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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:28:14 PM

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Hi there Ladies and Gents

A question!

At what point in your writing experience and publishing- here or out of here, did you consider yourself a writer, if ever? I have written a couple pieces now and I wouldn't consider myself or call myself a writer. I am just wondering about everyone else's experience.
Thanks in advance.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:44:08 PM

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Jessica_Heart wrote:
Hi there Ladies and Gents

A question!

At what point in your writing experience and publishing- here or out of here, did you consider yourself a writer, if ever? I have written a couple pieces now and I wouldn't consider myself or call myself a writer. I am just wondering about everyone else's experience.
Thanks in advance.


It very much depends on how other people perceive being a "writer" as to whether I would say I am or not.

I love to write. But I don't do it as a profession, nor do I have the ability to. But I love to sew, sing, draw and take photographs. I am not a seamstress, a singer, an artist or photographer by profession, but I love to do those things. So in a way, I am those things.

I used to wish I was a Writer. By that, I mean somebody who is officially recognised as being somebody who is skilled and talented at that particular thing (whether everybody agrees or not). Somebody like Stephen King, J.K. Rowling and Frank Lee. But I quickly realised that it was just a label that didn't matter. I was worried I would be seen as pretentious if I called myself that without published, lauded works. But now I don't care.

Anybody who writes stuff is a writer. It's just that we all have varying degrees of skill, talent, focus and drive. Some of us are famous. Some of us aren't. I like writing and I do it (snigger) regularly. So I'm a writer. sunny



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Guest
Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:34:56 PM

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Shylass hit it dead center - it's not being published that matters, it's writing.

Even if you never share it with ANYONE, you're still a writer.
Christie
Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:45:03 PM

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I write professionally but what I write for work is usually accounting analysis. Writing erotica has long been an outlet for me but it is less and less as important to me as it used to be. Maybe it's to do with getting older or maybe it's just that sex is no longer the mystery to me that it once was.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:48:25 PM

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i'm a scribbler.



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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:37:15 PM

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Depends on who you ask. I just put my words down on paper and let it flow.

Guest
Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:53:38 PM

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The moment my first story was published and I was paid.

By Merriam-Webster's definition, a writer is : 'one that writes for business or occupation'. example: AUTHOR
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:28:10 PM

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JasonM wrote:
Shylass hit it dead center - it's not being published that matters, it's writing.

Even if you never share it with ANYONE, you're still a writer.

couldn't have said this better myself

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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:40:16 AM

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Yes, I am. But being a writer is more about attitude than aptitude. I considered myself to be a writer when I scribbled my thoughts down in journals when I was ten years old, even though the only eyes that ever saw my words were those of snoopers. It pains me to see so many people on here who want to write stories but think they can't...they can...even if they never see the light of the day. And booksie/booksiesilk is a great place for beginners to start as you can pretty much publish anything there as long as you don't break any rules. Start there then work your way up here if you need to "be published".
DanielleX
Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:31:16 AM

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I would consider myself a budding writer. It's not my source of income and to be honest I'm not good enough to really give myself the title of 'Writer.'

I have always written stories to entertain myself - fiction generally, but I never considered myself to be very good. Then one day, someone gave me a naughty story to read and I said, "why don't you change this and that?!"

"Why don't you write one yourself?" he said. So I did and the rest is history.

Danielle x
Dirty_D
Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:03:28 AM

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In short, No.

I enjoy my musings and find them fun to write. once they have been written, I no longer enjoy them and in truth tend to not care much for them. I see the flaws, and wish I had the talent of the Dancing Doll's, Frank Lee's, Delphi's, Lisa's, and Sprite's of this world(there are more, but if I listed them all I would run out of space!) As I do not, I merely write for the fun of it and read the rest.


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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:04:03 AM

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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:05:33 AM

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I just want to say that I totally, 100%, agree with Shylass. I am a writer through and through, no matter if I am paid to do it or not. It's a therapeutic way for me let go of the day. It feels good to express words that others will also enjoy. It's a muse that I do not take for granted, but just enjoy doing.

But to honestly answer the question, when I really did consider myself a writer is when I had a poem published in an anthology of poetry published by The National Library of Poetry years ago.

Then, last year, for the Lush's sister site, storiesspace.com, I entered a contest there and won third prize for my submitted story. I got paid for winning third prize. I know that is not the same as getting paid for being published, but it felt like I had accomplished a writing feat! Well, maybe not a feat; more like a writing desire.



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Mazza
Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:27:01 AM

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JasonM wrote:
Shylass hit it dead center - it's not being published that matters, it's writing.

Even if you never share it with ANYONE, you're still a writer.


Agreed!

I write, so I am a writer :)

Nothing to see here...
Guest
Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:43:32 AM

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God ive been writing since I was a kid, so I'm a writer.
Frank_Lee
Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:47:19 AM

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What if we were talking about basketball? If you play a pick-up game with your friends now and then on a Sunday afternoon, you're a basketball player. Being in the NBA is not what defines you or what you do or your attitude about it. Do you think about it when you're not on the court? Do you debrief with your friends and go over what was good or fun and/or what wasn't and try to play a better game next time?

Writing is just what it is. It's nothing special. It's the same as basketball or swimming or masturbating. Who's the best cook you know? Someone who works in a restaurant or just someone who does it at home because somebody's gotta eat? Collecting a paycheck for something doesn't mean very much. The most frighteningly brilliant poet I ever knew never published a word because he was painfully awkward socially and couldn't play the game with all the yippy, leg humping poodles who populate the "lit biz".

The only advantage to writing for a living is how it gives you a chance to turn putting words together into a habit you don't have to think about too much. A very few but fairly pesky aspects just become a little easier. Things like talent and inspiration are very highly overrated, and I'm not actually convinced they even exist. Kurt Vonnegut said that a writer is not someone who likes to write, but who likes having written.

Just write and say your piece. Make your mark, whatever it is, and fuck what anyone else thinks.



Guest
Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:48:17 AM

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Nah, I'm a hack...but at least I'm a decent hack...lol
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TexDrifter wrote:
Nah, I'm a hack...but at least I'm a decent hack...lol


Ahhhhh...now THERE'S a title of distinction! Wear it with pride!



Guest
Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:09:47 PM

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I'm just this guy. I like to read, I like to write, I like to share with others. I like to ride motorcycles and fly airplanes, that makes me a motorcyclist and a pilot. I am married with children, so that makes me a husband and father.

I like to fuck, too. Does that make me a fucker? I've had sex with the mother of my children, so that makes me a motherfucker. Even worse, I'm 43. Am I an old motherfucker yet?

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Guest
Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:34:13 PM

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Frank_Lee wrote:


Ahhhhh...now THERE'S a title of distinction! Wear it with pride!


Amen brother...Author, writer, hack, or whatever else ya call it doesn't really matter. All that matters is whether you're getting what you want out of it or at least striving toward getting what you want.
Personally, I just want the story Im writing to be better than the last one I wrote. I think people get caught up in competing with the wrong authors...the only competition you should worry about is your own previous work.
But, then again, what the fuck do I know? I'm a half-assed hack dressed as a clown...prolly not the best source of advice...
Guest
Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:32:25 PM

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naughtynurse wrote:
In short, No.

I enjoy my musings and find them fun to write. once they have been written, I no longer enjoy them and in truth tend to not care much for them. I see the flaws, and wish I had the talent of the Dancing Doll's, Frank Lee's, Delphi's, Lisa's, and Sprite's of this world(there are more, but if I listed them all I would run out of space!) As I do not, I merely write for the fun of it and read the rest.

pretty much how I feel.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:39:46 PM

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Mazza wrote:


Agreed!

I write, so I am a writer :)


A heck of a writer Mazza!
Mazza
Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:45:16 PM

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Honestly, I maintain, if you write, you're a writer. There are of course different distinctions; technical writers, writers of minutes, writers of schedules and rotas, writers of textbooks, reference books, school curriculums, writers of graffiti, screen writers, script writers, letter writers, underwriters, writers of sermons, obituaries, journalists, novelists, authors, writers of philosophy, magazine writers, forum posters, unknown writers, famous writers... Blah blah blah

People like us. We're all writers in our own way, aren't we?

I guess it depends on what you're asking?

Nothing to see here...
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:55:33 PM

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Why get hung up on labels? Who is to say what defines being a writer? Simply: a writer writes - regardless of where or if you are paid
Guest
Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:07:10 PM

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angel7 Yes, deduct the heartache that goes with it. A bit exaggerated perhaps but I haven't reached the stage of living the writing dream or getting paid to write words that sell. I felt like I had to intentionally crash my heart to blocks and blocks of thorn discouragement to be someone like that. Guess what, as a non-native English writer I had to accept many pride-wrecking heartaches. And let me share the biggest ones: When people say they believed but their act showed they DO NOT. Painful right, specially if it is the ones you love? When they tell you to get a job because your dream is impossible because they see you as someone young and who is not "capable" – heart-breaking indeed. I’m just glad I wrapped my heart with motivation that kept me writing. Next was writing a mountain of copy but not getting paid. Yes writing is fulfilling and a good escape from reality but this was one of my biggest heartache way back when I was a naïve rookie freelance wannabe article writer. I worked for the scumbags of the universe who does not pay. And to top my list: My first attempt as a serious writer. Yes, the editor didn’t throw the paper to my face. Yes she didn’t mock at me and yes, I wasn’t escorted out by her security. It was worse. I travelled miles and miles for almost four hours because I wanted to be part of them. But guess what? After writing for hours, when the editor gave her first glance to the copy, her reaction was “OMG this is trash I can’t accept this!”. And that ended a dream. Yep, oh well… who I am right now? Am I a writer? I am not someone who gets to lay in a bed of green paper bills. I don’t live in a luxury house with glossy tables and a mini-bar. I guess at the end of the day what matters to me is being happy of what I could write and knowing that I can scribble a few words.
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Posted: Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:48:24 PM

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theplayer wrote:
The moment my first story was published and I was paid.

By definition, a writer is : 'one that writes for business or occupation'. example: AUTHOR


In its purest form, 'a writer' is simply someone who uses written words to communicate ideas. For most 'writers', the act of writing has got nothing to do with either business or occupation.

'An author' is generally understood to be a specific label given to someone who has written a book.

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sprite wrote:
i'm a scribbler.


and I'm always grateful that you're happy to lend me your crayons.

Guest
Posted: Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:25:13 PM

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I believe the question was: At what point in your writing experience and publishing- here or out of here, did you consider yourself a writer, if ever?

Everyone seems to be dodging that question. When? Not if...When? Not why...

Calm down and stop being so pretentious...
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Posted: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:00:49 PM

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theplayer wrote:
I believe the question was: At what point in your writing experience and publishing- here or out of here, did you consider yourself a writer, if ever?

Everyone seems to be dodging that question. When? Not if...When? Not why...

Calm down and stop being so pretentious...


If per my previous statement I don't consider myself a writer, then the when is immaterial.


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Posted: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:33:26 PM

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Shylass wrote:




Anybody who writes stuff is a writer.


Yeah...I would tend to sort of agree with something along those lines of reasoning...and yeah, I've reluctantly admitted to being a writer...and I guess I have been since I started writing in 2009...

Btw, someone over on the blue site posted a musing last year, if I recall correctly, that raises the question of why we are still called 'writers' when really what we do nowadays is type...shouldn't we be called 'typers?'...

Just something else to ponder here on Lush...Regaeman Man



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