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Shylass
Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2013 12:53:05 PM

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Are vegans okay with swallowing semen from humans if they are happy to donate it, or is that against their beliefs?

Technically, sperm are half a potential human, and cannot speak for themselves, and the product itself is usually only got from the (albeit it fun) exploitation of the penis. Just as the owner of dairy cattle can allow people to drink his cows' milk, and a vegan would choose not to, is there no ethical boundary on something even more personal and biologically parts of a human? Or might they fall into two different camps, the liberal vegans who do, and the conservatives who don't?

It just kind of screams hypocritical to my mind if they would swallow semen (and that also raises questions about allowing their babies to drink their mothers' milk). It would say that the exploitation and consumption of human parts is okay, but not from animals. Would it not place humans as lower than animals, not equal?



The all-knowing (!) Wikipedia says this:

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Veganism /ˈviːɡənɪzəm/ is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products, particularly in diet, as well as following an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status of sentient animals. A follower of veganism is known as a vegan.

Distinctions are sometimes made between different categories of veganism. Dietary vegans (or strict vegetarians) refrain from consuming animal products, not only meat but, in contrast to ovo-lacto vegetarians, also eggs, dairy products and other animal-derived substances. The term ethical vegan is often applied to those who not only follow a vegan diet, but extend the vegan philosophy into other areas of their lives, and oppose the use of animals or animal products for any purpose.[1] Another term used is environmental veganism, which refers to the avoidance of animal products on the premise that the harvesting or industrial farming of animals is environmentally damaging and unsustainable.




I have a feeling that the ovo-lacto vegetarians would be okay with it:

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An ovo-lacto vegetarian (or lacto-ovo vegetarian) is a vegetarian who does not eat animal flesh of any kind, but consumes dairy and egg products.




What say you, members of Lush? Are there vegans out there who would like to share their beliefs and practices regarding this?


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Green_Man
Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2013 7:02:33 PM

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It is obvious, of course, that a true, honest Vegan would never suck down anyone's bodily fluids. They will use no animal products or parts what so ever. That is the truth. Neither skin, nor hair, nor flesh, nor milk, nor semen, nor pussy juices would cross their lips. And we humans are but animals of a sort. So there. Hah!!

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sprite
Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2013 7:11:08 PM

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i can't answer as a true vegan - i'm a vegetarian who often eats vegan, but i do like my cheese. that all said, MY reasoning for eating the way i do is two-fold - one, it's healthier. two, i am a bit of an animal rights nut. the swallowing of semen, etc, don't violate either of those ethics, in my eyes, so even if i went pure vegan, i wouldn't have an issue with it.
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Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:07:18 PM

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Green_Man wrote:
It is obvious, of course, that a true, honest Vegan would never suck down anyone's bodily fluids. They will use no animal products or parts what so ever. That is the truth. Neither skin, nor hair, nor flesh, nor milk, nor semen, nor pussy juices would cross their lips. And we humans are but animals of a sort. So there. Hah!!


Sounds to me like true Vegans would have a rather dull sex life...just sayin'



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trinket
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whitestallion1983
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Are vegans more concerned with animal rights or health. The ones I know are for animal rights. So I don't know, but I feel sorry for their men!

What you talking about Willis?
Ruthie
Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2013 10:06:33 PM

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Shylass wrote:
[color=green]Are vegans okay with swallowing semen from humans if they are happy to donate it, or is that against their beliefs?

Technically, sperm are half a potential human, and cannot speak for themselves, and the product itself is usually only got from the (albeit it fun) exploitation of the penis. Just as the owner of dairy cattle can allow people to drink his cows' milk, and a vegan would choose not to, is there no ethical boundary on something even more personal and biologically parts of a human?


I'm not a vegan or a vegetarian. I have no idea what other people are okay with. A dairy farmer allowing someone to drink milk from his cows isn't the same as a man allowing me to drink semen from his cock though. If he kept other men in his pasture and gathered the semen for commercial purposes there might be a similarity in ethics. I would think that a vegan, or an animal rights activist, would say that the cows are not willingly giving their milk to the dairy farmer. I can't read cows minds, so I don't know. I don't think any cow has the capacity to ask a farmer to milk her and sell her milk.

There are some people who draw a line between live food, food like milk and cheese which can be made without killing the animal and meat, which is dead food and requires the animal to die in order for it to be eaten. I'm pretty sure no animals are volunteering to die so that we can eat steak.

I'm sure that not caring about the cow's wishes when I'm eating an ice cream cone makes me a bad person, but I don't care.

As a side comment, those of us fortunate enough to be able to make a decision whether or not to eat meat or dairy shouldn't be judgemental of those whose survival requires them to eat anything they can.
DLizze
Posted: Monday, December 30, 2013 7:28:41 PM

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"As a side comment, those of us fortunate enough to be able to make a decision whether or not to eat meat or dairy shouldn't be judgmental of those whose survival requires them to eat anything they can."

THIS.

There was a time not so very long ago, when I seriously considered killing a squirrel in my back yard. I had eaten only rice for the previous week, and had run out of that, and didn't have any money.

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lafayettemister
Posted: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:35:43 AM

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Ruthie wrote:




As a side comment, those of us fortunate enough to be able to make a decision whether or not to eat meat or dairy shouldn't be judgemental of those whose survival requires them to eat anything they can.


Agreed. Nor should we be judgmental to those who can and do choose to eat or not eat whatever they want. (within legal limits)





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Dancing_Doll
Posted: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:15:53 PM

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I think the choice for vegans is more about avoiding things that are taken from other living things by force or without consent. If a guy willingly provides his semen for consumption, then I can't see a moral issue against it. Ultimately I guess it's up to personal choice, even within the vegan/vegetarian community - some might be ok with it and for those that hate swallowing, this could function as a nice 'get-out-of-jail-free' card. I don't think the vegan community has a stance against cum swallowing though.




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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2014 6:54:11 PM

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Just my opinion, but I don't think they could be against it. Guys grow it inside them.

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DLizze
Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2014 7:22:54 PM

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lafayettemister wrote:


Agreed. Nor should we be judgmental to those who can and do choose to eat or not eat whatever they want. (within legal limits)

Screw "legal limits". When I was considering shooting the squirrel, there was nothing legal about it. I would have been poaching on at least two counts: squirrels were out of season at the time, and I fer damn sure did not have a hunting license. I would have been discharging a firearm within fifty feet of a dwelling. I would have been discharging a firearm within a residential district. I'm sure there must be two or three other laws I'd have been breaking. But damn it, if "legal limits" is what stands between me and hunger, the hunger is gonna win, hands down. (And my bet is it would with anyone else, too)

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does this help?





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