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Buz
Posted: Saturday, August 17, 2013 11:33:35 PM

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Don't worry about it. Sometimes you just have to say 'hold on tight' and then pop a wheelie while she's on the back of your bike. She may not want you to skydive but 'fuck it', do it anyhow. Life has got to be fun, and predictable is boring.


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Buz wrote:
Don't worry about it. Sometimes you just have to say 'hold on tight' and then pop a wheelie while she's on the back of your bike. She may not want you to skydive but 'fuck it', do it anyhow. Life has got to be fun, and predictable is boring.


This.


SereneProdigy
Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013 12:18:37 AM

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Buz wrote:
Don't worry about it. Sometimes you just have to say 'hold on tight' and then pop a wheelie while she's on the back of your bike. She may not want you to skydive but 'fuck it', do it anyhow. Life has got to be fun, and predictable is boring.


Exactly. Like I said, it's not like I can change my personality entirely anyway, especially since I'm 31.

But I find this discussion intellectually stimulating, just like I would enjoy watching a documentary about birds mating.
Noir
Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013 4:53:31 AM

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SereneProdigy wrote:


Women seem to prefer men who display a proud yet reflective demeanor, and sometimes display a warm and sincere smile. Men that are always smiling seem to be considered a turn-off by most women.

Would you agree with this?


Echoing the Cliche - Women are deemed complicated. However, it is our complicated natural selection that intrigues me.

There are quite a few studies that might draw your attention; and although what you mention holds true for me, I would state that these studies can not be generalised.

A study states that - MOST Women find a pin up poster of a good looking man holing a baby more attractive than a drop dead gorgeous man posing shirtless. They percieve the first guy as a potentially better father and sexual partner, who is more stable and reliable than the other.
SereneProdigy
Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:58:01 AM

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Noir wrote:
Echoing the Cliche - Women are deemed complicated. However, it is our complicated natural selection that intrigues me.

There are quite a few studies that might draw your attention; and although what you mention holds true for me, I would state that these studies can not be generalised.

A study states that - MOST Women find a pin up poster of a good looking man holing a baby more attractive than a drop dead gorgeous man posing shirtless. They percieve the first guy as a potentially better father and sexual partner, who is more stable and reliable than the other.

Thanks for that contribution.

I completely agree with the complicated nature of women, and this is what truly fascinates me. Let's face it, in the end it is females who decide their mating partner, not the opposite ; males simply parade before them, exposing their potential, and are simply looking for a healthy female to reproduce. Of course, a decent male will also look for a female that displays many more qualities, but he could still be satisfied with an healthy one. Females have a lot more factors to consider, and have a much keener perspective about reproduction and raising an offspring. This has been proven scientifically in the past, not just for humans, but for most primates as well.

I also agree with the importance women attribute to a potentially competent and faithful father. I read another study where scientists evaluated the attractiveness of masculine vs feminine features in men ; a combination of both seemed to be the most desired. Masculine features were perceived as hints of power, dominance, protection, and also deemed the male as a good provider. Feminine features were perceived as hints of empathy, cooperation and faithfulness.

Although these biological foundations play a great role in mutual attraction, I believe humans are in a big part adaptative by nature, and can thus transcend these boundaries. A woman could make the choice to never raise any children, and therefore her criterions of attraction could be altered to some degree. Another interesting example of people who transcend the natural rules of attraction are homosexuals ; while they still feel deep desires for their partner, such desires are driven by different criterions than those generally considered when mating with the opposite sex.
Jack_42
Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013 6:33:00 AM

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I am baffled by the use of ''shame'' in this discussion - I understand ''introspective'' but shame to me indicates guilt over some bad action - not to be confused with some ''rebellious inclination'' but something to be truly ashamed of (or is ''shame'' just some sort of point of reference term?) Why would that be appealing to a mothering instinct? I would have thought some sort of ''helplessness'' indication would be a better definition in this context of mothering. Also I thought that women are attracted to good providers therefore in today's world that would be the potential high earners rather then the past's more primitive criteria. If I was a girl I would like clever laid back guys who don't compete and try and prove themselves all the time as that's the kind of women I like.

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Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013 3:06:45 PM

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sprite wrote:


if i'm dating a guy and he never once shows an ounce of humor or joy, then i'm probably going to lose interest fairly quickly. if that's harsh or judgemental, so be it, but it would be kind of silly to keep hanging out with someone i'm not enjoying hanging out with, don't you think?
If that's the case i would imagine that you would have a good sense of what he's like, prior to dating him. If you're in a packed club surveying men with that criteria, i would say it's a bit harsh /judgemental.

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Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013 8:58:42 PM

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Widowlicker wrote:
If that's the case i would imagine that you would have a good sense of what he's like, prior to dating him. If you're in a packed club surveying men with that criteria, i would say it's a bit harsh /judgemental.



mmm... let's say then that i'd be unlikely to say yes if someone along those lines asked me out. ok, so i'm harsh and judgemental - i can live with that - i'd rather then end up dating someone i'm not comfortable around or with whom i don't enjoy myself. wouldn't be very much fun for either of us.

btw, yeah, if i was in a packed club, my attention probably would be drawn by the guy who gives me a smile, or who looks like he's having fun. the ones that look like they're too serious or not enjoying themselves would probably get a pass. and i would expect the same of someone checking me out - if they took a look and thought 'naw, she's not really my type' i'd be fine with that. :)



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MadMartigan
Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:48:49 PM

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sprite wrote:


mmm... let's say then that i'd be unlikely to say yes if someone along those lines asked me out. ok, so i'm harsh and judgemental - i can live with that - i'd rather then end up dating someone i'm not comfortable around or with whom i don't enjoy myself. wouldn't be very much fun for either of us.

btw, yeah, if i was in a packed club, my attention probably would be drawn by the guy who gives me a smile, or who looks like he's having fun. the ones that look like they're too serious or not enjoying themselves would probably get a pass. and i would expect the same of someone checking me out - if they took a look and thought 'naw, she's not really my type' i'd be fine with that. :)


Awww. You're telling me you'd pass on my brooding contemplation? What if I'm thinking 10 moves ahead on the chessboard of life on how to woo your pretty soul in less than 5? sad10
SereneProdigy
Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:09:12 PM

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MadMartigan wrote:


Awww. You're telling me you'd pass on my brooding contemplation? What if I'm thinking 10 moves ahead on the chessboard of life on how to woo your pretty soul in less than 5? sad10


Checkmate!
sprite
Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:13:22 PM

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MadMartigan wrote:


Awww. You're telling me you'd pass on my brooding contemplation? What if I'm thinking 10 moves ahead on the chessboard of life on how to woo your pretty soul in less than 5? sad10


chess just confuses me. i like chinese checkers WAY better. besides, i'm betting you have a nice smile, so there. :)



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Guest
Posted: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:10:39 PM

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Science has a funny way of being right about these things. Or is it they are part of the reason these social norms among genders is tailored?

I mean there's a reason woman prefer the strong male figure who displays a bit of prude and confidence. The shame thing surprised me a bit. And what's that saying, "nice guys finish last"?

Either way the article was a good read. I think, depending on where you're from heavily influences what a person finds attractive.i must say that article is pretty accurate
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