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Poll Question : Who would you vote for right now? (Poll is closed)
Choice Votes Statistics
Barack Obama (Democrat) 58 54 %
Mitt Romney (Republican) 35 32 %
Gary Johnson (Libertarian) 7 6 %
Tom Hoefling (American Independent Party) 1 0 %
Dr. Jill Stein (Green Party) 2 1 %
Other 4 3 %

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JessicaX
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 2:34:46 PM

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There are not enough polls! Let's give it a shot!
International voters welcome. Though this will scew the "accuracy", give it a shot since the winner will certainly affect you also. Let us see how we do compared to all the rest of the polls!
Guest
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:05:38 PM

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You forgot Rosanne Barr. She's on there too.
Milik_Redman
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:10:42 PM

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chefkathleen wrote:
You forgot Rosanne Barr. She's on there too.


Another vote for Gary Johnson, but when Obama wins, I will at least be proud of the country for confirming the fact that racism's ugly grip is being broken.

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doctorlove
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 6:15:09 PM

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Romney all the way!
Guest
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 6:49:12 PM

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I agree with Doctor an racisim has nothing to do with it
ByronLord
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:01:45 PM

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Angie57 wrote:
I agree with Doctor an racisim has nothing to do with it


But which Romney? Romney the moderate Republican MA governor or Romney the Tea Party supporter?

Milik_Redman
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:14:54 PM

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Angie57 wrote:
I agree with Doctor an racisim has nothing to do with it


I did not mean to imply that all Romney voters are racists. Rather, it is a sad truth that no minority candidate would have had a chance just a few years ago. Nothing more than that.

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hamz
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:13:34 PM

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Although, I would like to think that I am liberal... I am doubtful as to whether Obama's economic policies would work. This is not the time to increase spending on welfare - we have all seen what is happening in EU!

I am just glad that I am not an american - hence I do not have to vote! But the economic future of US does worry me (since it affects all of us)!!
ByronLord
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:27:23 PM

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hamz wrote:
Although, I would like to think that I am liberal... I am doubtful as to whether Obama's economic policies would work. This is not the time to increase spending on welfare - we have all seen what is happening in EU!

I am just glad that I am not an american - hence I do not have to vote! But the economic future of US does worry me (since it affects all of us)!!


The EU situation is entirely due to the stupidity of the Euro. There is a shortage of demand in most of the EU and a surplus in Germany. Before the Euro what would have happened is the governments with a shortage of demand would have printed as much money as needed to create demand to end their recession. But doing that now would cause a surplus of demand in Germany and that would mean inflation.

Because the German establishment misremembers history, they believe inflation led to the rise of Hitler. Actually the inflation was sorted out before Hitler came to power. It was the recession that followed that brought Hitler to power (that plus the establishment being OK with Hitler liquidating the Communist party which gave him the parliamentary majority he needed to pass the enabling act).

So now they are forcing Greece into a recession and ignoring the fact that a fascist party, Golden Dawn is drawing almost the level of support the NAZI party drew while also having a branch of thugs who beat people up for disagreeing with them.

Recessions happen from time to time and when they happen the government needs to create demand which means increasing the money supply one way or the other. Then when the economy is moving they should be running a surplus and paying down the debt incurred in the recession. The reason the US is in trouble right now is that Bush paid for tax cuts for Romney and two wars on the national credit card. Now Romney proposes $5 trillion in new tax cuts, $2 trillion in new spending and he promises to balance the budget too!

What they will do of course is to plough further into debt and then announce that it is all the fault of those 47% who are poor. And that is of course entirely their fault and not because the Walmarts and the Koch bros and such pay starvation wages and then make the rest of us taxpayers make up the difference with welfare.

The Walton family and the Koch bros and Romney have all benefitted massively from corporate welfare, that is what we should be cutting.

Green_Man
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:49:12 PM

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The Green Party all the way. By the way, Roseanne Barr was running for the "nomination" in the Green Party. She lost to Jill Stein.

sarah13
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:13:29 PM

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ByronLord wrote:


Before the Euro what would have happened is the governments with a shortage of demand would have printed as much money as needed to create demand to end their recession. But doing that now would cause a surplus of demand in Germany and that would mean inflation


I'm not sure if I'm reading it right but what you said seems to be the opposite of the truth? More money does not create demand, by printing more money the government would drive demand down and actually depreciate their currency.

drunken
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Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:19:01 PM

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Romney all the way
Guest
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:23:40 PM

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What I meant was we get so hung up on race! THe right martian runs I woud vote for them If i thought they could do the job. And yes the Gov of Mass not the Tea Party
JessicaX
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:33:58 PM

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chefkathleen wrote:
You forgot Rosanne Barr. She's on there too.


I know, but with hundreds running, I chose only the candidates on enough ballots to "possibly" win. To test the strength of all the other candidates from the Socialist Workers' Party to Barr's Peace and Freedom Party please vote "Other."
Abbey
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:48:52 PM

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Great time for this poll! Go Barack!
sprite
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:55:05 PM

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i WANT to vote green, but in reality, i'm voting for Mr Obama...
BoredAsHell1978
Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 12:10:14 AM

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I voted for Obama the first time and that's who I'll be voting for again!!
MexicanGoddess
Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 12:22:12 AM

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tazznjazz
Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 12:30:16 AM

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We had one president in the 80's with Ronniesia, we dont need any Romnesia to bring back those tired trickle down policys. Vote for President Obama, things are getting better.
Guest
Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 12:44:29 AM

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i voted other. I'm not voting, i don't have a candidate i can support, and i refuse the shiniest turd in the bowl
JamieW
Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 1:40:51 AM

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I'm In England so I don't really care, But Obama seems to be doing a pretty good job...
ByronLord
Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 7:26:21 AM

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sarah13 wrote:


I'm not sure if I'm reading it right but what you said seems to be the opposite of the truth? More money does not create demand, by printing more money the government would drive demand down and actually depreciate their currency.

drunken


That part is totally uncontroversial, even Romney's 'economists' would agree with that part. More money means more people have the ability to purchase. Reducing interest rates increases the effective money supply because more people can afford to borrow. Right now that does not work because interest rates are at zero.

The reason we are in a mess in the first place is because the banks messed up big time with 100% no documentation mortgages. The banks almost went under and have stopped lending. Which has caused demand to crash. It is slowly coming back to normal.

Ultimately if no party will increase spending, the government has to step in and start spending. In the case of the great depression it was ultimately ended by the massive increase in spending for WWII.

Europe is in trouble because the idiot ideologues in their governments are more attached to the Euro than their economies. The only way to save the Euro is with an austerity program but that is killing their economies. It is like prescribing a starvation diet as a cure for anorexia. Overeating will make you fat of course, but undereating is also bad for you.

Oh and one feature of the Greek economy that nobody seems to mention as a cause of their crisis is their vast increase in military spending over the ten years leading up to their crash. I guess that does not fit the model of 'profligacy' which only ever applies to welfare and never to corporate welfare or to militarism.

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Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 7:51:29 AM

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President Obama!
naughtynurse
Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 8:04:15 AM

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Well, here's the thing. I would have loved to voted for Gary Johnson on the real thing. I would have too. But, I live in a very important swing state and I wanted to make sure the candidate who expresses my personal pet issues won so....

FYI: In the Lush world I would expect Obama by a landslide. There is a thread somewhere about political leanings. Most people on here are fairly left.


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clum
Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 8:14:21 AM

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Am I, as a Briton, allowed to vote on this?

Since we don't vote for our head of state in the UK, it's quite interesting to think about. While my natural tendency here would be to vote for the Greens, it seems somewhat redundant in what is a two-horse race. It probably makes more sense to take a "lesser of two evils" approach in order to keep the guy you really hate out.

It's like at home, I vote SNP (although I may change to Greens soon) on the basis that, the more votes they get, the more constituency seats they gain and the better represented they are in parliament. However, if I was voting for PM of the UK, I'd probably vote for Ed Milliband just to keep David Cameron out, despite not really supporting the Labour Party. (This is all as though I'm ignoring the current ongoing debate on Scottish independence, by the way).

I just hope the people of the US get who they deserve as president and that he does a good job for them.

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principessa
Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:18:16 AM

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President Obama and the Democratic ticket everywhere!



sarah13
Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:20:49 AM

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ByronLord wrote:


That part is totally uncontroversial, even Romney's 'economists' would agree with that part. More money means more people have the ability to purchase. Reducing interest rates increases the effective money supply because more people can afford to borrow. Right now that does not work because interest rates are at zero.

The reason we are in a mess in the first place is because the banks messed up big time with 100% no documentation mortgages. The banks almost went under and have stopped lending. Which has caused demand to crash. It is slowly coming back to normal.

Ultimately if no party will increase spending, the government has to step in and start spending. In the case of the great depression it was ultimately ended by the massive increase in spending for WWII.

Europe is in trouble because the idiot ideologues in their governments are more attached to the Euro than their economies. The only way to save the Euro is with an austerity program but that is killing their economies. It is like prescribing a starvation diet as a cure for anorexia. Overeating will make you fat of course, but undereating is also bad for you.

Oh and one feature of the Greek economy that nobody seems to mention as a cause of their crisis is their vast increase in military spending over the ten years leading up to their crash. I guess that does not fit the model of 'profligacy' which only ever applies to welfare and never to corporate welfare or to militarism.



Ahhhh see I wasn't even thinking politically or whatevs, and I think I read it wrong. I was thinking demand for the euro, not demand for products in those countries. Obviously the more money people have the more they spend, but no one wants to see the dollar value plummet. In many ways deflation is worse then inflation. Draghi and the EU are analyzing a lot of things wayyyy above my head to decide whether to buy bonds to save things over there, and as far as whats going on here I wont pretend to know whats up or offer my opinion because it's uneducated and useless. Was just trying to figure out what demand you were referring to.

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1lush
Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:29:34 AM

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I.m sure ready for achange. Romney/Ryan.
Guest
Posted: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:45:40 AM

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Lorenzo1 wrote:
The Green Party all the way. By the way, Roseanne Barr was running for the "nomination" in the Green Party. She lost to Jill Stein.


I just voted. She was on the ballot. Can't remember what party though.
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Romney
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