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Poll Question : Is porn really a set back to women's rights?
Choice Votes Statistics
Yes, it should be eliminated all together! 0 0 %
Only certain kinds of porn degrade women. 4 8 %
A woman has the right to do porn if she wants. 34 68 %
Sexual liberation is a big part of women's rights! 8 16 %
I don't really care. 4 8 %

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Guest
Posted: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:21:00 AM

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Hello ladies. I have a serious question to ask. I plan on taking the women and gender studies class at university as part of my humanities requirement to to my political science major. One thing that has been on my mind a lot as I prepare to take this class is how does porn affect women's rights. Several of my friends and I agree that porn is ok and does not degrade or harm a woman's rights as long as she is not forced into it and she is not somehow tricked into doing it. Some of the reasons I came up with as to why porn is ok for a woman I'm going to list below, so please let me know what you think of the reasons and if you have any other ideas on why porn is or is not a set back to women's rights please let me know, I want to get as many ideas as possible. Thank you in advance to anyone who answers and/or responds to the poll!

Some reasons why porn is ok:

-Assuming that a women is not forced or tricked into performing in a porno, and that the girl in question is of legal age, it is ok.
-There are men as well as women who also take part in the porno, so if porn does happen to be bad, men are degraded to the same degree as women (in most mainstream porn anyway, not including certain kinds of fetish porn).
-It would actually be a set back to women's rights if a woman is told she is not allowed to do porn if she wishes to, putting further restrictions on what a woman can and can not do with her body.
-Eliminating pornography would amount to yet another form of censorship.
LadyX
Posted: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:52:24 AM

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I don't think there is a damn thing wrong with porn as far as women being in it. They are paid just like everyone else. If they are not paid or are forced into it then its not even porn, it's fucked up and maybe illegal too.

I can see how some women see porn, and how women are dominated in some of it, and think that it's a bad message if people see that and think it's okay to treat women that way. And of course, little kids should not see it anyway, but otherwise we are all grown people and shouldn't put too much meaning into on-camera sex for masturbation, in my opinion.

Dancing_Doll
Posted: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:35:51 PM

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There is nothing wrong with porn. But men and women watch it. There are so many different varieties out there because everyone has different fantasies, and the industry caters to all of it.

A lot of women are able to make great $$ from doing porn (way more than male porn stars), and if they choose to make a living that way, then more power to them. At least they are making a living, paying their bills, and taking care of their families.

Everyone has a choice... even the women can choose the kind of porn they want to do. They are setting the standards, choosing how/when to work, and putting food on the table. That's feminism at its finest, in my opinion!


She
Posted: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:25:56 PM

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I like your plan, but I have some trouble understanding what are you asking us. So, please correct me.

You would like to know if feminism has something in common with porn?
You are asking if human rights are decreased for porn actersses?
And if someone is forced into prorn industry, and what is hapening with their rights?

What am I missing?

As far as I know porn and feminism have nothing in common.
Every porn star make a choice to be what she is and because of her free will everything is ok with her human rights.
If someone is forced into a porn industry we can talk about crime, it is illegal she/he have no rights whatsoever.
DazzlingLove
Posted: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:34:11 PM

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I personally as a woman have no problem with porn. If I want to make my sexuality public and be paid to do so then I will do so as I see fit.
Guest
Posted: Monday, April 12, 2010 3:57:37 PM

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I think there are some forms of porn that are degrading but most is not.
LadyX
Posted: Monday, April 12, 2010 4:10:20 PM

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Alissa wrote:
I think there are some forms of porn that are degrading but most is not.


now I am interested- if its all free will and paid, then what kind of porn is degrading?
Lisa
Posted: Monday, April 12, 2010 4:14:12 PM

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I don't think anything is really degrading unless you personally feel degraded by it.

Edited to add: But I do find it interesting that the three industries where women easily out-earn men are porn, prositution and modelling - all based on looks and sex.
LadyX
Posted: Monday, April 12, 2010 4:20:13 PM

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Lisa wrote:
I don't think anything is really degrading unless you personally feel degraded by it.

Edited to add: But I do find it interesting that the three industries where women easily out-earn men are porn, prositution and modelling - all based on looks and sex.


damn, so true! Sexuality is our ace in the hole, and everywhere else we get short changed. glasses8
Guest
Posted: Monday, April 12, 2010 4:56:14 PM

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LadyX wrote:
Alissa wrote:
I think there are some forms of porn that are degrading but most is not.


now I am interested- if its all free will and paid, then what kind of porn is degrading?


I don't think free will is the only test. If I need money and the only job I can get is to be filmed while a man pees on me while calling me names, and I agree to this even though I find it repulsive because I need to feed my child, I believe it is both free will and degrading.
LadyX
Posted: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:02:25 PM

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Alissa wrote:
LadyX wrote:
Alissa wrote:
I think there are some forms of porn that are degrading but most is not.


now I am interested- if its all free will and paid, then what kind of porn is degrading?


I don't think free will is the only test. If I need money and the only job I can get is to be filmed while a man pees on me while calling me names, and I agree to this even though I find it repulsive because I need to feed my child, I believe it is both free will and degrading.


Okay I can see that. I guess you would call that getting exploited? Not forced exactly but maybe taken advantage of if its your best bet for money.
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Posted: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:14:09 PM

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LadyX wrote:
Alissa wrote:
LadyX wrote:
Alissa wrote:
I think there are some forms of porn that are degrading but most is not.


now I am interested- if its all free will and paid, then what kind of porn is degrading?


I don't think free will is the only test. If I need money and the only job I can get is to be filmed while a man pees on me while calling me names, and I agree to this even though I find it repulsive because I need to feed my child, I believe it is both free will and degrading.


Okay I can see that. I guess you would call that getting exploited? Not forced exactly but maybe taken advantage of if its your best bet for money.


It's extreme but it's there. My only complaint with mainstream porn is that guys assume that it's ok to slap a woman's ass while fucking because they see it on vids. Slap my ass and you better run!
Lisa
Posted: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:23:06 PM

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Alissa wrote:
LadyX wrote:
Alissa wrote:
LadyX wrote:
Alissa wrote:
I think there are some forms of porn that are degrading but most is not.


now I am interested- if its all free will and paid, then what kind of porn is degrading?


I don't think free will is the only test. If I need money and the only job I can get is to be filmed while a man pees on me while calling me names, and I agree to this even though I find it repulsive because I need to feed my child, I believe it is both free will and degrading.


Okay I can see that. I guess you would call that getting exploited? Not forced exactly but maybe taken advantage of if its your best bet for money.


It's extreme but it's there. My only complaint with mainstream porn is that guys assume that it's ok to slap a woman's ass while fucking because they see it on vids. Slap my ass and you better run!


This is one of the things I don't like about porn. I worry about guys (who don't have much experience with sex) watching these movies and thinking that's the way all women want to be treated.
Guest
Posted: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:28:08 PM

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Just to respond to She, the aim of the question is to ask whether women feel that porn is a threat to feminism, and so far everyone seems to be ok with it, and as for the point about women who are forced into pornography or aren't paid for it, that is illegal and I'm not even considering that, I'm talking about pornography i the sense that women are both taking part in it because it is their own choice and that they are being paid for it.

Thank you so far to everyone who responded! wave
DamonX
Posted: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:30:58 PM

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Lisa wrote:

This is one of the things I don't like about porn. I worry about guys (who don't have much experience with sex) watching these movies and thinking that's the way all women want to be treated.


Awww, but I get all my best moves from porn. dontknow
She
Posted: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 1:55:18 AM

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Thank you for breaking this down for me CyberRenegade.

As I said, I think that nothing is wrong and noeone is decreasing porn's human rights as long as they doing it willingly, but what is behinde their choices (and I don't want to sound heartless) I do not care. Maybe they made a bad one before in their life and this porn career is just a consequence, but we all have to be responsible for our own life and pay our own debts.
LadyX
Posted: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:09:37 AM

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DamonX wrote:
Lisa wrote:

This is one of the things I don't like about porn. I worry about guys (who don't have much experience with sex) watching these movies and thinking that's the way all women want to be treated.


Awww, but I get all my best moves from porn. dontknow


I bet you do, Damon.evil4 One day we'll both earn the other two X's on our screen names.
Miss18
Posted: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:01:26 PM

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Lisa wrote:


This is one of the things I don't like about porn. I worry about guys (who don't have much experience with sex) watching these movies and thinking that's the way all women want to be treated.


I SOO agree with you on this!
Guest
Posted: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:50:35 PM

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With great confidence one can clearly proclaim that the purveyors of pornography will face their day of Judgement- each spring for one evening at the AVN Awards Banquet in Las Vegas. Any wanton starlet of thy preference shall be on hand to receive the fruits of their hard labor from the year afore.

The scantily clad maidens of coitus and other depraved acts of fornication finally receive the recognition of their talents- for they do so out of free will and verily I say, in barter for fair bounty of sheckles.

Blessed be the Pornographers!
Guest
Posted: Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:41:52 PM

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Miss18 wrote:
Lisa wrote:


This is one of the things I don't like about porn. I worry about guys (who don't have much experience with sex) watching these movies and thinking that's the way all women want to be treated.


I SOO agree with you on this!


Well said, I dont mind women being in porn as long as its not women I know... I know, hypocritical.
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Posted: Friday, May 28, 2010 12:46:19 AM

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Porn is bringing to light what is done in darkness and how much of it has been brought to light????
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Posted: Friday, May 28, 2010 3:44:59 AM

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As far as I know, (most) porn counts as a legal job made by consenting adults, for consenting adults. If your job is legal, allows you to pay your bills, and allows you to look yourself in the mirror in the morning, tell anyone who objects to your job to kindly go fuck a blender.

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Guest
Posted: Friday, May 28, 2010 12:32:00 PM

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Like most of the other ladies on this site, I find little wrong with Porn.... We all agree that if it is by free will and financial reward is beneficial to many. Remember the San Fernando Valley has created an entire industry around Porn and 1000's have job because of it.

If I was young and beautiful I would have no problem being a Porn Actress, as long as I had some discretion on the subject matter.

Some has commented on letting a guy pee on you and calling you degrading names. For me that would be crossing the line and I would prefer to do some hooking before going there.

But that is just me.
angeldust
Posted: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 5:16:23 PM

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No I don't think it is and women has the right to do what she wants to. Many a many of people watch Porn there's some thats not as good as others but it just boils down to what you are looking for. Women and some me do Porn for a number of reasons if it's by their choice and enjoy doing Porn there's not a thing wrong with it.


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