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PhareDuFour
Posted: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:57:10 AM

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Location: Germany
Master Alduras is still in search of women who will be real sex slaves (as opposed to 'pretend' BDSM slaves) on his island in the Caribbean. Just sign on the dotted line, transfer your assets, property, capital and human rights - and you too can have the same enriching experience this young lady enjoyed:

http://katibu.lakajira.com/2012/04/01/katibu-trailer/

Si vos postulo me, sed non vis me, oportet me manere.
Sed si vis me, sed non vos postulo me, oportet me abire.
freakycactus
Posted: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:15:28 AM

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I watched the video and now I'm looking at the guy's website. I'm in shock and completely at a loss for words.
PhareDuFour
Posted: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:03:54 AM

Rank: Advanced Wordsmith

Joined: 10/23/2012
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Location: Germany
freakycactus wrote:
I watched the video and now I'm looking at the guy's website. I'm in shock and completely at a loss for words.


http://alduras.lakajira.com/

LOL - Gorean Lifestyle at it's best.

I like to keep Master Alduras in my back pocket as THE "poster boy" for the plea that submissives really should consider they DO need things like limits, safewords, and SSC (safe, sane and consentual) play - as opposed to RACK. Master Alduras uses RACK (Risk Aware Consensual Kink) with full waiver of liabily to injury/loss of life and limb contracts which he believes are irrevocable.

Si vos postulo me, sed non vis me, oportet me manere.
Sed si vis me, sed non vos postulo me, oportet me abire.
freakycactus
Posted: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:24:31 AM

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I can see why! He must think it's irrevocable if he then finds it acceptable to sell the slave on. Clearly signing a contract with him then gives him this 'right'? I'm still shaking my head and muttering under my breath about it. It's not often I'm at a loss for words but with this I really am. I just want to kick something, preferably that man in the groin, repeatedly!
Dancing_Doll
Posted: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:52:49 AM

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PhareDuFour wrote:


Master Alduras uses RACK (Risk Aware Consensual Kink) with full waiver of liabily to injury/loss of life and limb contracts which he believes are irrevocable.


These 'contracts' are not legally binding. Loss of life or limb? I would be interested to see how Master Alduras does when he meets the real Masters of prison life. BDSM contracts and consenting to illegal acts of violence do not allow someone to operate above the law when it comes to human trafficking, grievous assault or death. Just ask the infamous Armin Meiwes about how his theory of having his victim's 'consent' held up in court.

That whole video and the concepts behind it made me sad. On one hand, one can argue about 'consensual' decisions but on the other hand self-mutilation, suicide, addiction, not taking one's medication when they are mentally ill are also consensual decisions but most people would argue about intervention in these cases for the person's well-being. In other words consensual decision-making is only as good as one's own mental health. There's a cult-like quality here that seems to prey on the weak and vulnerable under the guise of belonging, protection and ego-fulfillment. Very disturbing.


BlackTalon
Posted: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:00:00 AM

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Posts: 55
Location: United States
I knew what I was gonna see in that video before I clicked on it... la kajira was a dead giveaway of the gorean mindset ...I've mentioned My dislike of their beliefs in another post on here somewhere.

They treat slaves like cattle or prostitutes for all their friends to use, and I will never be able to agree with that type mentality.

Knowledge is nothing if not shared, with your slave, your community, and those wishing to enter into it. So I will continue to look for topics to give My opinion about, yes opinion.

*** Disclaimer ***
My way of thinking doesn't fit everyone, nor does anyone elses, it is not My intention to tell anyone else here how they must see or do things, as there are as many views of what "the life" means to people as there are people in it.
HanoverPhist
Posted: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:51:41 AM

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Location: State of Confusion, United States
I find it odd, if not a bit scary that people have even tried to replicate a life from 32 works of fiction. Of course there are a lot of people who live their life according to a work of fiction. I find that a bit odd and scary as well. Dancing_Doll mentioned that these contracts are not legally binding. Truth of the matter is one cannot consent to assault, I would like to site Paddleboro here. I think that the idea behind it is hot, erotic even. I could a weekend of such activities, even a week long vacation, (IMHO it's better than a golf vacation.)I just don't see how it is possible to live in that fashion in everyday life. I also have to concur with BlackTalon. I have my opinions, they are exactly that, MY OPINIONS. I am not telling, or even asking, anyone to agree 100% with them, as I don't agree 100% with the opinions of others. I have found, over the years, that it is often best to agree to disagree. This ,by no means, is reason for us not to like each other, or be friends, lovers, or what have you. Live the way you want to live. And I shall allow you to do that as long as you don't infringe upon my rights to do the same.
PhareDuFour
Posted: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:49:06 PM

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Dancing_Doll wrote:


These 'contracts' are not legally binding. Loss of life or limb?


Well, these masters like to believe that these contracts are essential, arguing 'It's no fun when you top from the bottom by safewording on me'. I have signed one of these contracts, and was abused by the man calling himself 'master'.

What I found out almost too late is that they believe once signed, your consent is irrevocable, according to the motto, "A signed deal is a signed deal. You knew what you were getting into."

Well I didn't it was irrevocable or exactly what I was getting into. I thought I was in for sensual spanking. I got the most serious beating of my life. So now I don't sign anything anymore. It's very scary when they tell you, "Fuck you, you fucking slut, and fuck your fucking safeword!"

Si vos postulo me, sed non vis me, oportet me manere.
Sed si vis me, sed non vos postulo me, oportet me abire.
Guest
Posted: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:06:37 AM

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Hi PhareDuFour,

you sound as if you really met mad people out there.
I am crossing my fingers that you will enjoy bdsm in a much more sane way:)

Cat
TheLovingSadist
Posted: Thursday, August 1, 2013 2:58:35 PM

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Now that I am supposed to be able to post links, I would like to offer a slightly different perspective of Gorean M/s from one of the best pages I have ever seen on the subject online.

http://www.passionwolf.com/gorean.html

There are, like Alduras, some people who simply take it way too seriously--but at the end of the day most people who like that flavor of M/s don't quite view it like him. For some, it is just basic M/s dressed up in role play. Others find value in how the books stress that a Master needs to be an honorable man, in control of himself above all else. A kajira is not meant to be a mindless object. She is a ferocious and wilful tigress, and only a man stronger than she has what it takes to master her.

BlackTalon wrote:
They treat slaves like cattle or prostitutes for all their friends to use, and I will never be able to agree with that type mentality.


The kinks and consensual agreements for open relationships aside, there certainly are people like that. However, rather than cattle, I have more often seen people liken the Gorean (and certainly M/s in general) lifestyle to owning an expensive sports car or a priceless Van Gogh painting.

She may be property, but she is precious and meant to be taken care of so that she will last and serve her owner well.

"A dominant who cannot control himself does not deserve the title of Master, because he who cannot control himself does not have the capacity nor the right to control anyone else." -- The Loving Sadist's Rules of Dominance, Rule One.
Red_Dragon
Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:04:50 PM

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BlackTalon wrote:
I knew what I was gonna see in that video before I clicked on it... la kajira was a dead giveaway of the gorean mindset ...I've mentioned My dislike of their beliefs in another post on here somewhere.

They treat slaves like cattle or prostitutes for all their friends to use, and I will never be able to agree with that type mentality.



I agree with you Talon, The Gorean lifestyle is not BDSM as it is mainly S&M. They are not true Masters but Sadist and there is a difference

Guest
Posted: Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:07:04 PM

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Red_Dragon wrote:



I agree with you Talon, The Gorean lifestyle is not BDSM as it is mainly S&M. They are not true Masters but Sadist and there is a difference


AGREED! !
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