Forum posts made by byronlord

Topic I want it deep
Posted 06 Jun 2013 16:15

i can dig it, man - happens to me all the time. rr

They gonna throw you out of the lesbian club if they catch you saying that too loud.

Topic What turns you off immediately?
Posted 04 Jun 2013 13:28

Queen Victoria tattoo on her pussy.

Her labia and slit make up the queen's mouth.

Topic In what spaceship would you travel the universe?
Posted 04 Jun 2013 10:44

Does the TARDIS count? :)

Of course, that would actually be my pick. But nobody had proposed the death star and I couldn't resist.

Topic In what spaceship would you travel the universe?
Posted 03 Jun 2013 20:16

The Death Star of course.

After all, it only had one small technical flaw and that was easily fixed.

Topic What was your first vehicle you owned?
Posted 03 Jun 2013 20:12

First owned was an Austin Maxi from the parents
First I paid for a '72 MGB GT with the chrome bumpers I paid GBP 650 for
First new car a '99 Jaguar XK8 Convertible that I still drive every day.

Topic Punk Chicks
Posted 03 Jun 2013 19:10




omg...i'd so let her take advantage of me.

Me too, threesome?

Topic 2 years after - Do you feel safer?
Posted 03 Jun 2013 17:08



Everybody else is wrong, and only you with your vague assertions - are correct?

http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/ops/afghanistan.htm

http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/01/28/bin-laden-and-the-cia/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/07/10/gordon-duff-classified-cia-transcript-counters-bin-laden-terror-role/

Google: Bin Laden CIA asset - and 12 pages of returns comes up. Many repeat the same basic assertion, often repeated since 2002. Several will insist that the CIA had nothing to do with Bin Laden, I assert that those are CIA plastered websites.

I prefer to believe the 2nd version I've listed above from Alexander Cockburn's site.

But then again, I haven't rubbed shoulders with all the movers and shakers of world politics as you have constantly implied that you have, Forrest.

Try this book http://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Wars-Afghanistan-Invasion-September/dp/0143034669

The fact that people repeat a claim does not make it accurate. The story of how Bin Laden became involved in Afghanistan was reported at the time. His role was not a secret.

The Global Security piece you quote backs my claim. The only reference made to Bin Laden is quoting administration and CIA sources denying a link. The counterpunch piece is obviously a polemic written by someone without first hand or even second hand knowledge and he is spouting a tin foil hat theory that Bush wanted Bin Laden kept alive so as not to annoy the Saudis. Which is obvious nonsense for reasons I'll get to.

Ask yourself why the man moving the Saudi money into Afghanistan would have any use for more cash? His problem was not having enough people who could make use of what he had.

Bin Laden's change of course came when he came home from Afghanistan. He came home to find himself on the fringes of government circles, not being a member of the royal house and not having a role in the family business. He came to view the Saudi government as corrupted by Western influences. And he came to see the US bases on Saudi soil as a symbol of that corruption, besides which they would make it rather hard for Bin Laden to replace the House of Saud in the coup he began planning.

At the time the counterpunch piece was written, Bin Laden was under a death sentence in Saudi Arabia. He had declared war on the regime before his declaration of war on the US. The idea that Bush would be keeping Bin Laden alive as a favor to the Saudis is ludicrous, they wanted him dead long before 9/11. It was Bush who needed a convenient bogeyman to play off.

Topic 2 years after - Do you feel safer?
Posted 03 Jun 2013 05:22

Bin Laden died @ Tora Bora in December 2001.

Stick that in your tin foil pipe and smoke it.

I didn't feel any more in danger on 09/12/2001 - from Bin Laden than I do now. He was a CIA asset in the 1980s and 1990s. One of the good bad guys or the bad good guys - or what the fuck ever. Why was his entire family allowed to fly out of the USA while the rest of the US domestic air fleet was grounded?

It's the US Government I worry more about than any other individual or government on this planet.

Bin Laden was never CIA your sources are wrong.

When Carter first began discussions with the Saudis on funding the Afghani rebels, the Saudis said they would match the US dollar for dollar. The Saudis needed a bag man to carry the money into Afghanistan. Since no Saudi Prince would do anything so close to actual work Bin Laden got the job.

There was never a reason for the CIA to send money through Bin Laden. They had their own clients.

Topic IRS admits they deliberately harrassed Conservative groups
Posted 03 Jun 2013 04:40


What about the 225 applications that were singled out that weren't from conservative political organizations? Do only liberal and conservative groups count? Ninety groups were conservative, two hundred twenty five were not. Not just conservative groups were asked to justify their tax exempt status.


Political organizations do not get tax exemption but they are not (usually) paying much in the way of taxes because the money they collect as donations goes out as political activity. The only taxes that a political campaign group would be paying would be interest etc.

What this dodge is all about is hiding the origina of vast amounts of cash, over $100 million in the case of Sheldon Adleson, from the public. The reason so many Republican linked groups prefer this dodge is that groups wanting to buy favors tend to see the GOP as easier to buy than the Democrats. Its quite hard for a Democrat to support a plan to build a pipeline to ship toxic oil sludge across the US so that it can be loaded onto ships in Texas and sent off to China. But paid enough money the Republicans will do that for a donor.

Not having to open the books makes it easier to divert funds as well. Ginny Thomas, the wife of a Supreme Court judge gets pait $800,000 a year for 'lobbying' from companies with cases before he husbands court.

Topic IRS admits they deliberately harrassed Conservative groups
Posted 01 Jun 2013 08:28



I agree with much of what you said regarding how these PACS are operated, but right now the law allows this, and the fact remains that the IRS based their actions on affiliation, not action.


Actually the law is very clear that it DOES NOT allow charities to engage in political action.

It was the corrupt conservatives on the Supreme Court who decided that corporations are people and so unlike people can give unlimited contributions to political causes.

Three of those judges are the ones that stole the 2000 election for Bush by stopping the Florida recount and so the only count available was the one made by King George's brother.

Topic 2 years after - Do you feel safer?
Posted 29 May 2013 19:17

Most likely London again. All the crowd did was watch and videotape it. There just as guilty as the 2 men that killed him for doing nothing. It's evident to criminals you can get away with pretty much whatever you want over there considering no ones going to even try to stop them. If the bad guys polite enough they'll stand and have a concersation with him as hes chopping someone up. angry7 it's shameful.

If you go and watch the videos that arent edited a woman walks by him covered in blood
nonchalantly. Sprang even care that he has two knives. That angered me more than the murder.

They also called the police. Calling the police and taking video and doing nothing else is exactly what the London authorities would want people to do in that situation.

They certainly do not want unarmed members of the public trying to apprehend someone who is obviously violent and dangerous.

One woman asked if she could try to save the soldier's life but it was clear he was already dead.

Taking video of a murderer caught red handed would seem to me to be exactly the right thing to do. Armed police arrived promptly and had no difficulty arresting the suspects.

Topic 2 years after - Do you feel safer?
Posted 28 May 2013 18:15



No - the objective of terrorism is to exert your influence over political or other means by threats of violence - either suggested or acted upon.

It is not to make people worry about it . . . seems outright silly to suggest that. How are you to counter act anyone who's trying to do wrong if you're not worried in some slight bit?

Worry breeds awareness, safety and concern.

Seems that what you're wanting to say (perhaps) is that you shouldn't let it dictate your life to an infinitive degree . . . which defaults me into the 'fail' category seeing as how my family is military.

Since someone brought up tin foil hat theories a while back, it seems a good time to point out that I know Joe Nye quite well. He is one of the three chairs of the trilateral commission that gets talked about rather a lot in tin foil hat circles.

Nye is best known for his concept of 'soft-power'. The gist of the idea being that it is impossible to explain the flow of world history by military power alone since most of the time conflicts are settled without war. So there is another ingredient that has to be considered, the US has outsided influence beyond its military capability because of Hollywood and Wall Street and the work fo the State department and so on.

Terrorism is a strategy of groups that are weak in hard power. The whole of Al Qaeda at its peak was barely 300 fighters they have light arms and not much else. Their ability to influence governments comes from soft power - the fear that their attacks on civilians creates.

When I say don't worry I mean that the general public should keep calm and carry on, not that governments should ignore terrorist attacks and do nothing about them. But governments also need to make sure that they act in the right way and that they don't compromise their own soft power by taking actions that are hasty like the disastrous internment order of Ted Heath back in 1971 or the Patriot act or invading Iraq.

Topic 2 years after - Do you feel safer?
Posted 28 May 2013 10:49

Not for one second.

Do you feel less safe now than we were during the cold war when the US and USSR came close to mutual nuclear annihilation a few times?

In the 1970s liberal democracy was limited to former parts of the British empire, countries liberated by the Western powers after WWII and a handful of regimes that mostly lasted only a few years before they were blotted out by military coup. The world was not a safe or secure place either. Pol Pot was murdering millions, the military juntas in South America were murdering tens of thousands and the Soviet Union was a murderous dictatorship.

Today there is only one regime left that is Stalinist, North Korea. NK is the only regime where there is a serious risk of a murder of millions of people or a Mao like mass starvation. There are a handful of brutal authoritarian states but they are all waning in influence. Iran has two friends left, one of which is on the losing end of a civil war, the other is only just emerging from a civil war. Sudan, Saudi Arabia and the Caspian sea region are all pretty ugly but life for most people in the rest of the world is a lot more free than life for black people in the US during the 1960s.

I have lived with the threat of terrorism my whole life. I have not lost any family members but one was targeted in an assassination attempt. Next to the other threats the threat of terrorism is really small.

More people died in Newtown than in all the terrorist attacks in the US this year. More under 6s have died this year because their parents did not keep their guns locked up than died in Newtown.

The whole objective of terrorism is to have a disproportionate effect by making people worry about terrorists. To worry about it is to give in.

Topic IRS admits they deliberately harrassed Conservative groups
Posted 28 May 2013 06:16

There won't be any impeachment over Benghazi. At least any successful impeachment. But I would like to see the IRS be forced to tone way down. They can be used as a weapon against opposition by either party that gains power and have been in the past. I would like to see that possibility taken out of the filthy entangling political equation.

I think the GOP lost control of their Tea Party base long ago. Avoiding impeachment is going to be a big political cost to many in the primaries. Before long they will be telling each other it is not going to be such a disaster.

It is far from clear that anything wrong, let alone illegal happened with the IRS. The Tea Party groups were claiming to be charitable institutions that were not engaged in political activity. It is a matter of public record that Karl Rove's Crossroads 'charity' spent over $100 million on campaign ads in 2012. Damn right there should be investigations. They should investigate any liberal groups who abuse the tax code to conceal donors as well.

A simple way to eliminate the problem would be to require all groups that spend more than $25,000 on political campaign ads to disclose their donors over $1,000 regardless of their tax registration. That would eliminate the incentive to abuse the system.

Lerner was a Bush administration appointee. It is hardly surprising that she would plead the fifth after GOP members of Congress had already demanded she be arrested and charged.

Topic 2 years after - Do you feel safer?
Posted 28 May 2013 05:21


I don't like conservatism any more than the next guy (which, for many, means not at all), but is your whole worldview dependent upon the diabolical, dastardly Republicans and their evil plans? I'm sure you and I could rattle off a similar list of corporations, individuals, and conglomerates that supposedly rule the world and its money*. But at the end of the day, do you really believe that neo-conservatives could or would provide escape for Bin Laden in order to kill him later, in accordance with their political whims? Do you think maybe he was cool with that too, and they all had a few whiskey shots and laughed at the suckers who fell hook-line-and-sinker for the whole "9-11" bit? What a fool he was when they finally shot him, in that case.


Yes, I do believe that they wanted to keep Bin Laden alive:

1) They lied to us all about the invasion of Iraq.
2) The Neo-cons believed that 'real men want to go onto Tehran', i.e. they would invade Iran after Iraq.
3) Bush refused to deploy ground troops at the Tora Bora despite warnings that Bin Laden would escape.

Now we can argue the extent to which this was a desired outcome or merely an outcome that they saw a side benefit to. But they did far worse.

Topic 2 years after - Do you feel safer?
Posted 27 May 2013 15:17

It has now been a bit over 2 years since US special forces eliminated Osama bin Laden. The mastermind behind amongst others the embassy bombing and 9/11 is dead, but the question I wonder is; do you feel safer knowing that Osama bin Laden is dead?


From the point of view of incapacitating Al Qaeda, Al Zawahiri was the more important leader. He was the real brains behind the operation and has a long history going back to a major part in the assassination of Sadat.

From the point of view of winding down the counterproductive war on terror and applying counter terrorism techniques that have proven most effective, I think it was a win. It seems more likely than not that Bin Laden had been allowed to escape the Torra Borra deliberately as he provided a useful pretext for advancing the neo-con crowd's broader imperial ambitions. It would have been much harder to invade Iraq with Bin Laden dead.

The Republicans were certainly very angry after Bin Laden was killed and they certainly put scant effort into doing it themselves. Now that Bin Laden is dead the US can close the remaining idiocies of Bush's misrule. The gulag in Guantanamo for a start.

Back in the 1970s the UK and German both faced a terrorist threat. The UK initially tried the 'Rambo' approach favored by the US post 9/11 and ended up fighting the Catholic community that the troops had originally been sent in to protect. Germany could not apply the same approach for historical reasons and was forced to treat the Baader Meinhof gang as purely a police matter.

By 1974 it was obvious that the German approach was more effective. Northern Ireland went from bad to worse while the Baader Meinhof gang was marginalized and on the run. The UK government formally switched to a policy of decriminalization and the number of deaths due to terrorism dropped to a third year on year and stayed there or lower. It was a big mistake for the US to ever create a special class of political prisoner as the Bush Admin did.

Topic More PC stupidity run amok.
Posted 24 May 2013 11:18


School officials refused to make any comment about the allegations in the lawsuit. As such, the publicly-known facts are tremendously one-sided at this point.


Take a deep breath folks. Many of these issues that seem ridiculous according to the telling of one side turn out to be missing more than a few relevant facts.

There are two ways that a misrepresentation might be involved here. One is that the teacher is lying to us, the other is that the kids lied to the school board in their complaints.

Topic What do you think about Yahoo's acquisition of Tumblr?
Posted 23 May 2013 19:38



You are totally right on that one Byron. That's why I see those stocks in such a temporary light. Buy those stocks cheap when you first notice they are going to move up, and be patient, but not too patient. Unload them when the price is high. Then you've made a tidy profit and got out before you have to eat a big loss.

Yeah, if only I had put $1000 in bitcoin when they were $0.02 each.

Would have made $5 million at current prices.

Of course when bitcoins were $0.02 each there weren't enough to buy $1000 worth.

Topic What do you think about Yahoo's acquisition of Tumblr?
Posted 23 May 2013 19:16



Most of the fee Shhh

Bet I could steal him away for a slightly used R2 unit and a vader helmet.

But $50m is small change next to the opportunity being opened up here. The death of myspace didn't end the availability of easy to use home page sites, it just gave rise to userland, blogger and clones and when those went crappy they turned int Wordpress and then we had Facebook.

People buy these Web properties thinking they are a money making machine like a record label churning out hit band after hit band. What they actually have is a hit band and most times a one hit wonder.

Topic IRS admits they deliberately harrassed Conservative groups
Posted 23 May 2013 19:03

Scott, Lerner was placed on administrative leave. Which is likely as much as the administration can do to her under civil service rules because she is career civil service not an appointee.

I can't see any mention of a promotion. Occasionally the way that someone is dismissed from the career civil service is that they are promoted to an appointed slot. That is how the Clintons got rid of Linda Tripp. They promoted her to an appointed slot and then let the Bush crew can her. They knew Bush would fire her because Tripp had previously been the source that disclosed Bush senior's extra marital affair as president. The reason Tripp was so keen to get tapes on Clinton was that she had failed to nail Bush senior.

Lerner is done as far as working for the IRS is concerned. But she will probably hang on till she gets her full pension rights.

The idea that Issa is going to have her prosecuted for contempt of Congress is rather silly. He does not get to make that decision. The theory that a witness waives their rights by making a statement only goes back to the McCarthy era. It has never been tested in court and nobody particularly wants to try. Forcing her to testify will de facto give her immunity from prosecution.

But it is all nonsense anyway as the GOP has already decided to impeach over Benghazi despite the fact that nobody can explain what Obama is meant to have done that was illegal.

Topic Ladies Only Please: Do You Prefer Circumcised, Uncircumcised Or Don't Care?
Posted 22 May 2013 17:20

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Topic What if real people delivered SPAM to your life?
Posted 21 May 2013 13:42

Oh don't get me started.

When I was involved in various efforts to stop email spam we had lots of industry meetings and round tables trying to tackle the problem.

Guess what every one of them thought it would be 'amusing' to serve...

Topic How Many People Are "The Daily Show with John Stewart" fans?
Posted 19 May 2013 10:22

Someone compiles all news items and decides what we will have access to and always from one viewpoint or another. Consequently and also through experience of lying charlatans such as politicians I have a deep distrust of most media presented items. I also have an inconvenient long memory and this helps to consolidate my attitude. I wouldn't be surprised if this paragon of unbiased presentation and virtue didn't have some nasty skeleton clanking around in the closet. I feel there is a possible degree of hypocrisy when devotees of a site dedicated to sex points fingers at celebrity indulgences.

I have no problem with politicians having an affair or six on the side. They should have given Bill an incentive plan, a nubile virgin to deflower for each month the deficit is cut by x% or is eliminated.

What does infuriate is when the party that has claimed the position of national arbiter of moral standards turns out to be filled with adulterers, homosexuals and whoremongers. I have no problem at all with any of those in itself, it is when they are coupled with hypocrisy and vicious nasty attacks on people who dare to do in public what they are up to in private that they become an outrage.

Newt Gingrich impeached a President for adultery while he was doing the same.

The GOP has been pandering to the religious right for decades now. They have tried to eliminate the right to have a abortion and some of them have been trying to outlaw contraception. They have made their sexual activities fair game.

Topic Things you don't understand even when they're explained to you.
Posted 17 May 2013 15:02

Feedback. As in the loud whining noise you hear when someone's on the radio and they go too near their radio with their telephone, or whatever.

So last week I was at my folk's house and it happened on a phone in on Radio Five Live. My Dad explained to me what did it, but even when he'd told me, I was none the wiser! dontknow

Anyone got any personal examples? And if anyone can explain what feedback is in laymen's terms...

Feedback simply means that a part of the output is going back into the input.

When you place a microphone close to a loudspeaker that is being fed by that microphone, the microphone is going to pick up a very slightly delayed version of its own signal. The amplifier is then going to take that signal, amplify it and feed it into the speakers.

If the microphone is far enough away from the speaker, the feedback sound reaching the microphone will have spread out far enough that it is quieter than the original and there will be a dampening effect.

If the microphone is too close then the oposite will happen and each time the signal is fed back into the amplifier it is going to get louder. After a few thousand cycles (a second or two) the volume will max out whatever the amplifier can produce and you will have a feedback 'howl'. The pitch of the howl will be determined by the delay in the feedback loop and the characteristics of the amp.

Topic Things you don't understand even when they're explained to you.
Posted 17 May 2013 14:50

I still don't get how gravity makes the Earth a sphere, yet an asteroid is a lump of rock. I get that's something to do with mass and that the Earth is big. So what's the smallest thing in the universe that's a sphere?

There is a limit to how big you can build in brick before the force of gravity causes collapse, its about 12 stories which is why New York city skyscrapers have steel framed. Solid rock allows you to build higher but there is a limit there as well. A few miles depending on how steep the sides slope. Hence Mt Everest is the highest spot.

There are other factors involved. The majority of the earth is actually molten due to the decay of uranium isotopes in the core and mantle. So most of the earth is actually liquid.

Pluto is only just big enough for gravity to squash it into a rough sphere.

The earth is also a squashy sphere because the rotation on its axis causes a bulge at the equator.

The cores of Jupiter and Saturn are smoother spheres because the force of gravity is much stronger.

Asteroids are by definition not large enough to squash themselves into a sphere. What the astronomers are now calling dwarf planets are things that are midway between the two.

Pluto is still a planet though.

Topic How Many People Are "The Daily Show with John Stewart" fans?
Posted 16 May 2013 20:46

Never heard of him and what's the GOP?

GOP = Guys Oggling Pussy

See the following report on their activities.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/republican-national-committee-spent-2-000-west-hollywood-strip-club-voyeur-article-1.163989

RNC = Really Nice Cocks

Topic How Many People Are "The Daily Show with John Stewart" fans?
Posted 16 May 2013 20:43

How can you not love a guy who totally nails how biased and awful Fox News is?

Erm if you work for Fox News???

What I find rather sad is that he is easily the best journalist on US TV. In the elections he is the only one that actually does an interview and asks hard questions. Part of that is because the politicians can shop round for interviewers and only choose the ones that ask softball questions. Part of that is because the interviewers who pretend to ask hard questions are actually playing gotcha with stupid questions

Jon Stewart is the most trusted name in US news. And he deserves it.

Topic What turns you off immediately?
Posted 16 May 2013 17:31

When I hand over the money and she pulls out her cop badge?

laughing3

When I am just about to cum and she answers a call on her mobile? isjda

Topic IRS admits they deliberately harrassed Conservative groups
Posted 16 May 2013 04:23



For controlling Congress and the media, the Republicans aren't very good at getting the results they desire. If they really controlled all of Congress and the media, then Pres. Obama wouldn't have been elected to two consecutive terms in office. If they controlled Congress, House and Senate... Obamacare would have been tabled, gun control talks would be tabled, abortion related issues would be entirely different, same sex marriage wouldn't even be a possibility. As for scandal, yeah the Republicans are looking for anything they can against Pres. Obama. But, it ain't like he's making it hard to find scandal.


Actually there have been very few scandals compared to previous administrations. Th GOP was faking a new scandal each week during the Clinton admin. And Bush was so corrupt and incompetent that almost everything he did was a scandal. Bush had AGs bring trumped up prosecutions against liberals and sacked AGs who refused to comply.

The GOP was unable to pass their agenda when they held the White House Senate and House though and they don't control Fox News, Fox News and Rupert Moloch control them.

I think that they knew that the IRS thing was going to be a problem for them and they waited till the GOP started peddling the fake Benghazi emails last week. They let the GOP hyperventilate for a week and make fools of themselves before releasing the evidence that the emails were faked. The Benghazi story is over now as far as the mainstream news is concerned.Fox will try to fan the dying embersnl and Glenn Beck will come up with ever sillier theories. But it is over.

Taking off the head of the IRS for lying to Congress might not have ended the tax issue, but given the fools the GOP made of themselves with fake evidence on the Benghazi story, don't expect the news media to be following up further. Again the right wing noise machine will try, but they don't drive the news cycle any more.

Topic IRS admits they deliberately harrassed Conservative groups
Posted 14 May 2013 08:33

Also, with the IRS seemingly targeting Conservative groups, it should be a little bit worrisome that the IRS will be charged with administering Obamacare.

We don't know whether they were only targeting conservative groups.

The political groups were obviously not charities but they were claiming a charitable non-political purpose. Seems suspicious to me.

Were progressive groups being given a pass on this or were the same examiners looking at them as well? That is the question that should be asked.

As far as we know, the Obama DoJ got a warrant for their wiretap on the AP. Bush never got a warrant.

We know that Bush abused the IRS to target progressive groups and to perform warrantless wiretaps on liberals. It would be just as bad if Obama was doing the same thing. But this is why there need to be controls on the use of such powers.

It was the GOP that made any abuses possible by passing the indemnity act to legalize Bush's warrantless wiretap abuses. Now they are in finger point mode.

Maybe we should go back to the old system where people went to jail for committing torture or wiretapping without a warrant? Lets have an investigation of why these alleged abuses were possible.

Lets stick to what we know rather than what we think likely. I think it very likely that when Bush was Governor of Texas he used to jack off while listening to executions. It is exactly the sick sort of thing the little psychopath would do. His fondness for executing people is documented as is his making fun of people he had killed. But I cant prove it so I don't claim that he did.