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Children — No one under age 16 may be depicted in a sexual situation or in a sexual manner. This means participating in sexual activity (including body exploration and masturbation), witnessing it, making mention of it, hearing references to it, or being referred to in any sexual way whatsoever. No sexual arousal, inadvertent or otherwise, or sexual activity of any sort (groping, covert touching, sly attempts at it, etc.) is allowed while children are present. Any risk that children might witness sexual activity must be excluded. Children may be included as characters in a story only if all the above stipulations are met.
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Hang on, now I'm confused. Slipperywhenwet2012 says quote, "No. There should be no mention of naked persons under the age of 16."
Liz's reference to children contradicts that. Bottom line: "Children may be included as characters in a story only if all the above stipulations are met."
So then I read that as saying I can make reference to my daughter 14, My naked daughter stood before me. "What time are leaving Dad, I have to get dressed."
or words to that effect. No sexual reference here. I don't see that as improper, or violating the T&C. Comments please
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Hang on, now I'm confused. Slipperywhenwet2012 says quote, "No. There should be no mention of naked persons under the age of 16."
Liz's reference to children contradicts that. Bottom line: "Children may be included as characters in a story only if all the above stipulations are met."
So then I read that as saying I can make reference to my daughter 14, My naked daughter stood before me. "What time are leaving Dad, I have to get dressed."
or words to that effect. No sexual reference here. I don't see that as improper, or violating the T&C. Comments please
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Lolita is (in my opinion) a well-written erotic story containing a central character who is twelve years of age. I can buy it on Amazon and in almost any reputable bookshop. Bearing that in mind, I think it wise to avoid dubious law enforcement issues and avoid also watering down your point with references to artistic considerations. It's against the site's T & C and so that's it.
In my opinion (though it is worthless as I am powerless):
The word 'naked' could surely be taken from that sentence. If it can't then I would suspect some sexual implication or intention. It may (I haven't read the story, sorry. Yes, perhaps I should. Maybe I will...) foreshadow later events where nakedness is sexual and where the reader is reminded of this (seemingly/apparently) important moment between father and naked daughter.
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Lolita is (in my opinion) a well-written erotic story containing a central character who is twelve years of age. I can buy it on Amazon and in almost any reputable bookshop. Bearing that in mind, I think it wise to avoid dubious law enforcement issues and avoid also watering down your point with references to artistic considerations. It's against the site's T & C and so that's it.
In my opinion (though it is worthless as I am powerless):
The word 'naked' could surely be taken from that sentence. If it can't then I would suspect some sexual implication or intention. It may (I haven't read the story, sorry. Yes, perhaps I should. Maybe I will...) foreshadow later events where nakedness is sexual and where the reader is reminded of this (seemingly/apparently) important moment between father and naked daughter.
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And can we lose the adverts in here please?
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By the way - I have a book out on Amazon. There's a link on my profile page but I thought more people might see this. (Damn! Yes, it is tempting though, isn't it?)
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Yes, sorry, I understand the signature thingy. I should been more precise: can we lose the adverts from the forum signatures, please? It's tacky, desperate and sad, and, to me, undermines what the person has to say. How can one speak seriously, earnestly and with gravitas and then underline it with a banner to sell some porn one has written? Even here, on a sex story site, it is surely bad taste? Just my opinion.
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Milik said:
"That said, I also respect a persons home when I'm in it, and this home is owned by someone who doesn't wish to be associated with certain types of stories. How can we demand our rights be respected and then curse her for wanting hers to be? I believe in Lush and what it stands for. For that, I'll defend her right to run it her way."
It isn't even about respect. It's about ownership. The owner dictates what the owner wants. It's their space, their time, their money, and their intellectual property. You, as moderators, do as you are told or you are fired (just out of interest, do you get paid or is it an honorary post?), and we, as contributors, follow the rule of law. I'm not being controversial here, merely stating a very reasonable fact. If the rules are don't get on the bus whilst chewing gum, don't be surprised if you are thrown off for doing so; whether the rule is reasonable or not is not for us to decide: we didn't buy the bus.
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Re business model: I didn't know that, didn't realise these were Lush publications, imagined the authors were publicising themselves. If, as you say, they play no part in the 'tackiness', no blame should be placed at their door.
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Thanks for the comments. I sure opened a can of worms here. I asked (and used an example), because I read (here), two conflicting examples from slipperywhenwet and Liz. I have never used, here or anywhere else, any reference to children or child nudity, but as there were differing opinions, I wanted to know, and am entitled to know, as I'm a member and must abide by the T&C, what the situation was with those opinions. I thank you all for clearing that up. And shylass, thanks for your opinion, but I didn't need a spray!
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Mr Milik, your measured response, as usual, does you great justice.
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And I love the 'Nobokov'! It slipped by me on first reading. I like your style!
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I find this thread very interesting. People are talking about how it’s ok to have a character under the age of 16 if there is no sexual activity. I find this not to be true. I submitted a story that started with the characters youth as it was important to the story. There was nothing even remotely sexual until they were of age. In fact, it was published on a site that has a stricter age limit of 18. Lush rejected the story for mentioning people under the age of 16. Even when I pointed out that there was nothing at all sexual it was still rejected. So what is the true rule?
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Thanks for the comments. I sure opened a can of worms here. I asked (and used an example), because I read (here), two conflicting examples from slipperywhenwet and Liz. I have never used, here or anywhere else, any reference to children or child nudity, but as there were differing opinions, I wanted to know, and am entitled to know, as I'm a member and must abide by the T&C, what the situation was with those opinions. I thank you all for clearing that up. And shylass, thanks for your opinion, but I didn't need a spray!
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Mentions of arousal, thoughts of wanting someone under 16 or being under 16 at the time are not allowed. Stories where people are "waiting" for that person to turn 16 are a no-no because it meant that they wanted them before they were 16. Staring in a sexual way or being stared at by someone under 16 isn't allowed. Anything even hinting at anything sexual involving someone under 16 isn't allowed for all the reasons already stated. Simply making the character 16 or over can avoid these issues. .
