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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2011 3:37:07 PM

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Atheist aren't angry at something that does not exist. Follow logic, or the logic one might have if an atheist, we do it for those who implore the beauty of a divine entity. Although there is an argument against that as well. What can be hated is the middle ground rhetoric and flimsy beliefs. Oh, you have a vociferous argument against religion, wow, then you must be angry. Meany atheist.

Oh, I don't believe in all that bad stuff, I believe in the good stuff. It has a non-definitive role until needed. Kinda like salvation on law away.

Either you do, or you don't. Just have conviction behind that which you do believe and cut out the half belief.







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Posted: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:01:37 PM

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Both sides get so hateful and bitter IMO. Both extremes are crazy. The only people I would want to even talk about this stuff with are people with half belief and not dead set in what they think and call others stupid for disagreeing. How can anyone be so sure, and then get so rude about it?
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Wow this is pretty heavy stuff for LUSH don'tcha think? Personally (and this is OPINION not fact), I think big "R" religion which involves specific dogma ends up perhaps unintentionally alienating people who are spun up more by the dogma than by the underlying love of God and humanity. I'm not atheist, I suppose you would call me agnostic... I have never studied religion so I'm no expert but believe in spirituality and in being a good human to my fellow humans.... I kind of think John Lennon got it right with "Imagine"
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hobbhorn wrote:
Wow this is pretty heavy stuff for LUSH don'tcha think?

I kind of think John Lennon got it right with "Imagine"


Well, Think Tank is the one place here where the heavy stuff is welcomed. :)

I agree with you about Lennon. Thanks for chipping in.
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Posted: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:57:25 PM

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By no means am I an avid Russell Brand fan but I really enjoyed this interview and I thought it had some relevance to the topic

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Posted: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:29:18 PM

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Very nice, a somewhat bigger fan of his now having seen that. Not to seem ever worldly or well read, but the words "to thine own self be true," came to mind during that.

The "grey sludge" is ever present, but as long as one is true to a belief, and not the quagmire (giggity) of a mixed vegetable stew of reasoning, then I think there will be some progress trying to understand this whole thing.

Man will become extinct before religion I think, and before we actually get an answer.
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Posted: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:18:26 PM

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eviotis wrote:
The "grey sludge" is ever present, but as long as one is true to a belief, and not the quagmire (giggity) of a mixed vegetable stew of reasoning, then I think there will be some progress trying to understand this whole thing.


So you dont question at all your believes? if you believe something is right it just must be and dont ever think maybe some part is right and others might not be your cup of tea?

Well i guess thats one of the things i love about human beings not everyone think the same and that doesnt mean that the other person is wrong. Theres my truth theres your truth and then theres the truth!
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Posted: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:25:02 PM

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Hence the, "to thine own self be true." As i mentioned previously, I am not into what is cool, what is palpable, what is polite or current. The truth is true to each.
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Posted: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:40:53 PM

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eviotis wrote:
As i mentioned previously, I am not into what is cool, what is palpable, what is polite or current.


Good finally we agree on something!!. BTW google translate is getting tired of your old english words lol i read a lot of Shakespeare in Spanish i guess i should change it up a little and start reading it in English!

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Posted: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:59:24 PM

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Sorry, bad habit. I am often told that my words are sometimes arcane (out of date, really freaking old school).

Let see if this makes sense. Quando tu esquchar claro su corazon, sus palabras es mas claro.

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Posted: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:26:34 PM

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eviotis wrote:
Sorry, bad habit. I am often told that my words are sometimes arcane (out of date, really freaking old school).

Let see if this makes sense. Quando tu esquchar claro su corazon, sus palabras es mas claro.



Dont worry i always listen hard and clear to it and always follow it.

BTW worst google translate ever!! Cuando escuchas a tu corazon, tus palabras son mas claras!
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Posted: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:51:52 PM

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Might be, but you got it. Thanks for the clarification as well. Spanglish takes it toll.
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Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:22:45 AM

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eviotis wrote:
Very nice, a somewhat bigger fan of his now having seen that. Not to seem ever worldly or well read, but the words "to thine own self be true," came to mind during that.

The "grey sludge" is ever present, but as long as one is true to a belief, and not the quagmire (giggity) of a mixed vegetable stew of reasoning, then I think there will be some progress trying to understand this whole thing.

Man will become extinct before religion I think, and before we actually get an answer.




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At least dog's are real and respondent. Giggity (Chef).
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Posted: Monday, May 2, 2011 5:05:37 AM

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Slightly off the topic but still relating to religion................. We found out that our local Bishop has been forced to retire early by the Pope because 5 years ago this Bishop sent out a message stating that maybe we should consider letting priests marry as well as start ordaining female priests. Evidently some 'Do Gooders' complained to the Vatican and now the poor sod is out of a job. Goes to show you don't want to express an opinion even these days for fear of God's appointed coming down on you like a ton of bricks.


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Posted: Sunday, January 8, 2012 12:06:43 PM

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Religion will never die it is a club that has too many benefits.
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Posted: Monday, January 9, 2012 8:25:30 AM

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Religion is one of those things that people turn to when they're pretty much at their lowest. It's nice to think that there is a God up there somewhere, watching down on us, and when we die, we won't jsut be subjected to an eternal darkness. Well, some of us might....eek. But religion's never going to die because a lot of people need to have something to base their life on.
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Posted: Monday, January 9, 2012 9:05:59 AM

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I very highly doubt that organised religion will ever completely disappear in any country although it does seem that many of the larger religions (Christianity, for example) are dwindling (still huge, right enough).

On the other hand, some small religions (like my own) are growing worldwide and will (hopefully) continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

The way I see it is we're in a period of transition. The "old religions" seem to many increasingly irrelevant and, essentially, nonsensical. More and more we are seeing people dabble in more 'spiritualistic' endeavours, exploring the possibilities and finding their own path to personal enlightenment. We are more liberated to do so these days; it's socially acceptable to be atheistic or agnostic.

I have to agree with Emilia above - people are always going to need something to get them through and for many that thing is religion.

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Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:10:32 AM

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Religion will continue as long as there are gullible people who will pay money to keep it going. There will always be people who will take their money to organise a "church" and "explain the world" and "intercede" with the god(s) because it is easier than working for a living.

Remember Epicurus:

If god is willing but unable, he is not omnipotent.
If he is able but unwilling, he is malevolent.
If he is able and willing, whence comes evil?
If he is neither able nor willing, why call him god?


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Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:26:09 PM

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Science does a lot of things really well but "why" is not one of them, unless you're describing system. People need something to believe in, be it a set of principles, an ideology, their family or God. Since the existence of God cannot be disproved, I expect that religions will never disappear. The number of believers as a percentage may drop, but people will continue to believe and perhaps with increasing fervor as they come into conflict with the world around them.
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