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nicola
Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:48:40 PM

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What do you think is going to be important / ground breaking / happening politically / economically in 2012?

I think there's going to be a massive crash in Europe for starters.

Already Spain, Greece, Italy, Ireland, and a few others, are teetering on the brink of bankruptcy. Germany has been holding up the entire Euro currency almost by itself in the last year or so. They aren't going to want to continue to do that, resentment has already built up to gargantuan proportions. The US appears to be over the worst of it, and the $ should get stronger against the above Euro countries.

So, I think 2012 will be the year of another recession, biting hard particularly in Europe.

Staying on the subject of economics, I believe we'll start seeing the emergence of South America as a major world force.

On that cheery note, what do you think 2012 will bring on a macro scale?

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Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:51:47 PM

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nicola wrote:
What do you think is going to be important / ground breaking / happening politically / economically in 2012?



Isn't the world supposed to end according to the Mayan calender or something? Or was that last year...I can't keep track of these things...

That would be a big event...just saying...


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nicola
Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:57:50 PM

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We'll soon find out.

How is it supposed to end, a meteorite or something? I haven't read much about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon

Buz
Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:05:08 PM

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the Mayans and Nostradamus predicted the world to end in 2012. It better not because the UGA Bulldogs are returning nearly all of their starters in football and it could be an awesome season!

Nicola, I sure hope Europe doesn't have an economic collapse. But that does scare the shit out of me. Their highly socialized entitlement economic practices has Europe on the brink of bankruptcy and total economic chaos. Now France is in trouble. If France collapses economically Europe will crumble. Then the USA, followed by Canada (which is tethered to the American economy like a Siamese twin.) Next Japan, Australia, then worldwide chaos. And can you imagine the Mideast violence once no one can buy their oil and desperation sets in?

I am hoping 2012 will bring some positive economic news and rising world stock markets(that would be nice since I bought a bunch of stock for practically nothing.)

I do predict that Iran will formally announce that they have a nuclear bomb in 2012.

DirtyMartini
Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:07:35 PM

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Boy, you're a real basket of cheer there Buz...

Happy New Year to you too...happy8


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Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:43:50 PM

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In 2012 I will have to declare a major at college. In fact I have to do that the first week of January and I still don't know for sure. But I have 2 strong ideas. Business or Criminal Justice.

I sure hope there aren't any economic crashes.

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Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:29:04 PM

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that whole the "world coming to an end" thing is a bunch of crap. i dont believe Nostradamus in saying it coming to an end. he was just pulling things out his ass. yes the Mayan calender predicted that the world will end on December 21 2012 but i also read in the paper that i could mean something else and I'm going with the something else..only time will tell
nicola
Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:29:59 PM

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Buz wrote:
I am hoping 2012 will bring some positive economic news and rising world stock markets(that would be nice since I bought a bunch of stock for practically nothing.)


I'm with you Buz, I'm putting most of the proceeds of my recent house sale into stocks. There are some absolute gems out there at the moment. I'm talking ten bagger potential. You'll probably have to hold them 5 years, well, the ones I am getting at least.

I may wait a few months to let the sh*t really hit the fan in Europe, that should drive stock prices down even lower.

2012, the year of the Bull...(actually, the Chinese believe it's the year of the Dragon. Sounds like a Bruce Lee film).
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Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:25:00 PM

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nicola wrote:
I'm with you Buz, I'm putting most of the proceeds of my recent house sale into stocks. There are some absolute gems out there at the moment. I'm talking ten bagger potential. You'll probably have to hold them 5 years, well, the ones I am getting at least.



What a tease. Care to drop any hints regarding the tenfold opportunities?
nicola
Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:12:09 AM

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I make it a policy not to tell friends about stock tips, if they go wrong and they lose the blouse / shirt off their back, I feel guilty!

I will say I like fool.com, especially their Stock Advisor service. I've learnt so much about investing from them over the years. Very clever outside the box thinkers. They look at things holistically, and then drill down too.
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Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:41:13 AM

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Nicola. Great post. I agree with you on Europe. Germany it appears is holding up the euro and that can not last much
longer. The problems there now as you said it's becoming overwhelming. I've seen a few finanical analysts who believe
it will come unraveled soon in Europe. Not good news and all should hope they are wrong.
Here in the US. I'm hopefull that we have turned the corner or at least peeked around it. The coming elections will
will clear things up on which direction the US will head. All in all i am optimistic that we will see a very slow recovery.
Nicola. I believe you are correct in thinking there will be opportunities to do well.


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Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:43:12 AM

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Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:22:54 AM

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I'm hoping for a lot of positivity not only in my life, but for the world. I will be one step closer to getting my associate's degree and another step towards getting a bachelor's degree in journalism, minoring in English composition and photography.

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Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:01:54 AM

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World wars, Nostradamus, Sunni's versus Shiites ... Iran versus the rest of the western world plus a nuclear weapon and a doomwatch economically in Europe.

Start with the European economic situation. The Euro was 'cobbled' on the back of the Deutschemark with a 'one size fits all' attitude to interest rates. Anyone who knows Europe will tell you the differences culturally between Spain, Italy, Greece and Germany are vast. Germany is not propping up the Euro, it was doomed from day one of its existence and Europe's economy will have to return to that which it formally was.

Sunni's versus Shiites. Bit like Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland. OK .. they've got a religious bone to pick with each other but nothing's new - they've been doing that for centuries and at the end of the day the trouble dies down and they live an uneasy peace with each other.

Nostradamus doesn't even enter the equation unless you want to believe every soothsayer who's walked the planet - and there's been lots of those. As for Iran and its present leaders, they need to be constantly aware of their neighbour, Sunni Saudi Arabia - in more ways than one. The cradle of Islam ... an attack upon whom would create outrage amongst the Islamic world, Sunni's and Shiia's alike, bringing swift retribution all round from every Muslim country in the world. Israel in particular bleats on about Iran but it's all propaganda designed to alienate the Western world from anything Islamic. They in reality know Iran doesn't pose a threat to them.

So, all in all with America's economy looking slightly on the up. Doesn't seem like anything more than an average year in prospect - though if you're Chinese or Indian or Brazilian another bumper year looks the order of the day and humanity will survive and still be fucking each other senseless by this time next year.
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Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:16:10 AM

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Guns, Gold, and a Getaway Plan

The world (as we know it) is supposed to end on 12/22/2012 - So, we have a year to party up!

http://www.trendsresearch.com/index.php



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Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:31:00 PM

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nicola wrote:
We'll soon find out.

How is it supposed to end, a meteorite or something? I haven't read much about it.


What I understand is that the end of the Mayan Calendar is not the end of days, but the beginning of a new era. Even the decedents of the Mayan people say that it does not denote doomsday.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 6:04:46 PM

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Maybe Nicola called it.

Moody's puts the European Union's triple-A credit rating on a negative outlook, in a move that reflects actions the ratings firm has taken on some of the euro-zone's largest members.

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Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 11:00:59 PM

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Buz wrote:


the Mayans and Nostradamus predicted the world to end in 2012


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She wrote:


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The bad thing is that the comic there is actually right. The whole thing is because of the Mayan numbersystem. Unlike us who have ten different numbers on our keyboard the Mayan would have 20. This means that when they started making the calendar the numbersystem only let them go as far as 21st of December 2012. Should they have continued the calendar it would have started on year 0. And when it's 500 years until you reach the end I bet a decent fuck and a drink is more tempting than starting at scratch.

It will be like looking at the calendar in your phone, see how far it stretches and then go "Steve Jobs predicted that the world will end in...."

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elitfromnorth wrote:


The bad thing is that the comic there is actually right. The whole thing is because of the Mayan numbersystem. Unlike us who have ten different numbers on our keyboard the Mayan would have 20. This means that when they started making the calendar the numbersystem only let them go as far as 21st of December 2012. Should they have continued the calendar it would have started on year 0. And when it's 500 years until you reach the end I bet a decent fuck and a drink is more tempting than starting at scratch.

It will be like looking at the calendar in your phone, see how far it stretches and then go "Steve Jobs predicted that the world will end in...."


evil4 you are funny, but I honestly didn't know about Mayans number-system, thanks for that!
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From the DJ morning briefing.

Euro-zone business activity slid at an accelerated pace in August, the latest indication the crisis-hit region is likely to enter a recession and that Germany, its biggest economy, is sputtering.

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She wrote:


evil4 you are funny, but I honestly didn't know about Mayans number-system, thanks for that!


You're welcome icon_smile I'm always happy if someone can take interest in all the bullshit that I know laughing6

To add on the whole "The world as we know will change" comes from a series of predictions they made where the periods are seperated in what I believe is "Khartoums" or something along those lines. I can't remember exactly what timeeras each of these represent, but they are linked with the Mayan calendar. These books contain rather broad prophecies of what will happen in said time period. It will be like saying "Leaders will be hanged", make it valid for 100 years and then say that because of the revolution in a third world country I was right.

Besides, the world as we know it have changed so many times without it causing the end of it. 9/11, fall of the Soviet Union, invention of mobile phones and so many other things. Should the prediction be true for all we know it might be that some smart man figures out a way to completely remove the CO2 releases from cars. That will also change the world as we know it...

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That's a tough one. But I'll give it my best shot.

Ok. South America (where I happen to live) has the potential to grow, but corruption and narcos are screwing everything up.

On the other hand, there is Asia, that little by little has been getting a reputation. And let me tell you they are disciplined. They know what they're doing and they're doing it well.

Europe has always had a complicated economy due to political issues. Some countries don't like others. Some for good reasons, others for not too good reasons.

But my guess is that we'll see the rise of the Asian beyond our wildest dreams.They don't like to brag, so they might even have a very nice pandora box in store for us to see.




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ElChupacabras wrote:
Ok. South America (where I happen to live) has the potential to grow, but corruption and narcos are screwing everything up.


I've always wondered what it would do to the world economy if either South America or Africa could get their shit together enough to form a supernation like the EU. There hasn't been a lot of international war in South America, but there is an incredible amount of corruption. Cure that and you could have an economic powerhouse.

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ElChupacabras wrote:
That's a tough one. But I'll give it my best shot.

Ok. South America (where I happen to live) has the potential to grow, but corruption and narcos are screwing everything up.

On the other hand, there is Asia, that little by little has been getting a reputation. And let me tell you they are disciplined. They know what they're doing and they're doing it well.

Europe has always had a complicated economy due to political issues. Some countries don't like others. Some for good reasons, others for not too good reasons.

But my guess is that we'll see the rise of the Asian beyond our wildest dreams.They don't like to brag, so they might even have a very nice pandora box in store for us to see.




Just my opinionsheepholy


Asia is starting to get one big problem; luxury. The reason everything says "Made in China" and so forth is because it's cheap labour. But now the standard of living in China in the cities at least is becoming better, thus the prices go up and the need for wages to go up increases as well. This means that the profit of outsourcing to Asian companies are going down, and then they'll start looking at other possibilities. We'll see Africa and South America on the rise. Several African countries have oil and they're working on clearing out the corruption. Once that happens you'll have an industrial boom all over Africa. Companies will build factories and schools to get workers, kids will be educated and so forth.

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Posted: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:57:53 PM

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Boy this is getting damn interesting. Well, I wish they'd get their shit together at least here in my country. Personally I've been to the States, and got culturized, which has helped me see things from another point of view. I think that if we were at least a little more organized we could pull it off. Unfortunately, I sadly have to admit the few of us who have the guts to protest and try to make people aware of what we got, are usually considered nuts to say the least. Gotta keep trying though. I do every day.

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That's the one good thing about a supernation. It frees people to go to whichever member country they want to work in, invest in, or buy from. Competition for taxpayers has a way of limiting both corruption and generosity toward unproductive voters.

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At this rate in the UK, 2012 will probably be the end of the line for (a) free banking (b) an NHS (c) hopefully those ugly Ugg boots all the girls wear. I hate them.
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