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nicola
Posted: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:10:15 PM

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Chickens are fattened using cages that reduce their ability to move around. This leads to increased levels of bacteria in the cages and thus, anti-biotics are used in the chicken feed to reduce infections and disease.The chickens are overfed and then slaughtered after reaching a certain ideal weight level. The chicken meat itself is injected with a saline solution (salt and water) to increase its mass and to give it a more pleasing look in the stores.


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pb69
Posted: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:20:07 PM

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You forgot to mention that organic, free range chicken (and the eggs they lay) taste better.
sprite
Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 1:31:49 AM

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you know that chickens are omnivores too, right? they'll eat meat. dead chicken parts are part of their diet. also, chicken waste is a huge issues, so they found that they can mix it with grains and feed it to cows, high source of protein. Also, dead cow parts are fed to chickens. the cycle of chicken waste to cows, cow parts to chicken, is one of the ways mad cow disease is spread. just tying to enlighten y'all. :)

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Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 1:49:25 AM

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I think if you take the feathers off, and deep fry the chicken, that should kill off all the bacteria...also, drinking liberal amounts of alcohol along with it helps as well, since it's a known fact that alcohol kills bacteria...

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pb69
Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 2:27:04 AM

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sprite wrote:
you know that chickens are omnivores too, right? they'll eat meat. dead chicken parts are part of their diet. also, chicken waste is a huge issues, so they found that they can mix it with grains and feed it to cows, high source of protein. Also, dead cow parts are fed to chickens. the cycle of chicken waste to cows, cow parts to chicken, is one of the ways mad cow disease is spread. just tying to enlighten y'all. :)


I don't think you're going to change my mind, sprite. Sorry. I'm quite comfortable in my role as an omnivore (yes, I eat vegetables, too). As for transmissible spongiform encephalopathy, I'm probably more likely to contract worse diseases.

Just sayin'... My 2 cents
Buz
Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:18:36 AM

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More poultry is produced in north Georgia than anywhere else in the world. That industry employs huge numbers of people here. The rendering plants are really stinky. You often pass these huge poultry farms with a dozen or more enormous chicken houses. I have shoveled chicken shit 2 feet deep out of chicken houses when I was a teen. Not a fun weekend or summer job. The chickens are pumped full of anti-biotics. They live by the thousands in huge breeder houses (that doesn't bother me, the houses are heated & air conditioned.) At least they don't keep the chickens in cages here, except to temporarily take them to the rendering plants. There is good and bad to them being full of anti-biotics. At least the chicken meat will not contain disease but how do all of those anti-biotics effect people who eat that meat? I still eat it.

The vegetables you buy in the grocery store are genetically altered, spayed with insecticides, and fertilized with nitrogen. Corn fertilizer and insecticide in the American mid-west in the Mississippi Valley is so bad that it does much more damage polluting the Gulf of Mexico than the BP oil spill did. Furthermore all kinds of preservative addatives are added to vegetables in canning, before freezing, etc.

As for as organic vegetables. How do you know they are truly organic unless you either grew them yourself or knew who did? Secondly, organic vegetables contain much more bacteria on their surface than mass grown treated vegetables.

One major problem with organic vegetables is that they cannot be grown in sufficient quantity to feed the masses.

If you eat organic vegetables please take much more care to wash them thoroughly. (I also eat organic vegetables as much as possible)

I do love to visit my granddad at his farm. He loads me up on vegetables and fruit that he grows himself. He does raise free-range chickens and cows. But they are more like pets. Occasionally he'll fry up a chicken but he wouldn't part with one of those cows for anything. He rents out his bull for breeding. Lucky bull.

Dirty_D
Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:01:47 AM

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sprite wrote:
you know that chickens are omnivores too, right? they'll eat meat. dead chicken parts are part of their diet. also, chicken waste is a huge issues, so they found that they can mix it with grains and feed it to cows, high source of protein. Also, dead cow parts are fed to chickens. the cycle of chicken waste to cows, cow parts to chicken, is one of the ways mad cow disease is spread. just tying to enlighten y'all. :)


Yes, chickens are dirty birds. Cannibalism is a significant issue. When chickens are kept in close quarters they will attack kill and eat each other.

My brother works with many large chicken farms(egg producers) as he transports the major money maker for these farms: the manure. The farms that he hauls for include caged and free range. Those farms make approximately $1 per bird over the life of the bird from the eggs. The manure from eggs is the real money maker. It is one of the best fertilizers for the fields(producing grains for vegetarians and meat eaters alike). Additionally, this farm utilizes a digester to turn the methane from manure to methane, creating 1.8 megawatts.

The free range birds might be out of a cage, and the doors might be open, but they don't go outside and peck around like a household bird might. These are birds that are bred for generations and generations of very selective breeding. They sit and eat and sit and eat. They are the chicken equivalent to the video game/McDonald eating kid.

Chickens, btw, make excellent pets. They are an effective and pesticide free method of insect control.

WellMadeMale
Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:55:25 AM

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Meet Your Meat - Youtube it (Alec Baldwin narrating). You'll watch that (however long you can stomach to) and go Vegan for a few months, or alter your shopping habits immensely.

Distressed meat is so....... tender and tasty (thanks to those chemicals and genes it is doctored with these days).

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Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:34:52 AM

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Also with the exception of when the chickens are being feed, they are kept in dark barns. If a bird is put in a dark place it will sit. Therefore under-developing the legs while making their breast bigger. The request is higher because breasts is an "healthy choice".

Any animal stressed will have high levels of the hormone cortisol, which it will linger in the flesh. No matter how you cook it.

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Buz
Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 1:21:35 PM

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Mass amounts amounts of chicken manure (shit) spread as fertilizer on vegetable fields, hay fields, and yards not only stinks really bad, but is a major pollutant. It washes off into creeks and rivers when it rains and eventually into the ocean. Plus it seeps down into the water table. So can you imagine how much chicken shit you consume in your water and fish.

ginger86
Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:41:14 PM

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i may be in a minority here but to be honest i never asked the chicken i'm getting ready to eat where it was born. i did, at one time, raise chicken for the eggs, but when i saw that when one chicken crapped, the other rushed over to peck at that waste, i realized i'd seen more than i want to know, so now buy my eggs and chickens from a store. i understand that animals are mistreated and that is bad but i also understand that as the population on earth increases there is less area to raise the hamburger, steaks, and chicken we so desire. I know that you vegans and such are ready to shoot me but i was raised eating meat, as was most most animals. most of the vegans in history are now extinct

pb69
Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:09:50 PM

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A large part of my large extended family are ranchers in the southwest United States. When I was a teen, I lived in an area of Texas known for its stockyards. I spent one summer getting paid very well to shovel cow manure. No kidding. It was back breaking work and I stank each evening afterwards. Yet, I still eat beef.

I have no problem killing a hen or a rooster for dinner. I haven't had to do that in the last 25 years, but I have done it before and would do it again. I prefer my food to be treated as humanely as possible. I pay a premium for meat from animals that were treated humanely.

I love going to visit my family; they've always got the best food. Organic vegetables from their own gardens and meat from animals they've raised themselves.

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