Forum posts made by magical_felix

From the ARTICLE you seem to have missed as Nikki's post:

"...photos that some freshman girl s took of themselve s ..."

There was no teen "girl". Singular. There was more than one: plural. Girls.


...anyway, we've hijacked the thread long enough for our own little pissing match.

Sorry folks!

So there was more than one victim... What difference does that make? Is your argument now that I didn't make girl plural? Okay.

Oh, so you CAN actually see the obvious and reason for yourself fairly well then?

Good to know. You really oughta try applying that to ALL things in life.

The teen girl in question wasn't a model...

Nikki's post WAS the fucking article!

It's a magical, whimsical little technique called COPY & PASTE.

...and you just dropped down Wiki? Seriously? Your argument is Wiki based?

Felix... who ARE you?

Okay then I read the article because I read her post...

And Wiki did a good job of describing slut shaming... Do you disagree with what it said? Tell me what they got wrong.

Is this your daughter..?.. The one you don't even have and of course would NEVER grow-up to be the self advertising DIRTY girl that you posted in another forum?

...a girl who is obviously being abused by you and many others for having this picture repeatedly posted on the internet when she was just sitting down and resting her poor tall sock clad legs.





She's a model...

Wrong. I was only making the point that THEY (did you even read the fucking article?!?!) THEY- as in more than ONE GIRL... THEY were just as in the wrong, if not even MORE in the wrong then the boy.

...I also repeatedly made the argument that the whole thing is fucking ridiculous, and blown out of proportion.

There is no link to the article... I read Nikki's post.

Slut shaming

Sure sounds like a lot of slut shaming going on in this thread.

..and you seriously earn another huge FUCK YOU for your sanctimonious fucking fathering assertions about how "your daughter would never..." and how "your son wouldn't be such a..."


You shithead, parenting is SO fucking easy from the sidelines, huh?

You're only 24... You don't have 14 year old children either. And yes, I am pretty confident in that a son of mine would never do that.

You know, I've always enjoyed and respected your posts, but you just took a wrong turn with me.

Fuck you.

Nothing I said even remotely puts me in the same category as assholes like that.

...and as for your son not being that type of individual: great! I think many would argue with you against even having that harsh of an opinion about the boy in question to begin with.

How about this though, daddy dearest..?.. Would your precious, innocent and obviously pristine princes & princesses even DREAM that their dear sweet father, pillar of the family in all things moral, right, and good be on such an illicit site as this which contains such topics as cheating spouses, taboo relations... GASP! INCEST?!?!

...and would they even imagine that you'd be capable of such stories as the taboo tales you've written or even OH MY GOD!!! the RELUCTANCE (thinly veiled damn near RAPE FUCKING SEQUENCE) you've written?!?!?!

So, fuck you again - you judgemental, hypocritical motherfucker.

I dont have a family... If I did I wouldn't be on lush, I am pretty certain of that. You misread what I wrote about that. The sequence in my reluctance story is with adults. I don't write about incest either, that disgusts me in many ways and to be honest, incest in the real world is usually rape. But anyway, I am a single man.

And I am just replying to what you are saying. This whole time you took to defending the boy and slut shaming the girl.

The world is filled with pimps and hoes
We'll just talk about those I knows
The world is mine, can't you see
I'm just trying to be all I can be

But you forget that she willingly sent the pictures in the first place... a crime in itself. Sure, if you want to charge the others for what happened after that, I can see that logically. But to dismiss the fact that what started it was in itself a crime, is IMO just not right.

If it is a crime for a woman to take off all her clothes (willingly) in the middle of the street, and she was then sexually assaulted, does the fact she was assaulted negate her FIRST choosing to break the law herself? I would present that it does not. Charge each according to what law they broke. To include the female who first stripped naked in public. She is ONLY a victim of the crimes committed against herself, but NOT innocent of the crimes she herself committed.

The same is true in this case. The girl was guilty of committing an offense which actually gave the others the "things" to commit the offense(s) they committed. She is not simply a "victim", but in fact, committed a crime herself. She holds duel status.

And with that... I will do my best to step back and just let folks chat. I don't think I can add anything further that will be of benefit.


Her crime was to trust a boy she probably liked with her body and he punished her for it.

Yeah a woman is breaking the law by walking around naked but that in no way means she is asking to get raped. What the fuck... Teach young men that abusing women is wrong instead of teaching young women that if they are sexually abused they must have been doing something wrong and that's why it happened.

...and Felix, I believe you said you are a father with a daughter. I respect that, and absolutely agreed with a lot of your SENTIMENTS about this in regards to the girls.

...so now imagine that boy was your SON. Do you really blame an idiot 15-17 year old boy for getting giddy and immediately taking advantage of the surprise, unsolicited pics some girls took and sent to you as a joke (which is how the incident has been described), and then making the bonehead move to post 'em on your Instagram account to show off whatta badass player you are since hotties are showing you tits?

I'd slap my son upside the head for being a fucknut, but I would label him as abusive, predatory, or even particularly deceitful.

He was just an idiot kid for a moment and -SHOCKER!- let his cock do the thinking.

My son wouldn't be that stupid, disloyal, untrustworthy, predatory or deceitful because what that boy did is all of those things. A girl liked him enough to share her body and he goes and does that... What a piece of shit.

And you know what... You do sound like you are saying she was asking for it. You sound like those guys that defend the rapists because the girl was wearing skimpy clothes in a bad part of town or she got drunk at the club and was rubbing on guys so she was asking for it. Disgusting.

I agree with what you are saying and the BF who shows his friends and uses them against her should be punished. But should the girl be labled a sex offender. Because if they are or should be, HS will be filled with sex offenders because a lot of this is happening in schools today. Im not condoning it, just asking is it a reason to ruin some kids life because they are stupid?

You get caught stealing and pay the consequences. As a minor, maybe community service and its gone when your 18.Not pleasent but like you said, Big Whoop!! But a Sex Offender tag for life? Little extreme for being sending a pic of YOURSELF!!

I dont think the girl should be punished at all. Just the guy. In my mind she is a victim in the same way a 15 year being groped against her will by a 17 year old would be. The girl shouldn't be punished but the guy most certainly should be. He crossed over when he mentally abused her, possibly affecting her for life when he exposed her body to her peers. I also think the guy should carry that label until he is 18 just like other crimes committed by teens. That is all I'm saying. Not for life.

Victim? What VICTIM? SHE, actually THEY took the pics themselves and willingly sent them to the boy, who also sounds as if he was underage at the time. So, there's even an argument for the GIRLS to be the "abusive" ones for exposing such a fragile, young, and innocent underage boy to such pornographic images!

The only thing the girls are a victim of is being naive/retarded about their pics being "safe" to send and never seen again.

Do I sound ridiculous yet? GOOD! the whole thing is!

I actually understand the THREAT the Law Enforcement Agency gave. It gave a deadline for the images to be deleted, as the girls originally thought they would have been, and then that's the end of it. I don't think the kids should be prosecuted for Child Porn, but yeah... NOW if they keep the images, after being informed of the law and the consequences, then definitely move forward with the charges.

You don't think the boy victimized her when he spread the pics around to her classmates? Yeah okay... I guess since she was dumb enough to send them it's her fault huh?

I agree that the guy who posted them on the internet should face the consequences. He know what he was doing was wrong. But as far as kids sending pics to kids via text, especially on a site that claims they will automatically be deleted shortly after they are received, well to me that is not Child Pornography. but maybe its time for the kids parents to do their jobs as parents and talk to their kids about the consequences of what they did and how a "harmless" action can become serious when someone slimeball does what this other kid did.

But child porn laws are very interesting. A 14yo girl can be charged with distributing child porn if she texts a naked pic of herself to he BF. But can she be charged with possession of child porn if she takes a naked pic of herself and has it on her phone?

As for sex offender labels, are al registered sex offenders the same or are there classes of sex offenders? Is a kid who sends a naked pic to a friend rated the same as a child rapist? Or a guy who took a leak in public and was seen by a child?



I think the laws are harsh because not every parent or every child thinks about the consequences of doing stupid shit. You know that a 15 year old boy WILL show those pics to friends. Would you want a 14 year old daughter of yours sending pics like that to her 15 year old BF no matter how mature you think he is? You know he will eventually use them against her in some way. Kids don't listen to parents, the law either really but it is there to protect them. Sometimes the law will scare a kid more than parents will. If my parents caught me stealing... Big whoop, I'll take my punishment, whatever... Getting arrested tends to scare your ass straight. Letting this kid get away with what he did could give him the balls to keep doing it, to maybe do something worse in the future and leave more victims behind.

In Nevada the punishment for weed is really ridiculous too. Like years in prison I think. Or that's what it was. Guess what, I DO NOT fuck around with weed in nevada. The punishment doesn't fit the crime but it sure makes me not want to test my luck.

If the girl willingly took the picture and sent it, she was not the victim at that point and should be charged with the same crime others are. Those who took the pictures and spread them around may have made her a victim of THAT, but not of the initial offense.

That's what I said.

If it's a crime then give him a punishment that fits that crime. Having him register as a sex offender, ruining his entire life and any chance of future good employment doesn't help anyone. He's not, from what I read above, some predatory monster. Likewise, the girl that sent nude pictures of herself on the internet has to know there's a good chance that image is going to go further than she intended.

Not all nudity and sex crimes means a person is a pervert/rapist/pedophile/whatever. For instance, I recall some girl in Michigan (i think) sent topless pics of herself to a boyfriend. She was charged with child pornography, for possessing her own topless pics.

Do the kids deserve some sort of punishment for what happened? Yeah, probably. But now a lifelong tag that will prevent them from having any future.


edit.. according to a NY CBS affiliate....

Board of Education officials said the photos include “real or simulated sex acts,” including “naked” or “semi-naked” students — both male and female.

edit #2


14 yr old charged with child porn after posted nude pics of herself

Yeah I know. That's why I said until they are 18 like other crimes. I don't think there is a crime committed when two underage people do things of a sexual nature. But I do think that there was a crime committed when they guy betrayed her trust and posted them on the internet and everyone in the school had them. That will probably affect that girl for some time. Probably affect her in a similar way as abuse affects people in a life long way.

Then so should the girl who originally sent the images. Right? She too broke the law and should suffer the consequences, right?



She's the victim...

Another thing that is a hot button for me is when someone calls a person a pedophile because they are attracted to teenage girls/boys. Um, that is NOT what a pedophile is! Would I call them a "child molester"? In many cases, I would. But Pedophile? NOPE! If they have the body of an adult (not pre-pubescent), it is not pedophilia. We can pretty much agree that the act should not happen (or others may not agree, whatever) but the TERM used should fit the act, not some ignorant PC notion and desire to label people.



Sound like the "she may have been 16 but she was all woman defense." What the fuck...




I also think in most cases of underage sex, we need to keep the Government and Law Enforcement OUT OF IT... when it is not rape (forced unwilling sex). And let PARENTS deal with it in their own way. Like they USED to do. ;)

Kids don't make good choices. Neither do parents of kids that make a bad choice like this. Dad's tend to get really pissed off when this happens to their daughters. I know I would.

I've seen something like this happen before, and it's totally stupid. The whole sex offender thing is being watered down so much that it doesn't mean anything anymore. Just because something is about sex or has nudity doesn't make it automatically make it illegal or offensive. Fucking stupid to lump some teenager showing off her tits in the same category as a rapist. Dumb dumb dumb.

Umm... Yes it does if it involves 14 and 15 year olds... The guy that spread them around did something illegal and he knows it. There should be consequences just like when kids commit other crimes that tend to go off their record once they are 18. If I had a daughter, I would want to know what this young guy has done before he hangs out with one of my kids. Just because they are kids doesn't mean laws shouldn't apply to them. The guy didn't know that posting nude pictures of underage girls on the internet was illegal? Bullshit. It's a crime of a sexual nature and he should pay the price for his stupidity.

What's the difference between a person that is so fat that they are disabled and a person that went rock climbing, slipped, fell and got paralyzed? The rock climber was doing something unnecessary. Something that was purely for fun just like an obese person that eats too much to fill some void in their lives.

They both did it to themselves... But I am sure no one would jump on the paralyzed rock climber and say that they don't deserve the disabled label or help because, hey, they did it to themselves.

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"No it's not I promise"
"Wouldn't it be good if it was true?")

Im stuck for words
Clocks ticking in my head
With dirty feet I walk these streets
To keep two steps ahead

Breathin, in
To taste the clouds
Let me slip away
And fade into the crowd

I want to evaporate
And be embraced by air
I want to be water
And flow without a care

I can feel it, someones coming
I can feel the weight of their eyes
Whispering, so softly as they sing

(oh...)

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We're only young and naive still
We require certain skills
The mood it changes like the wind
Hard to control when it begins

The bittersweet between my teeth
Trying to find the in-betweens
Fall back in love eventually
Yeah yeah yeah yeah

Can't help myself but count the flaws
Claw my way out through these walls
One temporary escape
Feel it start to permeate

We lie beneath the stars at night
Our hands gripping each other tight
You keep my secrets hope to die
Promises, swear them to the sky

The bittersweet between my teeth
Trying to find the in-betweens
Fall back in love eventually
Yeah yeah yeah yeah

As it withers
Brittle it shakes
Can you whisper
As it crumbles and breaks
As you shiver
Count up all your mistakes
Pair of forgivers
Let go before it's too late
Can you whisper
Can you whisper
Can you whisper
Can you whisper

The bittersweet between my teeth
Trying to find the in-betweens
Fall back in love eventually
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
The bittersweet between my teeth
Trying to find the in-betweens
Fall back in love eventually
Yeah yeah yeah yeah

Actually not.

Match.com exists for the purpose of getting people together, coffee shops do not. There is thus a duty of care and an expectation that Match.com would employ reasonable precautions to mitigate the risk of attack. Including warning people to meet in a public place, filtering out those reported as abusers, etc.

There is a duty of care but I don't think it is an unreasonable one or one that Match.com would have any difficulty meeting. They have serious people who are serious about safety. And their underwriters will make sure that they are taking reasonable steps before issuing their E&O policy.

So it is not a frivolous suit by any means. Whether she will win is another matter.

If I was working for Match.com or advising them I would be looking to keep a tight reign on the lawyers to STOP them from arguing that there is no duty of care because the whole value proposition of Match.com is based on the idea that there is.

But they do do that... All these sights have tons of online safety articles.

Happy Birthday!

If you are born a man you should not be able to fight women. They don't allow it in the olympics for a reason. I think it's kinda ridiculous to be honest. They are men.

That is like someone suing a coffee shop if they meet someone there that later assaults them. It doesn't make sense. I don't think match should put a disclaimer about dates being potentially dangerous either. That is just common sense. It's nerve racking enough to meet someone from online, a huge disclaimer saying "1 in 50 dates ends in attempted murder" will probably dry up the company's business.

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You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you?
People'd call, say, "Beware doll, you're bound to fall"
You thought they were all kiddin' you
You used to laugh about
Everybody that was hangin' out
Now you don't talk so loud
Now you don't seem so proud
About having to be scrounging for your next meal.

How does it feel
How does it feel
To be without a home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?

You've gone to the finest school all right, Miss Lonely
But you know you only used to get juiced in it
And nobody has ever taught you how to live on the street
And now you find out you're gonna have to get used to it
You said you'd never compromise
With the mystery tramp, but know you realize
He's not selling any alibis
As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
And say do you want to make a deal?

How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?

You never turned around to see the frowns on the jugglers and the clowns
When they all and did tricks for you
You never understood that it ain't no good
You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you
You used to ride on the chrome horse with your diplomat
Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat
Ain't it hard when you discover that
He really wasn't where it's at
After he took from you everything he could steal.

How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?

Princess on the steeple and all the pretty people
They're drinkin', thinkin' that they got it made
Exchanging all kinds of precious gifts and things
But you'd better lift your diamond ring, you'd better pawn it babe
You used to be so amused
At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used
Go to him now, he calls you , you can't refuse
When you ain't got nothing, you got nothing to lose
You're invisible now, you got no secrets to conceal.

How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?

Beautiful and controlling.

Ha, I never win anything!! That's awesome!!!

Thanks ever so much, I'm really chuffed!

Well done to the others and everyone who took part!

xxx

Nice going Mazza!

You just take her to the swinger party and let her start to realize what is happening. When the girl you get starts to hang on you and your wife starts to look you with a puzzled face laced with anger, you start to fondle this new chick. Hopefully the new chick's man will cut your wife off from beating you and at that moment you look her right in the eye and say. "Don't fuck this up for me bitch." She will probably be pissed at you and fuck the guy out of spite. Hopefully he is good and she likes it kinda. SO now you fucked some strange and your wife fucked around too so she won't be able to say shit. Mission accomplished.