Forum posts made by principessa

Topic Can Romney/Ryan get elected?
Posted 14 Oct 2012 15:43

sorry double post

Topic Can Romney/Ryan get elected?
Posted 14 Oct 2012 15:40

Sometimes I am left speechless by the thoughtful discourse in this thread.

It actually makes Fox News seem fair and balanced. Irony intended.

Topic Can Romney/Ryan get elected?
Posted 14 Oct 2012 14:10

Since people are posting interesting opinion columns, I thought I would add this one from "The New Yorker".

Of Babies and Beans: Paul Ryan on Abortion
By Adam Gopnik

Watching the political debates this season always puts this writer, perhaps irresponsibly, in mind of seventies movie comedies: Romney seems like the smug country clubber in a hundred National Lampoonish movies, the one Chevy Chase takes the girl away from, while Paul Ryan last night seemed exactly like the authority-pleasing, solemn student-body president who either gets pantsed midway by the stars of “Porkys” or else blissfully turned on to grass in the final reel by Bill Murray. Joe Biden watching Ryan, meanwhile, put me in mind of nothing so much as the great, grouchy, aged Eddie Albert in Elaine May’s matchless original, “The Heartbreak Kid,” narrowing his eyes in disbelief as he listens to the slick, oleaginous (and already married!) Charles Grodin courting his beautiful blond daughter: “ I heard everything you said… and I will tell you, quite honestly, I was very impressed. Very impressed. And I think I can also say, quite honestly… I have never heard such a crock of horseshit in my life.”

But beyond the horseshit something genuinely disturbing and scary got said last night by Paul Ryan that is, I think, easily missed and still worth brooding over. It came in response to a solemn and, it seemed to some of us, inappropriately phrased question about the influence of the Catholic Church on both men’s positions on abortion. Inappropriately phrased because legislation is made for everyone, not specially for those of “faith.” (And one would have thought that, at this moment in its history, the Catholic Church would not have much standing when it comes to defining the relationship between sexual behavior and doctrinal morality. However few in number the sinners might be, the failure to deal with them openly casts doubt on the integrity of the institution.)

Paul Ryan did not say, as John Kennedy had said before him, that faith was faith and public service, public service, each to be honored and kept separate from the other. No, he said instead “I don’t see how a person can separate their public life from their private life or from their faith. Our faith informs us in everything we do.” That’s a shocking answer—a mullah’s answer, what those scary Iranian “Ayatollahs” he kept referring to when talking about Iran would say as well. Ryan was rejecting secularism itself, casually insisting, as the Roman Catholic Andrew Sullivan put it, that “the usual necessary distinction between politics and religion, between state and church, cannot and should not exist.” And he went on to make it quietly plain that his principles are uncompromising on this, even if his boss’s policy may not seem so:

All I’m saying is, if you believe that life begins at conception, that, therefore, doesn’t change the definition of life. That’s a principle. The policy of a Romney administration is to oppose abortion with exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother.

Our system, unlike the Iranians’, is not meant to be so total: it depends on making many distinctions between private life, where we follow our conscience into our chapel, and our public life, where we seek to merge many different kinds of conscience in a common space. Our faith should not inform us in everything we do, or there would be no end to the religious warfare that our tolerant founders feared.

Ryan then went on to say something oddly disarming in its inherent lack of self-awareness. He talked about how, looking at a first sonogram of his daughter, he was thrilled by the beating heart in the tiny “bean” on the image, so much that he and his wife still call that child “Bean.” As someone who is not often accused of being indifferent to the joys of fatherhood, I recognize the moment—and in fact still have that same early ultrasound picture, two of them. But Ryan’s moral intuition that something was indeed wonderful here was undercut, tellingly, by a failure to recognize accurately what that wonderful thing was, even as he named it: a bean is exactly what the photograph shows—a seed, a potential, a thing that might yet grow into something greater, just as a seed has the potential to become a tree. A bean is not a baby.

The fundamental condition of life is that it develops, making it tricky sometimes to say when it’s fully grown and when it isn’t, but always easy to say that there is a difference and that that difference is, well, human life itself. It is this double knowledge that impacts any grownup thinking about abortion: that it isn’t life that’s sacred—the world is full of life, much of which Paul Ryan wants to cut down and exploit and eat done medium rare. It is conscious, thinking life that counts, and where and exactly how it begins (and ends) is so complex a judgment that wise men and women, including some on the Supreme Court, have decided that it is best left, at least at its moments of maximum ambiguity, to the individual conscience (and the individual conscience’s doctor). The cost of simplifying this truth is immense cruelty—cruelty to the bean when, truly developed, it becomes a frightened teen-ager who is to be compelled by law to carry her unwished-for pregnancy through with all the trauma that involves. This kind of cruelty—cruelty to real persons, killing the infidel in order to hasten him into heaven, stoning the fourteen-year-old girl in pursuit of some prophet’s view of virtue, forcing the teenager to complete her pregnancy to fulfill a middle-aged man’s moral hunches—is the kind of cruelty that our liberal founders saw with terror.

Ryan talked facilely of what “science” says in this case. But what real science has to tell us, of course, very different; it says that life has no neat on and off, that while life may in some sense begin at conception, the moment when the formed consciousness that distinguishes human life from bean life arises is a very different question, not reducible to a dogma or a simple claim. A bean isn’t a baby; a baby was once a bean, and between those two truths it is, or ought to be, every woman for herself.

What is unquestionable is that the kind of fully conscious life that everyone claims to prize already belongs to the woman who happens to be pregnant, and it should be her individual moral conscience that, in a society devoted to the individual, ought to rule. One reason we prize life is because it makes minds. And women, who have them, should be free to make up their own.

Topic World around you in two words
Posted 14 Oct 2012 12:42

brisk autumn

Topic Religion, Bad or Good?
Posted 12 Oct 2012 11:52

I do not object to religion, just any form of it that is extreme whatever the denomination. I object to Muslims like the Taliban who recently shot a young girl for going to school and encouraging other girls to do the same, I object to Catholics imposing their views on abortion, birth control and other issues on the rest of us, I object to Orthodox Judaism and any other religion that holds women in a less than equal status. I object to born-again Protestant evangelicals for their influence on the politics of the US, which is supposed to be a democracy not a theocracy.

I object to any religion that is used as a reason to abuse or kill and any creed that says I am less or eternally damned if I am not a member.

If your faith gives you comfort and solace, good for you. But if its institutions do any of the above things, it is not a force for good in the world.

Topic Have you ever taken advice from a song?
Posted 12 Oct 2012 11:40

Not advice, but certainly songs have become thematic of moments and times in my life. I am taken back there whenever I hear them.

Topic Happy Birthday STEPHANIE
Posted 11 Oct 2012 16:00

Is this thread one of your birthday presents???

Topic Happy Birthday STEPHANIE
Posted 11 Oct 2012 15:10

Happy Birthday, Steph. Sorry, I spilled the exact number, but look at it this way. you are eighteen years younger than Keef.

Topic Use My Last Word First - in a 5 word sentence..
Posted 11 Oct 2012 13:45

those that give me pleasure

Topic Last Two Letters ....
Posted 11 Oct 2012 07:28


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Topic Songs that make you go GRRRRR - post songs you dislike here.
Posted 29 Sep 2012 12:54

Uncle Kracker - Follow me

Topic Last Two Letters ....
Posted 29 Sep 2012 12:00


Topic Phrases you wish people would get right
Posted 29 Sep 2012 07:51

You send people your regards (good wishes). When discussing something it is "with (or in) regard to", not the plural.

Topic Alphabet Songs (A-Z)
Posted 26 Sep 2012 15:51

Yesterday - The Beatles

Topic Alphabet Songs (A-Z)
Posted 26 Sep 2012 15:41

Xanadu - Olivia Newton-John

Topic A little game, three truths and a lie post 3 truths and a lie about you and we guess the lie
Posted 26 Sep 2012 12:31

It was late last night...I told three lies and one truth. Embarassed

I am guessing that the lie was about not having had an STD. I think that you have been in love, been heartbroken, and acquiesced in the fiancée thing.

Topic A little game, three truths and a lie post 3 truths and a lie about you and we guess the lie
Posted 26 Sep 2012 12:25


I got it ..didn't I?

p.s. I'm sure you're bi (lingual that is) . I'm quite sure you're blonde (but not that blonde, I got that).
Norway, hum hum blonde... theyyy do go together, hum.
You could have artistic abilities, but I choose this as a lie because of these indirect sugestions: bilingual, Norway and "Out For Dinner".

If I got it, I could have some future with Mr Holmes. Oh phone is ringing already

Sorry, Keoloke, you are no Watson. The lie was Norway.

Topic A little game, three truths and a lie post 3 truths and a lie about you and we guess the lie
Posted 26 Sep 2012 08:25

I am going to guess #3 is the lie.

1. I am bilingual

2. I am a natural blonde

3. I have been to Norway

4. I went to art school

Topic Are you Romantic?
Posted 24 Sep 2012 14:10


Topic Popularity
Posted 23 Sep 2012 09:27

In my view, it is not all about the number of views, votes, or comments. Although, of course, I like to receive positive feedback to my poems and the stories that I write with Alphamagus, when I see the some of stories that get far higher numbers in terms of views, votes and comments, I realize that is not the audience that I write for. Everyone is entitled to their own taste and to read what they enjoy. There are some readers who I am certain would never read my work, and that is not a problem for me. So, bottom line, numbers are not everything. Comments that are positive and thoughtful are meaningful, no matter how many or few there are.

Topic Happy Birthday Her Royal Spriteness!
Posted 23 Sep 2012 09:05

Happy Birthday, Rachel.

Topic Most annoying txt speak
Posted 20 Sep 2012 15:28

Principessa would love to verify that for you, I'm sure. sunny

You bet!!! Just let me at it. Read it

Topic Most annoying txt speak
Posted 20 Sep 2012 14:23

The faces/expressions made out of punctuation marks drive me crazy. Are we all three years old and unable to read words like grown-ups?

This is not cool (or kewl) but symptomatic of the dumbing down of everything in popular culture. It is a deliberate laziness and ignorance that will not lead to anything good. Try applying to a professional school or for an upper level position writing in text speak. I don't think it will make a great impression. Literacy matters.

(I just read what I wrote and understand that I am now officially an old curmudgeon, but I don't take it back.)

Topic Need help with proofing my story
Posted 20 Sep 2012 09:31

A good start would be a post describing your story and what help you need.

I do have some suggestions for you before you hand your story off to someone else. First, read all of the material on grammar, formatting, etc. in the Writer's Resources. Do not rely on spell check alone as you proof your story as it does not catch mistakes that are words producing unfortunate errors like, "he put his hands on my waste". Put in some of your own time and, even if someone proofs it for you, make an effort to learn from your mistakes and the corrections that are made. That is the way to become a better writer.

And the previous post was correct. Please is good manners.

Topic Describe Your Sex Life With A Movie Title...
Posted 20 Sep 2012 09:07

Body and Soul

Topic Can Romney/Ryan get elected?
Posted 19 Sep 2012 18:58

Saddam Hussein was an evil, murdering dictator that deserved to be taken down. However, we invaded Iraq under false pretenses. The evidence for weapons of mass destruction was extremely flimsy at best, based on the eye witness of one unreliable informer. Once there we discovered that there were NO weapons of mass destruction.

I can't believe Bush didn't have someone plant some WMD's in the sand and say we found some. He was and still is so damned arrogant. But hey nothing has changed.

Watch the movie "Fair Game" to see how Bush/Cheney manipulated the situation to start a war over WMD knowing they did not exist. Valerie Plame, a CIA agent was outed by them and Cheney's chief of staff (I believe) Scooter Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice.

Topic Can Romney/Ryan get elected?
Posted 19 Sep 2012 18:51

As Obama continues to wade through eight years of Bush engendered shit, incidentally blocked at every attempted reform by a vindictive Republican congress, Romney and Ryan lie, pander and patently back-flip in an effort to woo America.

Offering platitudes and empty passionless promises, and backed by mega-billion dollar corporations (who REALLY care about ordinary people...) these two men seem to be using soft soap and snake oil in an effort to hoodwink America into selling its soul.

Can they do it?

xx Steph

The real Romney has been outed this week with that video - at home with a country club crowd of rich donors and expressing his disgust for half of the US population not lucky enough to be born to a wealthy family like him. He is clueless about how ordinary people live and struggle and is smug about it.

As the saying goes, he was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple.

Topic Can Romney/Ryan get elected?
Posted 18 Sep 2012 08:57

Now demonstrating his expertise on domestic issues after that wonderful exhibition of his knowledge on foreign affairs. Go Mitt!!!

He has reshuffled his campaign staff. Sure, it is their fault that (quoting the late Ann Richards on Bush I) he was born with a silver foot in his mouth.

This reminds me of the Palin interview last time. Verbatim it was an SNL skit.