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BagOfHammers
Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:49:58 AM

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Warrior_Ink
Posted: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:11:47 PM

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If we're being honest... I'll have to admit that there are certain racial and cultural elements of people who are a common sight in my corner of Canada. These are things that I see, or hear, and I get uncomfortable. That makes me a textbook racist.

In my own defense, I try to overcome these things. I understand where they come from. I've had both East Indian landed immigrants and Gitxsan First Nations treat me horribly in the past. It was only recently when I heard someone conversing rapidly in Punjabi that I was overcome by a surge of hatred... then I realized what I was feeling and felt shame instead.

So, yeah. If we're being honest. It's not a comfortable thing to talk about.

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elitfromnorth
Posted: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 8:03:29 PM

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I don't really regard patriotism as racism. I am patriotic when our football team play, even if several of our players are of middle eastern decent. I regard them as Norwegians even if some of them are actually immigrants, because they put the Norwegian shirt on. I don't regard you as any less Norwegian if you wear a turban or a burka, but show true to our values and you're a Norwegian. Patriotism becomes a problem once you start discarding people as members of your own country because of minor reasons, like accent, religion and so forth(we still have a state church here). To me that is unhealthy patriotism and moves on to racism or at least discrimination.

As me being a racist, well, it happens. But usually it's a heat of the moment thing(apart from Americans. Still not letting go the whole failing to see what is and what isn't socialism). I make racist jokes quite a lot, but that's merely for entertainment. I never hear someone say "I'm a Muslim" and think "Violent terrorist!" or instantly believes that they think all women should cover their heads and stay in the kitchen, even if kitchen jokes are brilliant. My racist moments are mostly during football, and especially when African players are involved. Often it's due to their lack of team effort and that they focus more on individual skill, but I think that's more down to cultural differences in how they play football. But considering my emotions, heartrate and general mood during football, it's more of a heat of the moment thing.

In general I try my best. The occasional racist thought can cross my mind, but to me it's very often more a criticism towards their culture. Saying the Chinese are disgusting because they constantly spit, isn't not saying that you dislike the Chinese, you dislike the fact that they're spitting. That's my opinion.

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Posted: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 9:32:51 PM

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I definitely try not to be.

I may sometimes express my aversion with parts of certain cultures/religions and some seem to interpret that as racism. But in my mind conflating those things is actually the racist thing, so I always try to make a clear distinction between race and culture/religion.

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Posted: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 11:43:24 PM

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everybody is a racist it's all about degrees.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:42:02 AM

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Right action leads to right thought.

I push against what is sometimes an instinct to choose to separate myself from a person based on their background, culture or skin-colour. I force myself to speak out a little more against racist comments my family and friends make. I ask questions where I might have previously made assumptions.

Through making this conscious effort to battle my slightly racist tendencies (and I'm really not talking about anything huge here), I have actually found myself thinking like I would like to think much more often.

Where I grew up, probably more than 99% of people are white and Scottish. My whole family is white and Scottish. It was normal (though not acceptable) to be casually racist, passing judgemental and stereotypical comments without really thinking about them. As I've grown older and wiser, I see how wrong that all was, but it's left an impression on my mind that I'm gradually transforming.

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Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 8:12:49 AM

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Posted: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:49:42 AM

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No. I think it is stupid. Skin tone or culture makes a person less? For real? No. I don't Are we not more evolved?
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Posted: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 2:03:34 AM

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NO, because i have no reason to be racist. I come good along with all kind of people. For me counts skills and talent more then herritage or nationality.
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Posted: Saturday, August 2, 2014 9:11:03 PM

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No I am not. I don't see life that way.
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Posted: Saturday, August 2, 2014 9:20:49 PM

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[quote=Magical_felix]Everyone is a lil racist. It is the way our brains work wether you like it or not. Our brains compartmentalize everything, including people. If our brains didn't do that we'd have a hard time grasping the world in general.

I am actually leery of people that say they are absolutely not racist at all, and that they don't see skin color or culture, or hold no prejudices. It makes me feel like they are dishonest or overly politically correct without really believing what they say or that they are actively racist and are just saying that to cover up a feeling they have that they might think others notice.

Has this worked for thousands of years? So will it now?
ChuckEPoo
Posted: Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:30:39 AM

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I like to think I am not a racist. What tics me off is when someone assumes I am racist. Like when I criticize Obama for his policies. Some one pulls the racist card. Or if your a tea party member they do the same. It seems everyone today is a victim. How about those that use race as a crutch or to solicit leverage on the pretense of equality? Aren't they racist? When I lived in the south when I was young I saw real prejudice. It was sickening. Blacks only toilets and drinking fountains. Prevented from a meal at a restaurant. Wrong. Terribly wrong. I served in combat with all races. I found they all bleed red.

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Posted: Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:52:31 AM

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I've seen this thread for a long time and pondered what it was trying to say.

If the question is, do I look at a racial group and think right off that they are inferior? No.

Am I unwilling to talk to someone because of their race, sexual orientation or religion? No.

I'm a man of such mixed racial heritage, Cherokee, Irish, Dutch, and German, that I'd find it difficult to worry about what color someone is. To me, it's like not liking someone because they are blond, or left handed. (I'm left handed, by the way)

So no, I would say I'm not racist.

Now, are there aspects of some cultures that I don't like? That is a resounding yes. Pick one, including my own, and there will be something about their beliefs, attitudes or outlooks that I find objectionable.

That isn't racism. That's analyses of the situation.

If I find someone who looks just like me, hating on me for where I live, I can tell you upfront, I'll consider them to be an arrogant bastard. I would expect the same from them, were I narrow minded enough to act like an arrogant bastard.

That isn't racism either.


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Magical_felix
Posted: Sunday, August 3, 2014 2:25:16 AM

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NickiC wrote:
[quote=Magical_felix]Everyone is a lil racist. It is the way our brains work wether you like it or not. Our brains compartmentalize everything, including people. If our brains didn't do that we'd have a hard time grasping the world in general.

I am actually leery of people that say they are absolutely not racist at all, and that they don't see skin color or culture, or hold no prejudices. It makes me feel like they are dishonest or overly politically correct without really believing what they say or that they are actively racist and are just saying that to cover up a feeling they have that they might think others notice.

Has this worked for thousands of years? So will it now?


I am not quite sure what you are asking.

paul_moadib
Posted: Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:29:23 AM

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It's one thing to have 'racist' thoughts and another to vocalise in public or act on them.

People who are racist are the latter. You can't always control the first things to pop into your head.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 1:30:05 AM

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Magical_felix wrote:


I am not quite sure what you are asking.


Clarify your view please. I am interested my dyslexia makes me sometimes hard but I do want to know want you mean.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 1:34:58 AM

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Magical_felix wrote:


I am not quite sure what you are asking.



What are your views on this and I am tired? Thank you
Magical_felix
Posted: Sunday, August 10, 2014 10:08:55 AM

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NickiC wrote:


Clarify your view please. I am interested my dyslexia makes me sometimes hard but I do want to know want you mean.


I guess I can understand this, pretty girls sometimes make me hard. But what part of my post exactly do you wish me to clarify?

NickiC wrote:
What are your views on this and I am tired? Thank you


I am not sure if you are tired.

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Posted: Sunday, August 10, 2014 11:20:45 AM

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This thread caught my eye and after reading it, I feel I can add a bit to it.

I was "told" not to judge people by their skin color, but then would hear my parents & grandparents use racial slurs and I was confused. It wasn't until I got out into the world that I started to see how people would behave differently from me.

But it was when I became a teacher that I really saw this. I have seen "the race card" played by young children who learn it from the adults they know. I'm not saying they learn it from their parents, but they learned it from someone.

The worst was when I had two female students almost get into a fight in my classroom. One girl was black, the other was white. Both girls were told that due to their choices, they would lose out on field day since I couldn't trust them to behave. The next day, after the field day fun was over, the mother of the black girl showed up in my classroom questioning me about my decision. She said the other girl used racial slurs toward her daughter, and I said both girls were using inappropriate language toward each other, including racial slurs. When the mother realized I wouldn't cow down to her she left... or so I thought.

Then I hear the mother tell a young boy (please know I was teaching 9-10 year old children at the time) that I was a "piece of white trash someone pulled out of the trash can." There is a silence that can take hold of a classroom in a moment, and this was one. The mother returned and screamed a slew of racial obscenities and slurs in my face. Now, I wanted to return the language until I saw the faces of my students. Since my class was a wonderful mix of white, brown, and black faces, anything I said could and would hurt them. So, I said nothing. Well, not nothing, I said, "I'm sorry you feel that way," and "Please leave my room."

When this woman finally left, one of my kids said, "Jerk." Then another said, "Loser." I had to stop this immediately and I did. The kids did ask why I didn't reply in kind and I told them I wasn't going to lower myself to her level. I did report her for the verbal assault and she was banned from our school. I would have done the same thing to anyone who chooses to scream at me in front of my students.

So yes, after an incident like that I am a bit racist. I'm tired of people acting like they are entitled to be jerks because their skin color is different than mine. But I don't regret my actions. I was able to show my students how to turn the other cheek, so to speak.

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Posted: Sunday, August 10, 2014 11:38:55 AM

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Racism is a state of mind initiated by illiteracy and usually accompanied by a bottle of inflated ego...in most cases rot gut and mental unbalance l
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Posted: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 12:25:12 AM

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Magical_felix wrote:


I am not sure if you are tired.


I am assured of it. I am giggling. You are very funny at times. Keep it funny and not nasty
Magical_felix
Posted: Thursday, August 14, 2014 8:56:41 AM

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NickiC wrote:


Keep it funny and not nasty


I cannot promise that.

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Posted: Saturday, August 16, 2014 2:44:16 PM

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Can a president have a motive to create racial division? Is possible he garners more political votes due the division? Instead of being a leader and calm tensions till the facts can get out he actuall adds to the tension with comments he makes. Instead of calling off protesters he allows hard core protesters to get invovled. Almost all these incidents end up having facts that prove these decissions weren't racially motivated.
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2014 11:55:10 AM

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I myself am not racist though I was raised by people who are to an extent racist. So yes i do see things how they taught me. But do not let that change how i act with anyone.
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In my mind I can be occasionally, but it NEVER changes how I treat someone. And now I feel like a terrible person for admitting that Fugly



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Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 7:30:13 AM

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racists exist everywhere...no country is spared. Humans are basically wired like that.
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Posted: Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:44:44 PM

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Well son of soil..is always a theory..to be respected..it is expected..from the people from else where to be respectful to the place where they come to..don't they say be like romans when in Rome..regarding color well you always..be aspirational but that doesn't mean you don't respect..the other color
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Posted: Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:45:06 PM

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Well son of soil..is always a theory..to be respected..it is expected..from the people from else where to be respectful to the place where they come to..don't they say be like romans when in Rome..regarding color well you always..be aspirational but that doesn't mean you don't respect..the other color
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Posted: Friday, October 3, 2014 8:42:43 PM

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Like people are saying here we all can be a little racist.
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Posted: Friday, October 3, 2014 10:14:56 PM

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Warrior_Ink wrote:
If we're being honest... I'll have to admit that there are certain racial and cultural elements of people who are a common sight in my corner of Canada. These are things that I see, or hear, and I get uncomfortable. That makes me a textbook racist.

In my own defense, I try to overcome these things. I understand where they come from. I've had both East Indian landed immigrants and Gitxsan First Nations treat me horribly in the past. It was only recently when I heard someone conversing rapidly in Punjabi that I was overcome by a surge of hatred... then I realized what I was feeling and felt shame instead.

So, yeah. If we're being honest. It's not a comfortable thing to talk about.


Agreed..
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