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TeenVintageLace
Posted: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 5:51:21 AM

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Lisa wrote:


Grace, your story was actually reviewed and returned to you by an Australian moderator. She mentioned that there were some spelling/grammatical errors and that it only required a little editing in order for it to be verified. I just took a look and can see a few errors in the first two paragraphs. I'll take a proper look now and work through it with you.

All moderators are aware of the differences between American and British English, regardless of which country they're from. In future it's always best to reply directly to the moderator who removes your story if you have any queries or disagree with the reasons for removal.


Thanks Lisa, I didn't know I could respond to moderators. I'm so new to this site, I only joined a couple of days ago. But now I know I will reply next time, thank you! :3 In the end though I didn't see any changes to those first two paragraphs after all. :)
Lisa
Posted: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:08:44 AM

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TeenVintageLace wrote:


Thanks Lisa, I didn't know I could respond to moderators. I'm so new to this site, I only joined a couple of days ago. But now I know I will reply next time, thank you! :3 In the end though I didn't see any changes to those first two paragraphs after all. :)


I noticed you'd only joined recently. I hope you enjoy yourself here. :)

The changes to the first two paragraphs were just words such as "it's" instead of "its", "is" instead of "it" and a couple of your words had been joined together. There were more further in but it didn't take long to catch them.
principessa
Posted: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:05:03 AM

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For the sake of clarity, everyone should know that the first line you see in the message rejecting your story, "Too many grammatical and spelling errors" is pre-programmed into the system. If the moderator does not mention your spelling, it is likely that there were no spelling errors.

I have found that many people think we do not allow for the differences in US/UK spelling and, as Lisa said, that is not the case. Too many people rely on spell check alone, thinking that is a guarantee of no errors. Their story will contain spelling mistakes that are words such as the there, their, they're confusion. Other frequent mistakes are words that are made plural with apostrophes and possessives that lack them. Spell check does not catch errors that are words.

Please check the spelling of words you are unsure of. I had someone insist that per se (from Latin) should be per say because that is how it sounded to her.

Bottom line, the story moderators want to help make your story better and bring your writing to a publishable level. They spend hours of volunteered time reading and editing stories but are not an editing service. Some writers have noticed that the bar has been raised over the past few months and they are correct. There is no reason that erotica published here should be any less literate than anything else published out there.

1LovelyKinkyKitsune
Posted: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:51:07 PM

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This added information and detail by Principessa and all the others was VERY helpful and insightful. Thank you very much.

MercyxLiddell
Posted: Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:15:47 PM

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I tried submitting my first story but instead of being told what was wrong I was just given a stock reply including how to make paragraphs and what not. Nothing really helpful so I have no idea what is wrong with it.
Coco
Posted: Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:41:55 PM

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MercyxLiddell wrote:
I tried submitting my first story but instead of being told what was wrong I was just given a stock reply including how to make paragraphs and what not. Nothing really helpful so I have no idea what is wrong with it.


It seems you've deleted your initial story submission. Because of this I cannot elaborate on what may be a problem. If possible, can you contact the moderator that reviewed your story, or send me a PM so that I can be of assistance?


NOTE to ALL: Please don't delete a story and submit as new. It eliminates the history on the story which makes it difficult for us to be helpful...in other words it wastes our time and yours.





MercyxLiddell
Posted: Friday, March 14, 2014 9:12:16 AM

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I just tried contacting the moderator. From my side when I resubmitted it, no changes were made from me editing it. I had no idea...I do not mean to waste anybody's time. I had no intention of submitting it as a "new" story. I just wanted it resolved.
barefootlove
Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:45:38 AM

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I have noticed and appreciated the improved reading quality recently. It was frustrating in the past when I tried to submit and was rejected but while reading I stumbled over stories that seemed fraught with errors. I'm not seeing those as often any more and having let my story sit for a while I usually see the problem after all.

I've lurked around for quite a while but I tend to come and go so I feel like I'm still pretty new to the site. There is a lot of material to help writers improve but sometimes it seems overwhelming. I have learned that if I worry too much about syntax while roughing out the story then it will come off as wooden and stilted. I'm sure that is true for some others as well. This is why several drafts should be written!

It can be rather challenging to find constructive feedback from those who don't belong on this site. It is a great help to have someone look over my stories and give actual advice instead of "I don't like that part." or "that was really good!" They say the devil is in the details! Thank you to those who make this site possible :)
NudeAutoMall
Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:47:09 PM

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I have a few adult novels I have been working on over the years, but as in life they are not all roses. Yes my main character is typically the hero in the end, but there is a lot of trials and tribulations along the way, some of which are none to pretty, and certainly don't fit within your rules. Why so strict n absolute?
sprite
Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:52:00 PM

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NudeAutoMall wrote:
I have a few adult novels I have been working on over the years, but as in life they are not all roses. Yes my main character is typically the hero in the end, but there is a lot of trials and tribulations along the way, some of which are none to pretty, and certainly don't fit within your rules. Why so strict n absolute?


which rules are you having trouble with? there's certainly plenty of room for things not being pretty, but yeah, certain rules we do stand by, such as consent, minimum age, etc. :)

Live, love, laugh.
LASARDaddy
Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:24:40 PM

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sprite wrote:


the biggest issue we have is grammar, spelling, typos, punctuation, etc - when we ask you to proof/edit, it really should be just a matter of fixing all those bumps in the road - and no ones asking for perfection. i still miss a few things myself, and go back and edit them months later and if i find them when modding a story, if there's not a lot of them, i usually just go ahead and fix them for the author. what does make our job difficult is when a story comes in like the one Princepessa spoke about - worse, are the ones that lie somewhere inbetween, where you don't really know if it's going to tip the scales until you get to the end - thoughtful writers we can mod as fast as it takes to read their stories - others will cost us up to 4 times that, keeping us busy on a single story and holding back everyone elses story from being published.

here's a secret, btw, we WANT you to get your story out - we don't like rejecting them, we even go to great lengths, at times, so that we can get it out on the front page. that said, we want to get your story out so that you can be proud of it, that other can enjoy it. there are some, i won't mention names, who were hot messes when they started submitting their stories, we sent them back, explaining why, and they took it to heart and have gotten good and popular and that kind of makes our day. we want you to succeed and keep this site as what it is, the best f'ing erotic story site on the internet fueled by you, the writers. you guys make this place happen - without you it would just be endless forum questions about girls shaving their pubes or guys with average sized penises! :)


I try very hard to do as the first paragraph suggests but i screw it up a lot. I know the second paragraph is absolutely true. Several have done all of that for me and I can not express how much I appreciate it. At least two of them had English as a second, maybe tenth, language and are better with it than I am.

I appreciate every one of the mods and I am NEVER upset by a rejection. My ego is at times but a swift kick in the crotch settles him back into his hole.

I've looked at a lot of erotica sites and think Lush is probably the best. One or two others are good but Lush is still better.

Thank all of you. Every one of you for all of your time, every erg of energy you expend, every thought you send back as suggestions for improvement. I save them all and reread them lest I forget where I screwed it up or succeeded.

I also found Text-Compare.com. It works with my IPad as well as IBM and I can see every space, comma, everything that was changed. That helps me a great deal in seeing what my mistakes were.

Thank You All!

I am always a gentleman.
NudeAutoMall
Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:33:07 PM

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Basically all of them. Let me give you an example of a real life hero of mine, non adult. The gentleman was a Jew in the time of Hitler. He like many was thrown in a concentration camp. His first morning he got to clean out the incinerators where his wife n daughter were burnt the night before. The man suffered many indignities from one camp till the next. His foot was crushed on a work detail, yet he never stopped working knowing it would be his life. etc etc. But the man never held a grudge. When the war was over and he moved to America, he remained very positive, he enjoyed his life, always making the best of everything, not letting the bad people in his life take his spirit. I know I personally would have been consumed with revenge, where others might be consumed with sorrow. But he was such an inspiration, in his forgiveness, and in the way he lived a happy life, not letting the true nightmare his life was consume him.
HeraTeleia
Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:33:47 PM

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Sometimes a rejection is the best possible thing that can happen to a story. Sweet_As_Candy returned a story to me, and in all honesty, it was total crap, written and submitted when I was in a bad place emotionally. I thanked her for her time and concern, then deleted the story in its entirety. Twelve hours or so later, I turned out "Under Fire", which is currently running straight 5's with over 2000 views. Rejecting the first story was the best possible thing that could've happened, because if it had been accepted, I would never have written "Under Fire".

My first story, a Recommended Read: http://www.lushstories.com/stories/flash-erotica/my-favourite-word.aspx

Want it all? Masturbation, exhibitionism, seduction, and of course, sex? Read "Tension", a Recommended Read: http://www.lushstories.com/stories/straight-sex/tension-1.aspx

sprite
Posted: Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:40:01 AM

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NudeAutoMall wrote:
Basically all of them. Let me give you an example of a real life hero of mine, non adult. The gentleman was a Jew in the time of Hitler. He like many was thrown in a concentration camp. His first morning he got to clean out the incinerators where his wife n daughter were burnt the night before. The man suffered many indignities from one camp till the next. His foot was crushed on a work detail, yet he never stopped working knowing it would be his life. etc etc. But the man never held a grudge. When the war was over and he moved to America, he remained very positive, he enjoyed his life, always making the best of everything, not letting the bad people in his life take his spirit. I know I personally would have been consumed with revenge, where others might be consumed with sorrow. But he was such an inspiration, in his forgiveness, and in the way he lived a happy life, not letting the true nightmare his life was consume him.


you DO know that this is a site for erotic stories, right? we kind of encourage people to write sex stories. while yours sounds like it might make for a great fictional novel, i'm not sure it would fit in here. are you planning on including any erotic scenes in your scenario?

Live, love, laugh.
stephanie
Posted: Saturday, June 14, 2014 9:12:23 AM

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Re-reading this thread and one thing stands out. It is this. The dedication and talent of the Moderating Crew.

I was a Mod for three years. And I was GOOD. REALLY GOOD. I, let's say retired, a few months ago... Since being free of moderating duties, I've written what I believe is some of my best stuff in years, I've re-engaged with the wider site, I've met A LOT of new people, I have more time to edit my own stuff, I can come here WITHOUT the pressure to have to perform, I can be as silly as I like, since I no longer represent the site in any way, and I DON'T have to deal with writers who can be TERRIBLY rude when all you're doing is trying to HELP them. (And that happens MUCH more often than you'd think...)

Being a Mod HAS its pleasures, (a nicer more talented bunch of guys and dolls I've never met) but it's a FUCK of a lot of work and pressure. I MISSED being a Mod at first, but HONESTLY? Not now. It's LIBERATING not to be a Mod.

So for those that continue to do SUCH a difficult job, you have my respect and my gratitude. Hand on heart, you guys fucking rock. I had NO IDEA how much work it was until I stopped doing it. (And I'd slacked off in my later years!)

Respect.

(And give me an EP you shower of fuckers!)

xx Steph

Nicola: "I wouldn't say you were REALLY GOOD... You were okay at the beginning... Then you proofed the Murder Story and it all went downhill..."

Me: "Yeah, Thanks Nic... Tell the fucking world..."





"A DIFFERENT kind of TINSEL decorates MY TREE!!!!" xx SF
BJintheUK
Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2015 12:07:36 PM

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Principessa,

Can you tell me how to format dates and times in stories? Where I come from (England), dates would be written in DD/MM/YYYY format (my birthday is 25/09/1950, for instance), and times in textual format as either something like 14.02, or 2.02PM.

How do you want them formatted in stories that go in Lush. A story I've submitted has a time in it of 6.00PM. Is this acceptable? If not, then how should I write it?

Any advice you can give will be gratefully received.

Many thanks,

pentup47
Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2015 1:22:00 PM

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Some excellent advice on this thread.

May I add one more Lush 'wrinkle' (learned from bitter experience!)? Don't be in a hurry to rush into print; leave it on your computer and then re-read it the next day and the day after that. I think it was Principessa who used the word 'polishing'. Each time you re-read your story, you will burnish it a little more brightly
principessa
Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2015 5:46:40 PM

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BJintheUK wrote:
Principessa,

Can you tell me how to format dates and times in stories? Where I come from (England), dates would be written in DD/MM/YYYY format (my birthday is 25/09/1950, for instance), and times in textual format as either something like 14.02, or 2.02PM.

How do you want them formatted in stories that go in Lush. A story I've submitted has a time in it of 6.00PM. Is this acceptable? If not, then how should I write it?

Any advice you can give will be gratefully received.

Many thanks,



I happened to notice this. I am no longer a moderator, but am happy to help with your question.

I think that as with the -or/-our or s/z issues in UK versus US spelling, that day/month/year or month/day/year are acceptable so long as they are consistent within your story. I do think that in North America, we generally do not use the 24-hour clock if not in the military, except perhaps in Quebec (where it would be rooted in French custom).



Milik_the_Red
Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2015 6:10:41 PM

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pentup47 wrote:
Some excellent advice on this thread.

May I add one more Lush 'wrinkle' (learned from bitter experience!)? Don't be in a rush to jump into print; leave it on your computer and then re-read it the next day and the day after that. I think it was Principessa who used the word 'polishing'. Each time you re-read your story, you will burnish it a little more brightly


This was the hardest thing for me to learn. I posted many stories at 5 am after writing all night, only to find I missed numerous typos. Working with Principessa, and being a mod in general, taught me the value of polishing my work. I'm a far better writer now than I was before I joined the team and met people like Prinicpessa and Steph.

Be patient and wait before posting. Get someone else to read it if you can. Your readers deserve the best you can give them.

stormdog100
Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2015 7:09:22 PM

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I pride myself on turning in stories that are pretty clean in terms of grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc. I work at it, reviewing, proofreading, and editing again and again. I was a little upset when a certain moderator, who shall remain wilful, kicked a couple back. I graduated college magna cum laude, for God's sake! But, swallowing my pride, I shut up and listened. These guys and gals (ladies?) made me a better writer, with their patience, persistence, and just by being so damn right all the time!

A big thanks to all of you for your hard, and often unsung and unrewarding work! You make the writers better, and the site great, and without your efforts I'd hate to think what a mess it would be. Cheers! Oh, and if you're like I was? Shut the hell up and listen to the mods!!! They will make you better - so that's my advice, I guess.

If you look, you may even notice that many of them produce some of the finest work on here. occasion5 Pour Wine

storm For I am a bear of very little brain and long words bother me. ~ Winnie the Pooh
adirtysecretboy
Posted: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:36:07 PM

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I have to say that the Moderating Crew are fair with their feedback.

I appreciate any help they offer and this thread is great too!

No judgements, only acceptance of your needs and desires.
stephanie
Posted: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 6:52:54 PM

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I've been trying to 'POLISH' Principessa for four years...

(NOTHING... Not A FUCKING thing...)

I'm using the term POLISH here in the "Trying To Get Her Knickers Off" context...

xx SF

Nothing...

"A DIFFERENT kind of TINSEL decorates MY TREE!!!!" xx SF
Guest
Posted: Saturday, May 16, 2015 6:22:14 PM

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principessa wrote:


Read the Writer's Resources about the use of apostrophes if you are not sure. They are not for plurals. They are used either for contractions or to signify possession. Read it for other punctuation marks to know that you are using them correctly.


The apostrophe can indicate plural possessiveness.

Well, it can in some cases, but when, and only when, ambiguity arises. And it's done by adding the apostrophe after the "s" at the end of a possessive noun instead of before it. You probably know this already, but I thought it worth pointing out. I'll show you some examples.

"The girl's tits were large and firm."

In the above sentence, there is ambiguity as to whether the word "girls" is in singular or plural form.

So if we are referring to the "girls" in singular form, we place the apostrophe before the "s": "The girl's tits were large and firm."

But if we are referring to the "girls" in the plural form, we place the apostrophe after the "s": "The girls' tits were large and firm."


I'll elaborate further.

"The computer's hard drives are corrupt." Here we are referring to one computer with two or more hard drives.

But if we placed the apostrophe after the possessive noun, "The computers' hard drives are corrupt", we are referring to two or more computers.


"The tree's leaves are falling" Again, there is ambiguity as whether the possessive noun "trees" is in singular or plural form.

One tree: "The tree's leaves are falling"

Two or more trees: "The trees' leaves are falling"

I hope I've made myself understood, and if anybody has anything to add, please do.
Gillianleeeza
Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2015 2:04:54 PM

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A huge and heartfelt thank you to all the moderators and story verifiers. The first thing I submitted was quite awful but with feedback, I eventually made it work. I have slowly gotten better. I have even had a few stories published on here. My poetry however is another subject. It's fun trying my hand at it and hopefully it too is getting better. Some people have enjoyed them.

Without the hours all of you put in, I know the quality of the stories on here wouldn't be what it is. Thank you again for all your hard work and feedback!

UKJames014
Posted: Friday, July 10, 2015 4:38:42 AM

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Not sure if I'm on the right part of the forum to ask this, but I'll give it a shot.

I submitted my first story on the 8th of July. I was just wondering how long it takes for a story to be looked over by a moderator.

Thanks
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