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CharlotteRusse1 wrote:America is still a country founded by Puritans. There was a good story in Salon today about a recent Supreme Court decision which would allow almost any amount of violence in video games, but still restrict any nudity severely. Judge Stevens in his dissent said something like: A game is o.k. for kids under 17 if you hit the hooker and then chop her head off, but if she's topless all of a sudden it's rated?
Exceptional American sex hangup. Some of my best lovers have been "good Christian" women ... One was even married to a church deacon! 
Ferþu hal!
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naughtyannie wrote:Well, speaking as pretty much a beginner at this, I'm not ashamed of what I write. In fact, I'm proud of it. I try my best to write my stories as well as I can, and I can't do more than that.
And get this - some of the stories I've read here are far better written (in terms of vocabulary, pacing of story, characterisation etc) than some popular fiction I've read - you listening, Dan Brown??? TAH-DAHHHHHHH!!!!!! I love what I write...... xx SF
"The problem is that I've never embraced my eccentricity in the way that it has embraced me..." "That sounds terribly self-important." "My point exactly..."xx SF
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And Smut Writers are better in bed........
(WELL, WE ARE!!!!!!!)
xxSF
"The problem is that I've never embraced my eccentricity in the way that it has embraced me..." "That sounds terribly self-important." "My point exactly..."xx SF
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Morgan Hawke said. "Formal Education teaches you to stuff as many words into a paragraph as possible. Preferably using the biggest words available, (with extra points for obscurity.)"
I agree. One of the toughest parts of my job as a Professional Civil Engineer was editing junk written by the junior engineers, fresh out of college.
I saw a bumper sticker once, that has long been my favorite: ESCHEW OBFUSCATION
As to the concept that writers of erotica have low self-respect, I say balderdash. Every writer who submits copy for publication, be it here, or elsewhere, has very high self-respect; otherwise he would think his work unworthy of publication. What kind of twisted logic could possibly lead one to conclude otherwise?
(and YEAH - what Steph said: we ARE better in bed! )
"There's only three tempos: slow, medium and fast. When you get between in the cracks, ain't nuthin' happenin'." Ben Webster
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That is just a bunch of crap. It is the narrow mindedness that has others saying things about erotica. Yet, they are the ones in the bookstores, huddled in a corner, peering at a book and constantly looking around to see if they are being watched. In one breath, they are damning us to hell, while secretly thinking 'OOOOOOOOOOOOH that was a GREAT read.' Erotic writers have done what they have not and that is take a step outside of the box and go for it. That is what irritates them, that is their lack of self respect.
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GallagherWitt wrote:GAWD that stuff drives me nuts. >.< Sex is an enormous part of the human condition, and acting like we shouldn't write about it is absurd. Especially when most of the people who spout all that crap have no problem at all with violence.
Case in point: I was 16 when Titanic came out, and a lot of parents were horrified about us going to see it because of the TEH BEWBAGE and the OMG BACKSEAT SCENE. No one batted an eye about Rose's fiance' smacking her across the face, a guy bouncing off the ship's prop, or, you know, dozens of people freezing to death in the Atlantic.
And don't even get me started on people who think smut is "well, it's okay, I guess", but are horrified -- HORRIFIED I SAY! -- about gay erotica. Nothing entertains me more than looking them right in the eye and asking, "Oh really? And just WHAT is wrong with two men having consensual, passionate sex?" Usually makes them stammer and stutter a bit...hehehe
Anyway.
/rant over
Great post, Morgan, as always. Jack Nicholson once said "America is a strange country to make films in. If you cut off a woman's breast you get an M rating, but kiss it and you'll get an R." I was disturbed by that Mr and Mrs Smith crap, in the scene where they beat the living shyte out of one another as a kind of foreplay. Giving young people a healthy view of human sexuality and adult relationships? Well....maybe not.
“No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power.” ― P.J. O'Rourke
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In my somewhat limited experience, the people who are anti-erotica are the same people who are "pro-life" (anti-abortion) but in favor of retaining (and using) capital punishment.
"There's only three tempos: slow, medium and fast. When you get between in the cracks, ain't nuthin' happenin'." Ben Webster
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GallagherWitt wrote:GAWD that stuff drives me nuts. >.< Sex is an enormous part of the human condition, and acting like we shouldn't write about it is absurd. Especially when most of the people who spout all that crap have no problem at all with violence.
Case in point: I was 16 when Titanic came out, and a lot of parents were horrified about us going to see it because of the TEH BEWBAGE and the OMG BACKSEAT SCENE. No one batted an eye about Rose's fiance' smacking her across the face, a guy bouncing off the ship's prop, or, you know, dozens of people freezing to death in the Atlantic.
And don't even get me started on people who think smut is "well, it's okay, I guess", but are horrified -- HORRIFIED I SAY! -- about gay erotica. Nothing entertains me more than looking them right in the eye and asking, "Oh really? And just WHAT is wrong with two men having consensual, passionate sex?" Usually makes them stammer and stutter a bit...hehehe
Anyway.
/rant over
Great post, Morgan, as always. Your post, and this thread reminded me of a picture one of my FB friends shared today... A gay Vietnam vet's last words...I think this sums up your statement... 
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DirtyMartini wrote:GallagherWitt wrote:GAWD that stuff drives me nuts. >.< Sex is an enormous part of the human condition, and acting like we shouldn't write about it is absurd. Especially when most of the people who spout all that crap have no problem at all with violence.
Case in point: I was 16 when Titanic came out, and a lot of parents were horrified about us going to see it because of the TEH BEWBAGE and the OMG BACKSEAT SCENE. No one batted an eye about Rose's fiance' smacking her across the face, a guy bouncing off the ship's prop, or, you know, dozens of people freezing to death in the Atlantic.
And don't even get me started on people who think smut is "well, it's okay, I guess", but are horrified -- HORRIFIED I SAY! -- about gay erotica. Nothing entertains me more than looking them right in the eye and asking, "Oh really? And just WHAT is wrong with two men having consensual, passionate sex?" Usually makes them stammer and stutter a bit...hehehe
Anyway.
/rant over
Great post, Morgan, as always. Your post, and this thread reminded me of a picture one of my FB friends shared today... A gay Vietnam vet's last words...I think this sums up your statement... I guess if I was forced to respond, I'd say; the only thing wrong with gay (mens) sex is; It doesn't turn me on. But hey, what ever dude,,,
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GallagherWitt wrote:GAWD that stuff drives me nuts. >.< Sex is an enormous part of the human condition, and acting like we shouldn't write about it is absurd. Especially when most of the people who spout all that crap have no problem at all with violence.
Yeah, here's a recent article along the same lines...and I think you can appreciate this one G-W...needless to say, this decision caused a bit of backlash...I had to post this somewhere, and this seems like the spot... Ban on same-sex stories in romance competition causes outcryhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/feb/08/ban-same-sex-romance-competition?newsfeed=true
You know you want it, you know you need it bad...get it now on Amazon.com...Lush Erotica, an Anthology of Award Winning Sex Stories
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As my second wife said many years ago about films and the "rating system", "There is something very wrong when it is okay to cut off someone's boob with a chainsaw, but it is not all right to touch it in a kind, loving, or gentle way."
"There's only three tempos: slow, medium and fast. When you get between in the cracks, ain't nuthin' happenin'." Ben Webster
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I think there always have been - and always will be - people with double standards. Look back to the Victorian times when the 'head of the household' was very strict with his womenfolk and yet some of the husbands would be going with prostitutes. Nothing wrong with the latter, if it takes your fancy, but don't preach about immorality and then do the same thing yourself.
Also, and I have no wish to cause offence to anyone, I find that a lot of religious people are very hypocritical. They pray in church and follow the commandments saying 'Love they neighbour' then they are the biggest bitches on earth. Believe me I have come across quite a few of them. So, I know I am generalising, so don't jump down my throat.
My friends would be horrified if they knew that I wrote stories for this site, yet they have affairs with married men - double standards again.
Alan, that gravestone that you showed was a really poignant reminder of how daft the human race is.
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NaughtyAnn wrote:
Alan, that gravestone that you showed was a really poignant reminder of how daft the human race is.
That gravestone rekindled my anger with the military mindset in general (all puns intended) and that war, in particular.
"There's only three tempos: slow, medium and fast. When you get between in the cracks, ain't nuthin' happenin'." Ben Webster
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If the people that put down us erotica writers bothered to get in touch with their own sensuality and get comfortable with sex then they wouldn't try to shame us because of their own self-shame.
Sex is not the answer. Sex is the question. "Yes" is the answer. ~Swami X
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