead, either through suffocation or starvation.
LoneRanger
Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:23:38 PM

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Thank you for the interest. Just want to rectify some of the common misconceptions. It is only in some parts of India, Nepal and the Vietnams that the horn is believed to be an aphrodisiac. The rest of the east use it to cure fevers. The major market is the Yemen as dagger handles. Placing rhino in other countries has been done, they get poached there too. Even horns in museums in Europe are being targeted. Removing horns, impregnating them with toxins, 24 hour armed guards, shooting perpetrators, and other methods being used with little success. How do you educate half the global population away from a traditional belief when they havent even succeded to educate them to read or write? The war continues...
Ruthie
Posted: Monday, June 04, 2012 12:26:07 AM

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LoneRanger wrote:
Thank you for the interest. Just want to rectify some of the common misconceptions. It is only in some parts of India, Nepal and the Vietnams that the horn is believed to be an aphrodisiac. The rest of the east use it to cure fevers. The major market is the Yemen as dagger handles. Placing rhino in other countries has been done, they get poached there too. Even horns in museums in Europe are being targeted. Removing horns, impregnating them with toxins, 24 hour armed guards, shooting perpetrators, and other methods being used with little success. How do you educate half the global population away from a traditional belief when they havent even succeded to educate them to read or write? The war continues...


There are proven medications for fever. Dagger handles can be made out of other material. There is no necessary use for Rhino horn. It's use is based on old wives tales and superstitions.

Maybe there should be harsher laws for people in possession of articles made from Rhino horn. As long as it's profitable, poaching will continue. If owning a dagger made of Rhino horn carried a hefty penalty maybe the market for it would collapse and there'd be no profit in poaching.
Dirty_D
Posted: Monday, June 04, 2012 12:38:35 AM

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I know this will sound weird to some, but actually hunting preserves help to propagate many animals. The $ that is brought in and paid by hunters(lots and lots of $) The animals that are culled are selected for the purpose and are not just a random animal, this can help with the supply end of it. Changing demand? That's a whole different aspect.

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Posted: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:27:27 AM

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naughtynurse wrote:
I know this will sound weird to some, but actually hunting preserves help to propagate many animals. The $ that is brought in and paid by hunters(lots and lots of $) The animals that are culled are selected for the purpose and are not just a random animal, this can help with the supply end of it. Changing demand? That's a whole different aspect.


You really very true.
Hunting and fear of extinction does prop up more.
But we do need to make environment friendly for their breeding.
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Posted: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:38:58 PM

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naughtynurse wrote:
I know this will sound weird to some, but actually hunting preserves help to propagate many animals. The $ that is brought in and paid by hunters(lots and lots of $) The animals that are culled are selected for the purpose and are not just a random animal, this can help with the supply end of it. Changing demand? That's a whole different aspect.


Its not weird to me, living in an active hunting state, I'm all too familiar with the concept of culling the weak and sick (natural predators), and population control (doe only hunts etc.). Bgut what is going on here is not regulated hunting. It's indiscriminate killing. The rhino are targeted for the horn no matter what condition they are in. you need to have a healthy population first for something like a hunting sanctuary to work, in many cases its a fantastic solution but not for thins in my opinion
Selynar
Posted: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:10:26 PM

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Dancing_Doll wrote:
Yes, work on education and dispelling ridiculous belief systems and superstitions in asian medicine that ground-up rhino horn is of any medicinal or health value.


There was an article in this in National Geographic a few issues ago, so I'm a bit foggy on the details, but there was some pretty hard case arguements that ground-up rhino horn actually works.


Despite that... we need to institute a new form of punishment. You poach a rhino and get caught... We sit you down on another ones horn. *grins* That should prevent some people. ;)
Kc69
Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:55:24 AM

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Living in a country where Rhinos are mutilated for the bizarre function of an afrodisaic by an eastern country leaves me nausiated!!!!!
There is no plausable reason for targeting these amazing creatures. The populace, that regards them as an afrodisiac, should be educated otherwise ...perhaps a pipe-dream!
Punishment should be far more severe to discourage the inhuman abuse of our heritage. - Just go and take a look at the stats.
In this year alone we are at 227 .....and we are mid-year!!!!!!!
What is it going to amount to?????????????????
Buz
Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:59:29 AM

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Hunt the poachers! Then start skinning poachers alive and roast their scummy ass over a fire. Maybe that will deter the bastards!



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