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Poll Question : should women be allowed to be topless in public?
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Yes, in certain places 64 39 %
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Posted: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:31:25 PM

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http://news.yahoo.com/topless-day-york-seeks-equal-rights-bare-chests-205128580.html

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Some two dozen topless women protested in a New York City park on a hot, sweaty Sunday as part of what they called "National Go-Topless Day" to draw attention to inequality in topless rights between men and women.

There were topless men in the park, too, but nobody paid them much attention, a disparity, organizers said, that demonstrated the need for the event.

The topless women drew crowds of onlookers who took pictures and video with their cell phones.

"We say there is nothing wrong with the female nipple," Karen Heaven, an organizer of the event, told the crowd that quickly formed around her in Manhattan's Bryant Park. She was wearing white pants and not much else besides a purse over her shoulder. "My dog has six, I have two, but I can be put in jail for showing my nipples. It's 2012 -- what are we thinking?"

It is legal for women to go topless in public in New York City but laws vary widely across the United States. Heaven and her colleagues say discrimination is unconstitutional and they want full equality.

Similar protests were scheduled in about 30 U.S. cities and 10 around the world, organizers said.

The annual Go-Topless Day was established in 2007 by a former sports car journalist called Rael, who founded a religion called the Raelian Movement after he said he was visited by a space alien in a French volcano park who told him life on Earth was created by extraterrestrial scientists, according to an account on his website.

Occasional references to alien creators did not seem to register with the crowd, which focused mostly on the breasts.

"I'll show these to a few friends and then delete them after a few days," Rudy Sison, a New Yorker who happened to visit the park on Sunday, said as he thumbed through photographs and video he had just taken on his phone. "They're topless."

Several women waved signs saying: "Equal Topless Rights For All."

After the speeches, a guitarist led the crowd in a reworking of The Beatles' song "Let It Be."

"Let 'em breathe," people sang. "Let 'em breathe."

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Posted: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:38:28 AM

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Should women be allowed to be topless in public? Yes, probably. If I had an 18 yr old daughter, would I want her taking her morning jog or cutting the grass without a top on? No. There are lots of bad people in this world, that temptation could be too much for some guys. And it only takes one psycho to ruin lives. I'm not saying she'd be asking for it, no way. But reality is, someone would take it as permission to think she's open for business.







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Posted: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:03:57 AM

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So far I'm the odd man out. I think there is a time and a place for everything. Running around without a top in public should maybe be in designated areas at the beach or park. Not everywhere and not never.

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Posted: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:16:32 AM

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I think so.
I've seen guys with bigger breasts than some women.
I think if a guy has big breast that are bigger than a woman's breasts,he shouldn't be allowed to go topless.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:34:05 AM

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In Ontario, Canada women have the right to bare breasts in any of the places men can.
Women's Top-free Rights in Ontario
Women's Top-free Rights 20yrs Later
The old "No shirt, no shoes, no service" should apply.
I, personally, have no issue with it. Women have been breast feeding babies for years.
On a hot day, in the summertime, in a park or at a beach, sure. In the middle of a air-conditioned, crowded shopping mall, not so much.
I've seen women walking down the street topless. Once the initial reaction is gone, its just another day. I don't see it as a big deal

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Posted: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 11:04:04 AM

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In certain places. Wherever men can. Given how many men claim that their nipples are erogenous, there's no real justification for allowing men to expose them and not women. The excuse that they might attract men with bad intentions is something the woman makes a decision on. For the society to do that for her is to presume she can't decide for herself. You carry that argument to its logical conclusion and you have BMOs who suffer vitamin D deficiency. There's far too much of that paternalism in our laws. The sooner we weed out the belief that we have a right to make such personal decisions for others, the sooner we'll take away the cost of enforcement of the controls.



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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:21:48 AM

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Irishdandy wrote:
So far I'm the odd man out. I think there is a time and a place for everything. Running around without a top in public should maybe be in designated areas at the beach or park. Not everywhere and not never.

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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:32:53 AM

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I agree with you guys, there is a time and place to whip out the boobs. The beach, bush where ever. However it's like the whole breastfeeding debate. Should mothers be allowed to put their breasts out so they can feed baby?



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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:43:45 AM

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MarySweets wrote:
I agree with you guys, there is a time and place to whip out the boobs. The beach, bush where ever. However it's like the whole breastfeeding debate. Should mothers be allowed to put their breasts out so they can feed baby?



I feel the same... Time and place, but then the breastfeeding to me is a whole different thing... I think it is like anything else, how we perceive it makes it a "good" or "bad" thing. Breastfeeding is just the mama feeding her baby to me. Normal, I grew up with it etc... But perhaps being female has something to do with it... Idk...
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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:14:40 AM

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There may be a time and a place where toplessness seems inappropriate for women but not for men. But isn't that just a forcing of our preferences on people who don't agree with us? Why would we allow the law to have this gender-based double standard? Are we saying that women are not capable of deciding this for themselves? Most of our legal restrictions on behavior are there to protect our rights to life and liberty. By what right can we restrict women who want this liberty? Do we have a right to not see topless women but no right to not see topless men? Or is this just a way of abusing the authority of law to control people?

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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:21:25 AM

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If there was no indecent exposure law, allowing women to walk around topless. I would say. It would be up to the women walking, she shouldnt be forced to either not wear a top or to, unless they are under age. dont want creeps looking at little girls. It should be the women's right to say "you know what im going to go topless." That is my aspect of it.
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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:31:48 AM

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Marshall20 wrote:
If there was no indecent exposure law, allowing women to walk around topless. I would say. It would be up to the women walking, she shouldnt be forced to either not wear a top or to, unless they are under age. dont want creeps looking at little girls. It should be the women's right to say "you know what im going to go topless." That is my aspect of it.


It's okay to let creeps look at topless little boys, but not topless little girls? Why the double standard?

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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:55:37 AM

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Anywhere guys can walk around topless, girls should too! Otherwise its the old 'double standard' rearing its ugly head.
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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:23:09 AM

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Why not ?It is accepted in other societies.Maybe if we were open with our sexuality and less involved with violence we would be better off
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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:35:13 AM

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I can see both sides of this debate, however, I think for me, being naked is intimate... Nit something I generally want to share with the world.
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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:05:09 PM

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Yes, it's OK to have a woman show her breast.. see, shes not showing anything at all. She's just going topless. The obvious reasons that all of those people were interested in shooting photos and videos it's because it's unusual. Give them the freedom to go topless and after awhile it will be normal and OK, as it should.

So many film directors have shown this in various way, from Pier Paolo Pasolini to show naked people at the beginning of his movies to Spielberg in the movie ET. Instead of waiting to the end of the two hours to show you a glimpse of an absolutely (to us) strange creature. He gives it to us from the beginning, after a few minutes, the curiosity is gone and it becomes just like any other movie character and we start to focus and the actual plot instead of seeing the extraterrestrial.

Unfortunately it seems that the progress at times stalls. These hopeful women fight their right in NY while just a few miles away in the neighboring state of NJ they want to make it illegal (I think they did?) to have women stroll on a boardwalk in their bathing suit. They are sun bathing two feet away on the sand and they have to get dressed to go get some food on the boardwalk.

Oh yeah and what a shame to see a little of a woman breast nursing her baby.

Yeah, we lost it.

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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:12:01 PM

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1ball wrote:


It's okay to let creeps look at topless little boys, but not topless little girls? Why the double standard?






Not it is not right to let creeps look at little boys without there shirt on. In my opinion, the parents are responsible for what your kids go out in. Parents shouldnt let there kids go out half naked, and you should be able to see your kid in sight to make sure they don't take it off when there not paying attention.
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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:12:30 PM

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Why not? There is nothing wrong with a woman baring her upper half. It is only our "liberated" societies attitudes
that make it seem something that is rude and lewd.
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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:46:29 PM

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It all sounds all well and good to have women go topless, but think about it: in our spicety we're still in the Victorian mindset. Hell, people stare at a woman who is wearing a bikini!
And let's consider one more thing: our auto insurance would sky rocket what with all the accidents that would occur...

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karebare09 wrote:
I can see both sides of this debate, however, I think for me, being naked is intimate... Nit something I generally want to share with the world.


But the issue here is legality and choice. As a guy, I have a choice and I almost never go topless because of the possibility of sunburn. But why should I have a vote on your choice? Why should your vote affect other women? If we can make women wear tops, we can make them wear dresses, we can make men grow beards, we can ban belts and buttons and zippers and flip flops. Or we could demand that our laws make sense by requiring a reasonable justification based on violated rights for any infringement on liberties and any double standard.


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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:58:03 PM

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allinabout18times wrote:
It all sounds all well and good to have women go topless, but think about it: in our spicety we're still in the Victorian mindset. Hell, people stare at a woman who is wearing a bikini!
And let's consider one more thing: our auto insurance would sky rocket what with all the accidents that would occur...


Are those valid reasons to infringe on the liberties of half the population? Do we have a right to cheaper insurance? Do we have a right to cling to a Victorian, or a Catholic, or any other mindset?

Isn't it dangerous to give government the authority to use such flimsy because-this-might-happen or because-it-make-someone-uncomfortable excuses for limiting our options?


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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:27:53 PM

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It's legal where I live, but I don't know anyone that practices it, outside of Pride Parades or events/festivals like that in terms of regular city life. Although at Pride, I've seen guys going bottomless too, so seeing breasts isn't particularly high on the shock-value scale.

I don't have an issue with it in theory but if a woman does it, she's going to get gawked at because it's outside the norm, so as long as she's prepared for that kind of attention, then more power to her.

I think it makes sense in certain locations (beach, park, outdoor concerts, festivals etc), but if you're in an urban downtown core, I don't think it's a smart move. Even when it comes to guys, I'd prefer to see them in t-shirts or tank-tops in the city. It's fine if people want to make a statement but I'm more in favour of situation-appropriate dress codes in general.

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it's something on some people i wouldn't mind but certainly on others i would. but that's a double standard that cuts both ways
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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:59:57 PM

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The issue is really neither here nor there. Even if it was legal for women to go topless everywhere, unless everyone went topless so that it became commonplace, there would be so much gawping that very few women would be prepared to put up with it.

Personally I don't much care for people (male or female) going around towns or cities topless, with the possible exception of people who want to sunbath in the park or something. Not because I'm a prude or anything (obviously enough), but because I just have a thing about it.
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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:54:01 PM

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I think the answer is an obvious "of course".

As long as men can walk around without their shirts, why can't women? Women's shirts aren't hiding genitalia, they're hiding breasts. Something which men can and technically do have. Where I live it actually is legal, but few women avail themselves of the option due to a state trooper (ignorant of the local law) restraining and eventually striking a woman for "resisting arrest" some years back. Other incidents, too, but more and more people are choosing to walk topless legally and I think that's the way it should be.

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I think that all clothing should be optional, not just those pieces of clothing that shroud the upper body. Just like I'd never mandate that a person must go nude, I'd never mandate that a person must go about fully dressed. Whether a person wears any clothing or not should be entirely at the discretion of the individual. They should understand that should they choose to go nude, they may receive unwelcome attention in the form of catcalls or wolf whistles, or they may be at the mercy of the environment and so receive a sunburn. But the choice to subject themselves to that attention should be theirs.

As has been mentioned by a previous poster, if it becomes commonplace enough, eventually all the fuss will die out and a naked person will be judged as just another person.

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I don't think women should be ticketed for it, the old equal rights thing. I also don't see the problem, no one would have worn a bikini 50 years ago except the same women who may go topless now. I know most of you don't remember Jane Russel in the movie "The Outlaw" where she wore a low cut blouse. There were pickets around theaters that showed it and sermons in churches. I've seen prom dresses that showed more than she did. Probably, in time, it will be fully accepted in our society.
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i love women's bodies..i love how truly beautiful they are...the body is so amazing!

but hell to the absolute no!

i do not want my family night out with MY kids to be disturbed by some rudie nudie just letting it ALL hang out..& please if u have kids u dont want them to be sexposed..to anything..MORE than they are now..they should be allowed to be kids as long as they are able

& to be perfectly honest is will not be some perfect set of breasts peering at us over the dam menu's

it will be all those 60 plus people who go to the nudiest beaches that we all have seen giving interviews..why? for the time u are 60 u are like..who the hell cares what u all think

however i am ALL for opening up restaurants, clubs, gyms whatever it takes so people can enjoy their bodies

yet...aslo so that those of us who are a bit more conservative in our tastes can be free too...

having seen guys walking around without pants on at mardi gras...it is embarassing...try explaining that to your tween..

if it is a place for 18 & older that is just fine
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