Forum posts made by elitfromnorth

Topic No private chat
Posted 10 Sep 2012 05:27

Can't speak for everyone else, but in my case, it was my sub who asked for this rule. Since she doesn't like upsetting or annoying people she can find it hard at times to say no to people, so being able to say that she isn't allowed to private chat with people helps take the pressure of her, since it's not up to her in a way.

I have also seen on other sites, not so much here, mentions of some subs being manipulated by people into going into private chats with them. From people using reasons like how 'they'll help the sub better serve their Dom/me' or telling the sub that it is what is expected of them and they shouldn't say no (which I found particularly disgusting to read). Being given the rule that they can't private chat stops this from happening (assuming they follow the rule of course), and like above it means the sub no longer is responsible for that decision, so they shouldn't be able to be guilted of forced into going into these private chats.

I think I can say however that the majority of Dom/mes (the ones I know anyway) who give this rule are ok with the sub private chatting or whispering with friends, so long as they know that the person isn't going to try make the sub to cyber with them.

If the sub asks for the rule then I see it.

But as I saw in the other thread, some gave the rule because they didn't want their sub to cyber with others. Is that really necessary? I feel there's no need to state a rule that extreme to maintain a person's fidelity. As I understand it(correct me if I'm wrong) a sub is to have complete devotion to the dom/me. THen fidelity shoudn't be a problem(at least in my view) if the dom/me asks for it. If the sub gets easily persuaded and manipulated to cyber with random people then fair enough.

BUT I've seen several subs who have no problem at all saying no that still have this rule put on them. In those cases it seems more like the dom/me is moving from just having a light dominance on the sub to trying to have complete control on an unhealthy level. Either that or you don't trust your sub at all.

Again, this is just what it seems like from an outside point of view.

Topic No private chat
Posted 09 Sep 2012 17:48

I'm curious about one thing. I've seen several subs that have it in their profile or telling people that they are not allowed by their Master/Mistress to private chat or whisper to anyone but them. So my question is simply; why? There are several subs who have formed strong friendships with others. Even though this is a sex site, private chats doesn't have to be sexual. What if they feel the need to discuss certain things with others that the Master/Mistress for some reason can't understand because they're not in a situation to understand it. It can be gender questions or life etc. Or just having a banter with your good mates.

This is not meant as a criticism or anything, I'm just curious, because for a person who is outside the lifestyle it seems like the Master/Mistress come off as either a massive controlfreak or they don't trust their sub, and I thought that in such a relationship(like any other) trust was a vital key in such a relationship.

tl;dr(Too long; didn't read):

Masters/Mistresses. Why no private? you come off as this

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Topic Socialism an illusion or the real solution?
Posted 09 Sep 2012 15:25


Last I heard, the gas and oil royalties are largely invested in stocks of international companies based in other nations. In other words, in the success of other societies, rather than being used to pay for the government's largess.



Partly true. A percentage is being invested into the budget every year, while the rest is invested in stocks and other companies. Now tell me how far companies around the world would get without investors willing to put their money in for the business to grow. Add to the fact that many of these businesses are in third world countries are strictly supervised by an ethics council that will advise the government to stop investing in the company if they don't follow the terms given (no child labour, worker safety etc.), then tell me how making third world economies grow is a bad thing, from a neutral point of view that is.


It still amounts to shaking down the upper class and transferring your cost of government to the consumers of the products of the oil and gas companies. So, while your government is building a big portfolio of foreign stocks, it is also raising the world price of energy.



Norway is not a member of OPEC who controls the oilmarket. They control how much oil is to be put on the market which again controls the price. Not to mention that we don't shut down the cranes unless there's fire etc and we're pumping up as much oil and gas as is humanly possible from the sea. Don't try putting the blame on a country that isn't a member of the "elite". Look to your own government instead.



The US absorbed many many economic refugees from Europe after 1850 and it was the loss of many of the productive people who were seeking economic freedom that caused the stagnation that led to the cycle of wars.

Sure. Ignore the fact the tension growing between France and early Germany in the 1870's. Ignore the fact that Germay was growing so strong that British leaders were pissing their pants. Ignore Austria-Hungary's desire to engulf all of Balkan into their empire, not to mention the Tsar of Russia who considered himself "Guardian of Slavs" and came to Serbia's defence once Austria-Hungary attacked. The family ties that were between the different royal houses in Europe and so forth. If economy was the cause, it sure as hell wasn't socialism, simply because in practice there weren't any left wing movements of note until the Russian Revolution.

And why do you think NSDAP was easy to sell? You have a nation that has been given the blame for the entire war(Germans are a proud people, and that one stung like a bitch) as well as a shitloads of factories being dragged out of the country. A massive debt to France, UK and the US as damagerepayment as well as the necessity of loans to try and build it up. Add the global depression(assume that's caused by socialism too, huh?) and suddenly you have a country with an inflation that's so big that you need a wheelbarrow of notes to buy a bread. All you need then is a charismatic leader that can find someone to put the blame on and promise better times, a Germany back to it's former glory, and voila, either it's socialism, capitalism or whatever, he's still gonna get elected.

Topic Socialism an illusion or the real solution?
Posted 09 Sep 2012 10:54

To give you a point of how the different membership countries related to Brussels:
The EU parliment decides a new rule or directive to be put in to action. Some of these are good, others not so good. If a country(say the UK) is 100% against it they'll either tell the parliment to fuck off in a very diplomatic way or they'll stall it and delay it as well as they can. And we're not talking months, we're talking years, which in practice means they only pick and choose the laws they want. If it's laws that are unpopular with the people they'll just blame Brussels. This isn't a one time thing that happens every now and then, it happens a lot. A whole lot.

And Norway is not a member of the EU. We recognise that it's not in our favour to be part of the EU, especially not in these economic times. We're very socialist in mind, with free health care, free education even on university level, welfare etc. etc.

But, that be said, I think what kind of political system is the best all depends on the size of the country along with what sort of natural resources are available. With Norway, we have 5 million inhabitants and we have a shitload of gas and oil. With all the income from gas and oil it's easy to bring the level of the entire country up on a very high standard of living. A lot of the income is from taxation, not of the middle class, but the upper class and especially the companies drilling up the oil, so instead of milking the middle class we're milking the upper class and the big companies, because even if we put on another percentage on their taxes they will still make enough money for it to be highly profitable to drill up oil and gas, especially when the oil prices keep rising.

I can't speak for other countries, and it is sadly all trial and error with what political system works. Maybe Venezuela would benefit very well from a more socialist model, considering you have a lot of natural resources. What you certainly can't do is give private companies full control of the oil and free hands to work it without any taxation at all, like the ideal capitalism dictates. Then the money will go straight into international co orperations and not to the people. DOn't believe me? Look at Africa...

And 1ball; if you're referring the two World Wars then you should have a look at history and think again before you blame it on socialism. I honestly can't see where you got that from, so please enlighten me.

Topic should women be allowed to be topless in public?
Posted 09 Sep 2012 02:02

a perfect example of .....



coffee

Pancakes or waffles, anyone??

Cry me a river then build a bridge and get over it. In the meantime I'll go to the fridge to see if I have some cheese to have along with the whine your serving us....

Topic Can Romney/Ryan get elected?
Posted 08 Sep 2012 10:50


What you say is true, to a point, they are supposed to work for us, but as Valarie Garrett said in Nov '08, "we are ready to rule." That's the way the Proggies feel, they are rulers not public servants. Yes we are on the path of socialism , both parties want that, but the Proggies have extended the safety net to new highs of "taking care" of more and more, bailing out the UAW, spending billions and billions for what? Employment has risen, less people are in the work force now than during Carter's years. We have gone backward for 4 years, and don't tell me it's all W's fault, Barry came into office, gas was $1.84, 15 million fewer people were on food stamps and we owed $6T less. We need to support Mitt and get Barry out of the White House.

Yes, you are indeed on the road to socialism.... if the road is route 66, socialism is in LA and you just got in your 1973 VW Beetle that has a max speed of 50 mph and it has a dodgy engine. That is how far from socialism you lot are. The parties in our parliment that distance themselves from anything the socialist parties stand for are closer to socialism than the democratic party will ever be, not to mention the republican party. So don't think that you're on the path to socialism, because that's right wingers scaremongering you.

Topic Socialism an illusion or the real solution?
Posted 08 Sep 2012 10:18

What you're describing isn't socialism. It's straight on corrupt dictatorship. It really doesn't matter what sort of ideology they say they stick it, it's always the same result; the population gets fucked over while there's a small percentage that gets filthy rich and they do what they can to get more money in their Swiss bankaccounts while the going is still good.

From what I've seen of reports Chavez has pretty much exterminated everything called democracy, thus you immediately stop being a socialist. Socialism is all about giving the power to the government who in turn will use it to improve the standard of living for the people, either it's by government controlling a lot or a bit less, but the key is that single individuals and/or private companies should not be able to dictate the agenda on what's needed. The people is to dictate and voice their opinion to the elected officials. The power is in the people, not the money, and the people will get it's just rewards from this.

That's sort of what socialism is IN THEORY! This is what teachers of political ideology and so forth will tell you when they lecture about socialism. Not the way Chavez runs your country. That is dictatorship. He just calls it socialism because that sounds a whole lot better than dictatorship.

Now whether socialism is ideal or not, is difficult to say. On one side pretty much every political ideology sounds pretty damn good, but the problem is that theory always differ from practice, and especially when it comes to politics.

Topic Phrase of the Day
Posted 08 Sep 2012 01:08

Two quotes:
"Work work"
-Peons in Warcraft III

"Why do I always get the dirtjobs?"
-Dozers in Generals

Topic The Rage Cage
Posted 07 Sep 2012 04:10

Things I'd like to do at this moment:
1) Write my stories
2) Watch some good movies or series
3) Play some fun games
4) Flirt with hot chicks
5) Masturbate to photoshopped pictures with LadyX's face on them

Things I have to do
1) Call around for jobs
2) Find my CV somewhere in all the horrible shit that's my computerfolders(already checked the pornfolder very thouroghly in case it was hidden in a video or a picture. Can never be too sure)
3) Fill out job applications
4) Realise that life sucks donkeyballs dipped in vinegar.

FUCK YOU, SOCIETY!

Topic It's Football Time Again
Posted 07 Sep 2012 02:35

http://www.youtube.com/embed/2sD_8prYOxo

Just saying:-"

Topic Can Romney/Ryan get elected?
Posted 07 Sep 2012 02:32

A mate of mine said he was sure that Obama/Biden would win. I carefully reminded him that there's not exactly a vast majority in the US that can be considered reasonable people, since there have been so much shit in the media about Obama being a muslim and so forth. That and when they look at the candidates and think "Who follows the Bible most" and pick the candidate out of that then you've got a problem. Religion and politics should be kept apart because sometimes the good of the people is not what's in the Bible.

One thing that does surprise me is how often Republicans will link a strong Washington with tyranny. Just because you have a government that makes most of the laws that go for you, doesn't mean that you're being supressed like some sort of Stalin-subject. It seems to be something that they keep spinning and make people afraid of the Democratic party, not because of the politics but because it's "obviously" going down the line that is Communism, and to all those who think the Democratic party is anywhere near Communism I can tell you that even if they managed to do everything in their program they still wouldn't be anywhere near Social Democrats.

Topic Does girls with glasses (prescription) sexy?
Posted 06 Sep 2012 14:36

Shape of glasses is alpha and omega. With the right glasses you'll get the hot librarian/secretary look that will make guys drool for you. Hell, with the right type of glasses you might look better with than without. So you just have to get the type of glasses that makes you look like a hot girl and not the type that makes you look dorky(in a bad way).

If that makes any sense at all. It does to me!!!

Topic Let Me Psych (and possibly gross) You Out
Posted 06 Sep 2012 14:19

Imagine the awesome parties. You just sit in your chair and drink and when you have to pee you just put the mug/glass between your legs and out comes another drink! I think it's a brilliant thought, especially since I'm a student and it would be a whole lot more economical if I could just drink a lot of water and then pee out beer.

Topic should women be allowed to be topless in public?
Posted 06 Sep 2012 14:09



Give me waffles or give me death!

I'll give you Gulag and re-education until you understand the superiority of pancakes!

Topic Waffles vs the world.
Posted 06 Sep 2012 10:02

Funny how neither pancakes nor waffles is winning. I forgot all about French Toast. I voted for that shit. You could get me to just about anything for some good French Toast, man.

It is obvious that the majority in here are peace loving hippies that will gladly wave the white flag in order for them to sit and eat their little toasts. But the united pancakefront will not be defeated by this pacifism!

Topic WARNING!!! POLITICAL!!!! DNC changes rule for party position against delegates votes!
Posted 06 Sep 2012 09:47

Since I'm a social democrat it means that I'm allowed to spit at both sides without being a hypocrite evil4

But this isn't really a surprising thing. God have been the center of American Politics waaaaaaay too long. The US have no state-religion, but every President goes "God bless America and God bless you all". Here we have Christianity as our state religion and we have a state church(kinda, it's getting blurry these days due to transition), but not even the Christian Peopleparty involve God in anyway. Not even when it comes to abortions or gay rights.

And because of that, a politician won't ruin his career when he publically says "Israel, you really fucked it up now." Hell, one of the parties that are in the coalition for government have openly said that they support the Palestinians against the Israeli. Imagine Hillary Clinton going out in public and saying that. She'd never get a job in politics again.

Topic The Rage Cage
Posted 06 Sep 2012 05:46

You call me when I'm at the bathroom? serious? I'm sitting there in peace and quiet and you actually call me? What's wrong with this day and age where we're so attached to our phones that we forget to take them off when we're going to the bathroom and lo and behold, someone gives you a ring and you gotta sit there and hold it in while the bankwoman goes on about how your internetbank is gonna be changed. Fuck this shit!

Topic should women be allowed to be topless in public?
Posted 06 Sep 2012 05:18



This CANNOT be! I don't even like waffles all that much, but dammit if I wanna go on a waffle binge, who's to stop me?! And better for the environment?? Pffft...they're just as biodegradable as pancakes. But I digress. I will NOT be oppressed by you breakfast fiends.cussing

You will eat pancakes and you will like it! Waffles are the product of capitalsits and through waffles they will try to supress us with their wafflegods. Waffles is opium for the people!

Topic Judge orders taxpayer funded male to female sex change for inmate
Posted 05 Sep 2012 17:04



You are not an idiot, at least I cannot say it in here, heheh, although I have weird week when it comes to understanding English or expressing myself.. However not sure if you have just bad week or, lol, just teasing you, don't take it harshly.

In post above, I was wondering if we, as society, could do something to prevent such a crime as murder. Typing this now, realizing how naive that is, however if, lets say, I have dark and depressed neighbor and if I would pay more attention to her, give her more my time, maybe she wouldn't try to commit suicide.. or if in primary and high school educators would be a bit more psychologists as well, maybe they could prevent damage and discover that kid (that is potential aggressor) has physical problems that can be solved..

Better? I was trying to give simple examples in my English..
We are open 24/7 for any further info leave message to the machine

Thank you for making your view understandable! I wanna Hugs for that.

And I dunno about the statistics, but I'm quite sure that a lot of the murders aren't premeditated. Those you can't do anything about because it just happens there and then, and I think it could happen to a lot of people. And there are so many serial killers where all the neighbours go "He was the last person I'd think would kill and torture 12 people." Appearances can be deceptive and not everyone are shrinks. And some develop symptoms after school, so even if you managed to have teachers that are shrinks then you wouldn't catch everyone. I doubt you'd catch that many. It's a nice thought though, but I think there are things we'd have more luck at preventinghappy8

Topic 2012 - The Year of ???
Posted 05 Sep 2012 12:09

That's a tough one. But I'll give it my best shot.

Ok. South America (where I happen to live) has the potential to grow, but corruption and narcos are screwing everything up.

On the other hand, there is Asia, that little by little has been getting a reputation. And let me tell you they are disciplined. They know what they're doing and they're doing it well.

Europe has always had a complicated economy due to political issues. Some countries don't like others. Some for good reasons, others for not too good reasons.

But my guess is that we'll see the rise of the Asian beyond our wildest dreams.They don't like to brag, so they might even have a very nice pandora box in store for us to see.




Just my opinion

Asia is starting to get one big problem; luxury. The reason everything says "Made in China" and so forth is because it's cheap labour. But now the standard of living in China in the cities at least is becoming better, thus the prices go up and the need for wages to go up increases as well. This means that the profit of outsourcing to Asian companies are going down, and then they'll start looking at other possibilities. We'll see Africa and South America on the rise. Several African countries have oil and they're working on clearing out the corruption. Once that happens you'll have an industrial boom all over Africa. Companies will build factories and schools to get workers, kids will be educated and so forth.

Topic Judge orders taxpayer funded male to female sex change for inmate
Posted 05 Sep 2012 12:04



True, however don't you think that there is a whole a lot wrong with Kosilek and no shrink can resolve his problems. He killed a person for fuck sake, of course that he has issues, I just don't think taxpaying people should care for him and his emotional problems. Not now, not after convincing such a big crime. However I wonder what would it be and how would it end, if society would be sensible for people like Kosiek and what can we do before they reach out and become aggressive towards others or themselves.

I admit. I'm an idiot. I've read through that line that I bolded out and I honestly can't see what you're saying. I feel like an idiot nowEmbarassed

Topic Waffles vs the world.
Posted 05 Sep 2012 10:48

Pancakes is the way of the Motherland. We will first give Power to the Proletariat, then the Proletariat will Plunder the Pancakes of the Protectorate Pigs!

Topic should women be allowed to be topless in public?
Posted 05 Sep 2012 10:42



waffles get a bad rep - really, it's a left-wing conspiracy - waffles never did nuthin' to deserve it. bunch of socialist waffle haters, yeah, i'm talking to you, girl, you damn hippie pinko tree hugging freakazoid.

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http://www.youtube.com/embed/0yDrtNEr_5M

Topic 2012 - The Year of ???
Posted 05 Sep 2012 09:12



evil4 you are funny, but I honestly didn't know about Mayans number-system, thanks for that!

You're welcome icon_smile I'm always happy if someone can take interest in all the bullshit that I know laughing6

To add on the whole "The world as we know will change" comes from a series of predictions they made where the periods are seperated in what I believe is "Khartoums" or something along those lines. I can't remember exactly what timeeras each of these represent, but they are linked with the Mayan calendar. These books contain rather broad prophecies of what will happen in said time period. It will be like saying "Leaders will be hanged", make it valid for 100 years and then say that because of the revolution in a third world country I was right.

Besides, the world as we know it have changed so many times without it causing the end of it. 9/11, fall of the Soviet Union, invention of mobile phones and so many other things. Should the prediction be true for all we know it might be that some smart man figures out a way to completely remove the CO2 releases from cars. That will also change the world as we know it...

Topic should women be allowed to be topless in public?
Posted 05 Sep 2012 09:03



you never took a stand on waffles vs pancakes, Lady X. Obviously, your purposefully trying to goad me into resorting to french toast or, even possibly, the hybrid waffle-cakes (or is it panffles?). oh, and it just occurred to me that blintzes and crepes shouldn't have been left out of the original equation... dammit!

Segregating crepes and blintzes out of your question? Now that sounds rather dodgy to me. I think it's borderline racism!!!!

Look at all the crepes fan going crybaby now.

Topic Judge orders taxpayer funded male to female sex change for inmate
Posted 05 Sep 2012 08:01

There has to be a whole lot of extra information that isn't divulged here. Shrink's testemony and a whole lot of other things. In general having people commit crime to get free medical care is stupid, but I can see the pragmatism in not giving health care to prisoners that are sentenced for life without parole. But if a judge ruled in favour of Kosilek then it's not as black and white as the article says it is. There's more. A shitload of other things that haven't been mentioned. If I'm wrong then the commonwealth of massachusets have a really fucked up judicial system and not only needs to be reformed, but revolutionised.

P.S. USA only has 46 states. 4 "states" are actually Commonwealths. Just wanted to say thatevil4

Topic 2012 - The Year of ???
Posted 05 Sep 2012 06:11



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http://upload.lushstories.com/324-Mayan-Calendar.jpg

The bad thing is that the comic there is actually right. The whole thing is because of the Mayan numbersystem. Unlike us who have ten different numbers on our keyboard the Mayan would have 20. This means that when they started making the calendar the numbersystem only let them go as far as 21st of December 2012. Should they have continued the calendar it would have started on year 0. And when it's 500 years until you reach the end I bet a decent fuck and a drink is more tempting than starting at scratch.

It will be like looking at the calendar in your phone, see how far it stretches and then go "Steve Jobs predicted that the world will end in...."

Topic should women be allowed to be topless in public?
Posted 05 Sep 2012 05:52



I think it's because everyone shouldn't HAVE to explain their opinions if they don't want to. You can go around demanding answers for everything you may or may not agree with, but no one's required to indulge you. Why not take an opinion for what it is without starting a debate and making mountains out of molehills? I understand that debating is healthy and important. But not every single thing requires an explanation or a rebuttal. It just gets tiresome. And honestly, in the grand scheme of things, what exactly are you trying to prove?

I answered your questions because I WANTED to. But that may not be the case for everyone. And they have the right.

And Sprite, I prefer pancakes. Waffles complicate things.


I agree that we can't demand that everybody clarify their opinion, but when you enter a debate about something then for the sake of the debate you should clarify it. What's the point of posting in a debateforum in such a way that people can't understand it? It does nothing else than rack up your post numbers. It is just as pointless as if I posted a reply in Norwegian dialect that's so thick that it would make Google translate shut down in disbelief.

And WMM, I was very well aware of her saying no to topless, I was more curious as to WHY she was no.

Topic A different baby box
Posted 04 Sep 2012 14:24

I'll walk all over your lowland's words while I stuff that cocksocket and throw it into your little portal, you moistmuffin.

Topic A different baby box
Posted 04 Sep 2012 14:03

It's just like you to "snatch" attention at my expense, Elit! (shakes fist)



Then stop being a pussy and come at me!