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Well last night a friend of mine and I on here discovered a fake in one of the chat rooms. She was using the pics of a beautiful porn star and passing them off as her own. They were obvious fakes, but some poor suckers still fell for them...like a bunch of poor suckers. When I posted the link to the pics online in chat, she first denied then acknowledged that it was a ruse. And after that, she hurled insults at me and decided to take up someone else's pics not 10 minutes later. Anywho, my friend and I started chatting and she suggested that perhaps it would be funny to make a thread in the forums exposing fakes and posers that we stumble across here on Lush. I said no because it's just not a can of worms I want to open. But I must admit, I am curious now, and the idea is still in the back of my mind. On the one hand, I know people come here to fantasize & role play and that exposing fakes would just create tension and make everyone feel as if they're under a microscope. And I would hate to remove the fantasy factor of Lush. But on the other hand, part of me feels that people have the right to know that "hothungstrappingthickcockmale" or "hornykinkybisexualwomanwithprettyandalwayswetvagina" got their pics right out of Google Images. But is this violating some sort of ethical code? And am I completely out of line for even entertaining the idea of creating a thread dedicated to exposing fakes? Or are we just better off not knowing??
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I don't care but, you might want to contact the site admin before starting it to see if it's kosher with them.
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Oh, I just thought everyone pretty much knew about the fakes. LOL. The honest Lushettes usually say something about - "the avatar" or "gallery pics" "are not me" or something of the like. BUT that said, many of the trollers don't care, do they?
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There used to be a thread like that, calling people out about their fake pics. I'm pretty sure that thread no longer exists, maybe there's a reason it's gone.
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Whilst it would be funny (for those of us who weren't exposed - no pun intended), such a thread would only serve to bring negative feeling in the forums and chatrooms, and lead to keyboard warriors getting on their feisty fake steeds and bashing each other with virtual dildos. I cannot see such a thread being acceptable to Admin, nor indeed, to many of the users.
I have no problem with people calling out liars at the time, but not a specific area for targetting people outside of the context. Mistakes happen too, and the last thing Lush needs is a fakes witch hunt. False accusations can cost genuine Lush Lives.
I'd say, simply carry on doing what you do, call the liars out when faced with the lie in front of you, and simply swap tales privately (don't forget to PM me any good gossip, okay?).
That's what I think, anyway. 
PS That's not really me in my avatar, in case you thought it was.
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Shylass wrote:PS That's not really me in my avatar, in case you thought it was. It's NOT?!?! I feel so betrayed...and all this time...I just...I can't believe it. I feel like our entire relationship has been one big floral lie! I mean, CLEARLY my avatar is 100% me. And I've never given you reason to think otherwise. What have you to say for yourself, young lady??
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Shylass wrote:Whilst it would be funny (for those of us who weren't exposed - no pun intended), such a thread would only serve to bring negative feeling in the forums and chatrooms, and lead to keyboard warriors getting on their feisty fake steeds and bashing each other with virtual dildos. I cannot see such a thread being acceptable to Admin, nor indeed, to many of the users.
I'd say, simply carry on doing what you do, call the liars out when faced with the lie in front of you, and simply swap tales privately (don't forget to PM me any good gossip, okay? I want an invitation if this happens. Or should I say when it happens the next time. Oh. My avatar really is me too. I get hot a lot.
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chefkathleen wrote:
I want an invitation if this happens. Or should I say when it happens the next time.
Lol. I'll alert all concerned parties next time I decide to play vigilante. 
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My avatar has always been me and I have the black frock coat with tails to prove it. The hat, however, is fake. Mine's a tall Victorian tophat. But that would have been ostentatious, no, mes cheries?
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WmCutterBlack wrote:My avatar has always been me and I have the black frock coat with tails to prove it. The hat, however, is fake. Mine's a tall Victorian tophat. But that would have been ostentatious, no, mes cheries? I always knew you'd have a big one...
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Texasson had a thread .... it was HILARIOUS!! but alas, CK is right .... it is no longer around.
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there is a difference between 'fantasy' and 'pretense'.which every adult knows..as a rule.. and as far as this site is concerned, we all are supposed to be adults..( we behave in that way or not is a different issue)... poaching someone's pic and faking out as them is not acceptable. You dont want to disclose who you are..sounds fine.. i do it as i have my reasons. Once my pic was used by my own good friend on some different site..hence i cannot take chances... so not disclosing your identity seems to be justified....now who will come forward and justify the pretense?? i am waiting...
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slipperywhenwet2012 wrote:But is this violating some sort of ethical code? And am I completely out of line for even entertaining the idea of creating a thread dedicated to exposing fakes? Or are we just better off not knowing?? Well of course you can put one up but what do you hope to achieve? Is it to make them see the light and accept themselves for who they are and us to welcome their true lumpen, mis-shapen forms with open arms (if we have them). We all have our reasons for being on here - for this person in the chat room it was to be a pornstar for the night - something you didn't want to play along with - which is as much your right. Online communities are fragile things full of people with very disparate (and desperate) needs. They're also only ever a few steps away from schism and collapse. An issue that is important for you to name and shame, may not be as important as other issues people have with users on here. Shall we also call out the creeps who repeatedly request pics and vids of users? Obviously there is a code of conduct for users on the site but that's largely to keep us out of trouble with the law and the terms of the service provider - the rest is really up to our own moral code - as far as morals go in this place. Do we have the right to spoil other peoples fun when it doesn't infringe upon ours - be they obvious fakes or serial assholes. Would you also have a list of users who are obviously cross-dressing men but have their profiles set to "female"? Would that be fair? If people are daft enough to believe that user x is the model in the picture then surely that's their look out. Personally I'm of the mind of let them get on with it.
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<---Is me behind a blacked out face, because I am still a bit shy in regards to the site. I do have a copy of it without my face blacked out, and here in a few weeks once I get more comfortable posting stories, and answering the forum stuff I will get it on here. Now to talk about what this post is really about, I think if people are using pictures and are not disclaiming they are fakes, then we should be able to out them, mainly for the reason is that can save those people from getting a lawsuit against them, as well as save the site from getting any frivolous lawsuits thrown at them. For example if and it's a huge if that said porn star is checking out the site, and the moderators allowed them to the picture up, that could cause major problems for the site, better safe than sorry ... IMHO
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Callisto wrote:There used to be a thread like that, calling people out about their fake pics. I'm pretty sure that thread no longer exists, maybe there's a reason it's gone. You are quite correct Brian!
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How about ironic user names to grab attention?? hhmmm
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I have to wonder why anyone would care if the pics are faked. This site is about fantasy and regardless of what image is used its the persons words that inspire affection here. I could see a need to share real pictures if someone chose to set up a real life meet, but if it's just cyber or friendly chat then whats the harm of creating a fantasy persona? To me, it seems some people have a fear of being taken or fooled but if one takes everything with a healthy grain of salt that shouldn't be an issue either. If I found that someone was not what they represented to me it wouldn't bother me because I kind of expect it. Very few of us are willing to show the world our warts. I suppose it's because I'm older but I just see no reason to ruin someone's fantasy by exposing them publicly. That's like outing a homosexual without their consent. One could say they were doing some sort of public service but all they are really doing is butting into a personal area without truly understanding why the person feels the need to be who they are. Really, does anyone have the right to make that kind of judgment?
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Well I say leave them be. I do agree, for me, lush is about fantasy. I must admit I have been fooled by the professional shots of some members, and was surprised when I stumbled upon a few top lushies when looking for sexy pics for the forums. If they are enjoying themselves and the people are enjoying these sexy pics then why not? As long as they don't plan to meet up with that person and then their dreams are shattered. Or even decide to cam with that person and discover a 30stone man with lipstick on instead of a playboy bunny! I mean check out my avatar! I've had to drag myself away from the frolics of the playboy mansion to spend some time on lush  Lush is for the weird and wonderful! Find out who is behind the avatar/pics that's what makes lush a lot more fun! 
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The thing is, I really couldn't care less how anyone looks. In fact, I don't even look at pics unless I'm specifically asked to do so. I understand that some people don't mind being duped. But I just think it's really wrong for people to steal another person's pics and claim them as their own. Or photoshop their face onto another's body. Or even steal a friend's pics from Facebook or something (I've seen it happen). I believe there's a way to fantasize without resorting to pirating someone else's pictures. And that's when I get annoyed because I think that's taking the whole fantasy factor too far. I mean, in this case the line between fantasy and blatant lies/fallacies is extremely thin. There are ways of becoming whoever you want to be online without going so far as hijacking another's physical identity. However, I can see why/how creating a thread "outing" people could be a bit much. Which is exactly why I posted this one instead. I just wanted to see others' opinions on the matter, and as usual, you guys didn't disappoint.
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I can assure you, my avatar is much shinier and hairless than the real me.
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I agree let them get on with it. No ones forcing you to look at or comment on any ones pics and it wont achieve anything by publicly outing them. I just sit back and laugh at the people who get taken it by obviously fake pics - especially when they have about 10, all clearly different people, i mean really?!
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slipperywhenwet2012 wrote:However, I can see why/how creating a thread "outing" people could be a bit much. Which is exactly why I posted this one instead. I just wanted to see others' opinions on the matter, and as usual, you guys didn't disappoint. I was in the room that night and saw the entire exchange between you two. I felt you were a bit harsh, but do understand where it came from. In my opinion, I automatically assume many of the pics are fakes. I mean how many guys are really that ripped or girls really that perfect. And before anyone screams at me, yes, I know there are those that ARE real. As far as lawsuits for people stealing pics of porn stars, they are porn stars for cripes sake! Their pics are public domain as are the pics of movie stars and other public figures. So the whole lawsuit thing is really a moot point. I personally don't really care what picture some one chooses to use as their avatar or in their galleries, or if they choose to claim it is them. Does it really make a difference in the grand scheme of things? If I were to plan on meeting a Lushie IRL, (and I have met several) I would exchange photos ahead of time. If I got a vibe they were not the real thing, I would cancel the meeting. So far, I have not had to cancel a meeting. As far as my avatar, I lied in my profile.... it really is me! 
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I don't think it's a great idea, honestly. I think we shouldn't make a sport out of hunting for 'fakes' or 'posers' as you call them, is all. I think what they're doing is a little silly, but I think calling them on it every time and searching them out is a waste of time and calls more attention to what they're doing than they would ever receive if they were just left alone. I don't think it would be taking the fantasy out of Lush, but it might lead to a higher degree of tedium, than anything else.
I choose not to keep images on my page at all (at least thus far) partly for that reason. I'm not sharing images of myself here, and I don't want to just display something that other people were responsible for creating - that I had no part in. With that said, I don't have a problem with sharing stuff that you think is cool, but I think it's more than a little silly to just put up photos so that you have an image gallery, too. A bit off topic, but I'm not exactly sure what they were claiming the images to be, that you considered fraudulent. Anyway, there's my couple of cents.
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Milik_The_Red wrote:I have to wonder why anyone would care if the pics are faked. This site is about fantasy and regardless of what image is used its the persons words that inspire affection here.
I could see a need to share real pictures if someone chose to set up a real life meet, but if it's just cyber or friendly chat then whats the harm of creating a fantasy persona?
To me, it seems some people have a fear of being taken or fooled but if one takes everything with a healthy grain of salt that shouldn't be an issue either. If I found that someone was not what they represented to me it wouldn't bother me because I kind of expect it. Very few of us are willing to show the world our warts. I suppose it's because I'm older but I just see no reason to ruin someone's fantasy by exposing them publicly. That's like outing a homosexual without their consent. One could say they were doing some sort of public service but all they are really doing is butting into a personal area without truly understanding why the person feels the need to be who they are.
Really, does anyone have the right to make that kind of judgment? You are correct mam 
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usmcvet wrote:You are correct mam Err.....Sir 
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Well said, ladies? Gentlemen?
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