semper ubi sub ubi!

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I say remember, old chap, perhaps you should consulted a "dick"tionary before your next posting.

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nah....Kansans have only been fucked up over the last 30 years or so. before that (native Kansan here) we were quite progressive and rather independent albeit fairly conservative. if we thought a democrat would represent us best, no matter what office, we would elect a democrat. just saying!

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(ahem....in my best hick voice) awwww hell ya, dubyadeefordy will fix ya rat up to greez her coochie and kill yourun swimmers daid! now if'n yor a lookin' to git in her backside alley git you some axel greez fur that thar hole fur yer pole.


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so niceguy93 what should we do? for the last 10 years we have tried not just doing nothing we have done worse than nothing! do you realize that you can sue mcdonalds for serving a hot cup of coffee that you spill in your own lap, ford for when you get in an accident and get hurt, a bar for serving you drinks and then you drive home drunk? but can you sue a gun or ammunition maker? nope - congress passed a law against that. we have the atf that controls alcohol, tobacco and firearms but that agency has been but handcuffed by congress as well. many laws that have been passed to try and control guns in any small way are often gutted, gelded and emasculated by.....yep congress!

the very institution that is supposed to be passing laws that protect all of us but has bent over backwards to pave the way for gun and ammunition makers to act with impunity to make a profit from death and instruments of death. not just sporting or hunting or collecting type of manufacturing, no sir. I am talking about the kinds of weapons that no one would use for hunting or skeet shooting not models that you could collect that are authentic in every detail save that they have been rendered unable to discharge obscene amounts of ammunition per minute. I am talking about instruments of war meant to cause as much death and destruction and mayhem in as short a time as possible. I am talking about ammunition that is designed to stop anything and not be stopped by petty human or even vehicle armor. I am talking about weapons and ammunition that no private citizen has any reason nor right to own no matter how idiotically you look at the second amendment. no matter how badly you want to twist the words of the founders of this country. no matter how much you listen to the out-of-touch fear mongering assholes of the gun lobby groups who ridiculously say we need those type of weapons to defend ourselves in case of any number of cataclysmic doomsday warnings involving a take over of the government.

all I can ask is what the FUCK us wrong with you idiots? we have been trying worse than nothing and when mass shootings happen we mourn, wring our hands, cry, decry the evil people among and then..........forget about it. UNTIL IT HAPPENS AGAIN! the very definition of insanity, trying the same thing over and over expecting different results, is what we have been living! the time has come and is even long past due that we take back the gun control argument from the gun lobby and gun and ammunition manufacturers and reframe it so that we are at least trying to make our society safer.

WE MUST DO SOMETHING! we finally have a presidential administration with balls enough to step up and do just that. I say hurrah! I say it is way past time! I say we stand behind what is proposed and make sure we pass and enact safer and saner gun control laws! what has been put in motion is a good start.

finally, the only thing being banned are the obscene instruments of death and destruction - automatic, military style assault weapons and uncalled for large volume ammunition magazines. period. that's it. no one is calling for an absolute ban on guns. no one is coming to take away your precious guns (cue the hobbit clip with golloum - yesssssss, my precioussssssssss!) and no one is saying this will put an end to every single gun related death in America - to do so would be foolish. even with current safty measures in our cars we still have traffic fatalities. but we have far fewer than we did even though there are more cars on the road. even with current laws about drinking and driving we still have idiots that get behind the wheel drunk. but, again, the laws we have passed have worked at significantly reducing those incidents and the fatalities that occur.

so I say again, WE MUST DO SOMETHING!

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not my cup of pee!

okay, for all of those who have used the old adage in this post or ever in thier lives that says, "guns don't kill people. people kill people"...wow! really? you have merely demonstrated that you have a firm grasp of the obvious !

now for those who have a brain...prohibition has never been a vialble answer in any civilized society. We proved it with alcohol back in the day and we are proving it again with drugs. civilized people rely on laws that are well thought out and reasoned and then implemented well. human nature dictates that to remain civilized we have to have laws. the gun laws we have...and i will say this plainly and slowly for everyone... DO NOT WORK ! we need to bitch slap the bullies that are the nra and gun lobbyists down and step up and craft gun laws that will allow the good folks who are hunters, sportsmen, collectors, etc. to rightfully pursue their hobbies while keeping the numbers of guns and ammunition down and harder to obtain for just any one to stroll in off the street and purchase. by the way, did you hear that michigan was a whisker away from passing laws that would have not required any background checks whatsoever to purchase guns? yep, and then the connecticut shootings happened and cooler, wiser and reasonable people thought that maybe that might not be such a good idea! unfortunately that did not happen with those stupid so called 'right-to-work' laws that were passed. (did they pass the law prohibiting sharia law in michigan? it, by the way, was written by a genius who still thinks that president obama is secret muslim and that getting the US of A to adopt sharia law is on his second term agenda...yeah...hey you elected him!)

finally, if you are thinking that when this country was young and there were no gun control laws things were better - well you need to have another think on that! there was never ever a time when the majority of people walked around packing a six-shooter strapped to thier hip...except in the make-believe world of the old west movies, that is! even then it did not take long for growing frontier towns to realize how dangerous it was to allow people to walk around town with guns. especially if they were young, foolish, and had spent any time at the local saloon! most of those towns enacted their own gun control laws which said that you best check those guns at the bar or the sheriffs office when you ride into town or you'll get throwed in the poky!

all i have ever advocated for was safe and sane and enforceable gun control laws that are not influenced or written by the nra or gun and ammunition manufacturers.

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this is how i see it, kids. for many years now we have followed fairly lax control laws in the usa. the results of this are horribly on display today. there is a very small group that i call the right to bear arms screamers - any time anyone brings up 'gun control' these people scream about their rights getting trampled on, they scream about government wanting to take away their guns, they scream that the best way to stop this would be to arm everyone (yes, this is true, the head of the nra said that the woman who was killed in kansas city would be alive now if she would have had a gun and many commented that the shootings in the colorado theatre would have ended sooner had patrons there also been armed!) they scream and scream and scream - veins standing out in their necks and foreheads, spittle flying, not willing to listen and never willing to compropmise.

now we as a nation are living proof of the definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over and over again expecting different results.

there have to be safer and saner rules, laws, and regulations that we can put in place that will make us safer. we have to try. we have to stop allowing the screamers from dictating the public discourse. we have to stop the big money nra lobby dictating the gun laws. we have to stop greed from dictating everything.



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lush admins: we need a stoopid filter on the forums.

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