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MorganHawke
Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2011 2:21:48 PM

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Mistress_of_words wrote:
That was kind of my point about audience and the Lush zero tolerance policy. Even if you intend something to be viewed as horrific or painful, and use it as part of a story to add depth to a character, in an environment such as this you know there are people who will read it in an entirely different way.


That's true of ANY story in ANY genre because people automatically read Subjectively -- they put themselves in the place of the characters, UNLESS you draw a strong clear line between them, which is NOT an easy thing to do.

Mistress_of_words wrote:
So for example, if I wrote a story that started out with a woman being raped, but she was rescued by someone and went on to form a relationship with them. The rape would not be intended to be arousing, it would be intended to be scary and horrific, but it still wouldn't be accepted.


Yep, that's the rules for LUSH.
-- I couldn't even use the word 'rape' in my story. I had to pull it out.

On other sites though, I've discovered that the best way to handle something potentially explosive with the readers is by Telling it. I DON'T describe what happened, I state it:

"Back when she was fresh out of college, her apartment was broken into. She never quite recovered from it."



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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2011 3:53:49 PM

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MorganHawke wrote:


On other sites though, I've discovered that the best way to handle something potentially explosive with the readers is by Telling it. I DON'T describe what happened, I state it:

"Back when she was fresh out of college, her apartment was broken into. She never quite recovered from it."



yep, i've done the same thing in the past, just left it up to the readers to decide what happened my discussing what happened afterwards without ever mentioning what actually happened - i think it actually made it a better story.

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DirtyMartini
Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2011 4:19:56 PM

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MorganHawke wrote:


Yep, that's the rules for LUSH.
-- I couldn't even use the word 'rape' in my story. I had to pull it out.



You did start a thread about raping plots though I noticed...

Somehow the moderators let that slip by...don't worry, I won't say anything...Shame on you


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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 2:13:01 AM

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DirtyMartini wrote:
MorganHawke wrote:


Yep, that's the rules for LUSH.
-- I couldn't even use the word 'rape' in my story. I had to pull it out.



You did start a thread about raping plots though I noticed...

Somehow the moderators let that slip by...don't worry, I won't say anything...Shame on you


You're a little behind the pace there Alan.
MorganHawke
Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 4:59:47 AM

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nicola wrote:
DirtyMartini wrote:
You did start a thread about raping plots though I noticed. Somehow the moderators let that slip by...don't worry, I won't say anything...Shame on you


You're a little behind the pace there Alan.


Only two or three days behind. :)

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DirtyMartini
Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:46:58 AM

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nicola wrote:


You're a little behind the pace there Alan.


LOL...I see that...for a moment there I thought someone on Lush was actually going to get away with something, but really I should have known better...

And Morgan...if I'm only two or three days behind, I consider that pretty good...


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MorganHawke
Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 1:18:46 PM

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DirtyMartini wrote:
...And Morgan...if I'm only two or three days behind, I consider that pretty good...


I prefer to be two or three days ahead, myself. :)

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Milik_Redman
Posted: Sunday, January 15, 2012 6:28:34 AM

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This is fascinating to me. In Kelly's Passion Kelly uses her innate sexuality as a tool to attract both the readers and characters in the book. The antagonist has his 1960's clothing and his smoking to show his lack of style and class.
In the Survivor Myra makes the point of being underestimated as a weapon.
I had used these traits without even realizing I was doing it! I'm certain that having it brought to my attention will enable me to use this skill more efficiently in the future.
Thanks for the tip!
DirtyMartini
Posted: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:40:49 PM

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Milik_The_Red wrote:
I'm certain that having it brought to my attention will enable me to use this skill more efficiently in the future.
Thanks for the tip!


Btw Milik...nice to see you back around here and writing again...I have a feeling a few here would agree with me on that one...

Hey, not every day people agree with me, but I think they would this time...happy8


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Milik_Redman
Posted: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:53:16 PM

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DirtyMartini wrote:


Btw Milik...nice to see you back around here and writing again...I have a feeling a few here would agree with me on that one...

Hey, not every day people agree with me, but I think they would this time...happy8


Wow thanks. That's a mighty nice welcome and coming from a respected writer such as yourself I am doubly honored.
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2013 2:57:14 PM

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Thank you, that was wonderful.
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2013 3:49:26 PM

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Holy hammers! Thank you for the extremely valuable lesson, and the massive piece of humble pie I'm now going to munch through. Clearly I need to spend more of my procrastinating time in this section of the forums, rather than commenting on whether I would or would not fuck the avatar above.

I've accidentally stumbled ass backwards into a static trait from my female character in my latest story, but I'm stumped on the bloke. I'm going to have to get it back up on blocks before I submit.

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Posted: Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:15:27 AM

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Quite a few characters in my amateur novel have static traits.
Maximus has the antagonistic habit of pointing out peoples flaws.
Dutch holds grudges but is fanatical in his loyalty.
Kestix is paranoid and always has a knife on him.
And Stryke, the protagonist, worries obsessively over those under his command.

I didn't even notice these till reading the post

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1LovelyKinkyKitsune
Posted: Monday, April 14, 2014 6:57:37 PM

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This is absolutely wonderful. I had no idea it had a name! I did not know what a "static trait" meant. My guess was some underlying and defining character flaw. Of course it can be something that might ironically be a blessing. Real life is funny that way in how things turn, but I would have never guessed it could be neatly labeled.

I am just a creative writer who does not know all the terms and tools, but I am eager to learn new things and found this very interesting, as well as insightful. You did sum up and give straight-forward examples that were easy enough to grasp onto the idea, even for someone like me who over analyzes things at times.

Thank you Morgan.


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Posted: Friday, May 09, 2014 11:48:18 AM

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Wow. That's very perceptive and well put.

I was watching The Fosters with my kids last night (they are adopted, so the show brings up a lot of salient issues) and there was a line about how everyone has an addiction, not necessarily drugs or booze, but to things like running away from conflict, creating conflict, wanting people to like you (I've kind of got that one), falling in love, money, yada yada yada. We talked about it for awhile afterward.

Anyway, you are saying a similar thing with static traits, and how the need to overcome them can become the spine of a story, or the arc of a character. Nice. I will check out your stories!

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