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lafayettemister
Posted: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:54:26 AM

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White House plan for regulating school discipline based on gender

President Barack Obama is backing a controversial campaign by progressives to regulate schools’ disciplinary actions so that members of major racial and ethnic groups are penalized at equal rates, regardless of individuals’ behavior.

His July 26 executive order established a government panel to promote “a positive school climate that does not rely on methods that result in disparate use of disciplinary tools.”

“African Americans lack equal access to highly effective teachers and principals, safe schools, and challenging college-preparatory classes, and they disproportionately experience school discipline,” said the order, titled “White House Initiative On Educational Excellence.”

{snip}

“What this means is that whites and Asians will get suspended for things that blacks don’t get suspended for,” because school officials will try to level punishments despite groups’ different infraction rates, predicted Hans Bader, a counsel at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Bader is a former official in the Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights, and has sued and represented school districts and colleges in civil-rights cases.

“It is too bad that the president has chosen to set up a new bureaucracy with a focus on one particular racial group, to the exclusion of all others,” said Roger Clegg, the president of the Center for Equal Opportunity.

“A disproportionate share of crimes are committed by African Americans, and they are disproportionately likely to misbehave in school… [because] more than 7 out of 10 African Americans (72.5 percent) are born out of wedlock… versus fewer than 3 out of 10 whites,” he said in a statement to The Daily Caller. Although “you won’t see it mentioned in the Executive Order… there is an obvious connection between these [marriage] numbers and how each group is doing educationally, economically, criminally,” he said.

The order created a “President’s Advisory Commission on Educational Excellence for African Americans.” {snip}

The progressive’s campaign for race-based discipline policies also won a victory in Maryland July 24.

The state’s board of education established a policy demanding that each racial or ethnic group receive roughly proportional level of school penalties, regardless of the behavior by members of each group.

The board’s decision requires that “the state’s 24 school systems track data to ensure that minority and special education students are not unduly affected by suspensions, expulsions and other disciplinary measures,” said a July 25 Washington Post report.

“Disparities would have to be reduced within a year and eliminated within three years,” according to the Post.






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Posted: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:14:55 PM

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I thought that was supposed to be the idea of "equality" and non discrimination. Doesn't matter what race, creed,color or religion you are, you're judged on your actions/performance. Seems to me this widens the gap further instead of closes it.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:00:03 AM

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Thomas Jefferson said "Equal rights for all .Special privileges for none"We have created a society where it has become easier for an us against them philosophy.America was supposed to be a melting pot where societies blended in to one for the common interest,instead we have formed a microcosm of thousands of differences.Be proud of who you are and where your ancestors came from but remember we are all Americans.Maybe if we adopt that thought we can get our country back.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 1:02:47 PM

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I clicked on the article and I dont understand how they make the leap that whites and asians are gonna be suspended for infractions that blacks wont. And what about mexicans? and arabs? Does it apply to them too? Seems like its more about making sure that that blacks arent suspended for the same things others might not be suspended for. I mean I have seen it myself. I got away with a lot shit in school, fights, skippin class, disrupting class, I even stole the janitors golf cart once and fucked it up... The principal was nice to me, she liked me overall and didn't want to fuck my shit up. In this same school I saw some black friends get suspended for bullshit, cussing, talking in class, being tardy too many times. It was clearly not fair.

I may have misunderstood but I doubt the president, with elections coming up would make a policy to punish whites and asians unfairly. Doesn't make sense...

Seriously though. If kids behave themselves then this shouldn't be an issue. Study and don't fuck around and you'll be fine kids.



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Posted: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 5:40:17 PM

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“A disproportionate share of crimes are committed by African Americans, and they are disproportionately likely to misbehave in school… [because] more than 7 out of 10 African Americans (72.5 percent) are born out of wedlock… versus fewer than 3 out of 10 whites,” he said in a statement to The Daily Caller. Although “you won’t see it mentioned in the Executive Order… there is an obvious connection between these [marriage] numbers and how each group is doing educationally, economically, criminally,” he said."

Roger dear, you're a racist and don't even know it. More so, you're an idiot for even making that statement, which leads one to realize you are an ill-read fucktard, and do not even have an iota of historical knowledge. Congratulations.

As for what I assume to be a rhetorical question.

"And what about mexicans? and arabs? Does it apply to them too?"

Are they white? No? Then, pretty much.

Back to Roger in the article.

Equal justice under the law: By the Fourteenth Amendment the powers of the States in dealing with crime within their borders are not limited, but no State can deprive particular persons or classes of persons of equal and impartial justice under the law.

Read much Roger?

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Everyone should be treated exactly the same despite race or creed. Anything else is preposterous and racist! Punishment for rules offenses should be administered without any consideration of race or creed at all. It should be a non-factor. When it becomes a factor that is racism.

You are invited to read Passionate Danger, Part II, a story collaboration by Kim and ArtMan.
http://www.lushstories.com/stories/straight-sex/passionate-danger-part-ii.aspx

LadyX
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lafayettemister wrote:
White House plan for regulating school discipline based on gender

President Barack Obama is backing a controversial campaign by progressives to regulate schools’ disciplinary actions so that members of major racial and ethnic groups are penalized at equal rates, regardless of individuals’ behavior.

His July 26 executive order established a government panel to promote “a positive school climate that does not rely on methods that result in disparate use of disciplinary tools.”

“African Americans lack equal access to highly effective teachers and principals, safe schools, and challenging college-preparatory classes, and they disproportionately experience school discipline,” said the order, titled “White House Initiative On Educational Excellence.”

{snip}

“What this means is that whites and Asians will get suspended for things that blacks don’t get suspended for,” because school officials will try to level punishments despite groups’ different infraction rates, predicted Hans Bader, a counsel at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Bader is a former official in the Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights, and has sued and represented school districts and colleges in civil-rights cases.

“It is too bad that the president has chosen to set up a new bureaucracy with a focus on one particular racial group, to the exclusion of all others,” said Roger Clegg, the president of the Center for Equal Opportunity.

“A disproportionate share of crimes are committed by African Americans, and they are disproportionately likely to misbehave in school… [because] more than 7 out of 10 African Americans (72.5 percent) are born out of wedlock… versus fewer than 3 out of 10 whites,” he said in a statement to The Daily Caller. Although “you won’t see it mentioned in the Executive Order… there is an obvious connection between these [marriage] numbers and how each group is doing educationally, economically, criminally,” he said.

The order created a “President’s Advisory Commission on Educational Excellence for African Americans.” {snip}

The progressive’s campaign for race-based discipline policies also won a victory in Maryland July 24.

The state’s board of education established a policy demanding that each racial or ethnic group receive roughly proportional level of school penalties, regardless of the behavior by members of each group.

The board’s decision requires that “the state’s 24 school systems track data to ensure that minority and special education students are not unduly affected by suspensions, expulsions and other disciplinary measures,” said a July 25 Washington Post report.

“Disparities would have to be reduced within a year and eliminated within three years,” according to the Post.


1. The racist mouth-breather that made the leap from the actual content of the Presidential Order to "Everybody, panic! Black kids aren't going to get punished anymore!" should be on everybody's pay no mind list. In fact, his identification as such should be his last mention, ideally. I mean, really, I wonder if he really read the whole thing. Even if he did, he read it through the same old pejorative "here's another freedom-stealing, money-spending, community organizing idea from our Socialist fake birth-certificate president" filter that's all too common, so his opinion's pretty worthless. "What this means," he says. He doesn't know what the hell it means, and certainly can't jump to the conclusions that he did. Idiot. Though anything with "The Daily Caller" involved immediately sounds my "bigoted conservative" alert in the first place.

2. What a particular state, or county, or city, or neighborhood does with their schools has nothing to do with this executive order. Because there's nothing in the order that specifically addresses discipline in terms of how it should be handled (other than, appropriately, obviously), it's specious to somehow tie Maryland's actions this White House's order toward better opportunities. Calling this his "race-based discipline policies" is misleading and false, in other words. But hey, he's a socialist, so let's just say whatever we want regardless of it's validity, then grumble about freedom and stuff.

3. Everything the President points out about the historical and present-day realities for African Americans in schools is absolutely true. He's choosing to do something about it. You might think "what about the other races", and of course, every ethnicity has it's issues, you can't solve them all at once. He's choosing to focus on one with this initiative, trying to shore up the unique challenges inherent in the African-American experience.

4. If we're going to focus on the little bit that the order does focus on discipline, then let's do so. Or, hell, since it's been implicated, let's discuss the so-called "race-based discipline policies" from Maryland. Here's it's mission, in its own words: "to ensure that minority and special education students are not unduly affected by suspensions, expulsions and other disciplinary measures." Unduly. As in, subject to inappropriately harsh or quick punishment based on race. It happens. They're trying to avoid it. We can sing kumbayah, quote Jefferson, and talk about being a post-racial society all we want, but it doesn't make it true. These issues remain, in society and in schools, and they're trying to rectify it. I'd like to think we all would like to rectify it. But pretending the issue of race isn't causing skewed opportunities and trends is not helpful (to minorities, anyway. In effect, it's highly effective for the status quo).

lafayettemister
Posted: Thursday, August 02, 2012 7:04:59 AM

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Here is the actual part of the initiative that pertains to discipline...

(vi) reducing the dropout rate of African American students and helping African American students graduate from high school prepared for college and a career, in part by promoting a positive school climate that does not rely on methods that result in disparate use of disciplinary tools, and by supporting successful and innovative dropout prevention and recovery strategies that better engage African American youths in their learning, help them catch up academically, and provide those who have left the educational system with pathways to reentry;





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LadyX
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I read it in the white house press release: still trying to figure out what in that warrants the conclusions drawn by the usual suspects.
Magical_felix
Posted: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:15:23 AM

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lafayettemister wrote:
a retarded thread.


I don't know if you actually believe this that you posted or if you just want to post something ridiculous to waste everyone's time or what. Like what is the point?

Do you and whoever wrote this article think that the way they are going to balance the rate of discipline in this country is by punishing whites more instead of punishing blacks fairly like they do with other races? So they believe that they are going to make whites "catch up" with black suspension rates by suspending whites more often? Like they are just gonna make stuff up to suspend whites for no reason? Or are they proposing the rules be applied fairly no matter the race? The answer seems obvious to anyone that doesn't still drag their knuckles on the ground.

I just don't get the point of posting this thread unless you actually believe this... If you don't believe this retarded ass opinion how is this not just laughed off as a joke. That's what it is. I mean is anyone here actually thinking that Obama wants to suspend whites and Asians more because that is what he thinks will help bring equality to the way discipline is handed out? Lol

I mean I clicked around that American renaissance website you got this from (a perversion of the word renaissance to be honest) the comments to articles... Seems like the users believe that every problem in America is caused by Obama, liberals, minorities, immigrants and gays.



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The whole thing just seems like some conservatives' way of taking something the President did and extrapolating the possible outcome to the worst possible scenario, to the point of absurdity. This is a popular exercise among conservatives, then they congratulate each other on websites like the Daily Caller for "standing up for freedom and liberty."

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lafayettemister
Posted: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:45:25 AM

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Magical_felix wrote:


I don't know if you actually believe this that you posted or if you just want to post something ridiculous to waste everyone's time or what. Like what is the point?

Do you and whoever wrote this article think that the way they are going to balance the rate of discipline in this country is by punishing whites more instead of punishing blacks fairly like they do with other races? So they believe that they are going to make whites "catch up" with black suspension rates by suspending whites more often? Like they are just gonna make stuff up to suspend whites for no reason? Or are they proposing the rules be applied fairly no matter the race? The answer seems obvious to anyone that doesn't still drag their knuckles on the ground.

I just don't get the point of posting this thread unless you actually believe this... If you don't believe this retarded ass opinion how is this not just laughed off as a joke. That's what it is. I mean is anyone here actually thinking that Obama wants to suspend whites and Asians more because that is what he thinks will help bring equality to the way discipline is handed out? Lol

I mean I clicked around that American renaissance website you got this from (a perversion of the word renaissance to be honest) the comments to articles... Seems like the users believe that every problem in America is caused by Obama, liberals, minorities, immigrants and gays.


A. I don't recall posting "a retarded thread". Maybe I did somewhere and you searched to find it. If not, don't misquote me.

B. I did not offer any opinion for or against the original article. I posted it as a discussion starter since in the last few weeks I've found the forum to be a bit slow. So I posted something controversial. Feel free to turn the channel and surf elsewhere.





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Magical_felix
Posted: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:55:04 AM

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lafayettemister wrote:


A. I don't recall posting "a retarded thread". Maybe I did somewhere and you searched to find it. If not, don't misquote me.

B. I did not offer any opinion for or against the original article. I posted it as a discussion starter since in the last few weeks I've found the forum to be a bit slow. So I posted something controversial. Feel free to turn the channel and surf elsewhere.


But haven't you been posting in the forum the past few weeks? And it's been slow anyway? How is that possible!?

laughing8

So your solution is more of the same? Your solution is to spread racist rhetoric on a sex site? That's your solution to liven up the forum? Repeating clearly racist opinions?

That is like me posting an article from a sexist website stating that women are inferior to men. What is the point of that other than firing up the women on here?

You said discussion... So what is your opinion? Why did you post this, other than for us to point out how stupid it is? Don't make me educate you on what a discussion is too, Socrates.




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Magical_felix wrote:


But haven't you been posting in the forum the past few weeks? And it's been slow anyway? How is that possible!?

laughing8

So your solution is more of the same? Your solution is to spread racist rhetoric on a sex site? That's your solution to liven up the forum? Repeating clearly racist opinions?

That is like me posting an article from a sexist website stating that women are inferior to men. What is the point of that other than firing up the women on here?

You said discussion... So what is your opinion? Why did you post this, other than for us to point out how stupid it is? Don't make me educate you on what a discussion is too, Socrates.




Racism is a vile and evil thing. The more it can be brought to light, the easier it will be to get rid of. Absurity needs to be seen. Maybe you should stop making assumptions. Again with the "education". If you want to discuss, then do so. Keep the ugly attitude to yourself. Have a nice day.





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Magical_felix
Posted: Thursday, August 02, 2012 11:13:29 AM

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lafayettemister wrote:




Racism is a vile and evil thing. The more it can be brought to light, the easier it will be to get rid of. Absurity needs to be seen. Maybe you should stop making assumptions. Again with the "education". If you want to discuss, then do so. Keep the ugly attitude to yourself. Have a nice day.


So you are telling us extreme conservative opinions are racist? Oh okay, how...revolutionary.

You did this by spreading their word while offering no opinion? Lol

I think you like my ugly attitude. I mean you changed your forum sig right after I dared to question what the hell you we're posting. You wanted to bring attention to me engaging you, obviously you like to play the victim. Means you must like my attention. I'm questioning you again, and again you are acting like a coward. But of course there are some Americans like that. You're like a lush chicken hawk, if you will.





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Magical_felix wrote:


So you are telling us extreme conservative opinions are racist? Oh okay, how...revolutionary.

You did this by spreading their word while offering no opinion? Lol

I think you like my ugly attitude. I mean you changed your forum sig right after I dared to question what the hell you we're posting. You wanted to bring attention to me engaging you, obviously you like to play the victim. Means you must like my attention. I'm questioning you again, and again you are acting like a coward. But of course there are some Americans like that. You're like a lush chicken hawk, if you will.



You and your behavior have absoultely nothing to do with anything I do. Coward, yea you go ahead and believe that. Not engaging in your little games doesn't make me a coward, it makes me above you and your pettyness. Nice jab using "Americans" to try to raise some patriotic ire. I'll just ignore you now so as to not flame you ego.





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Ok, so...what's your take on it, LM?
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shut the fuck up, both of you. Jesus Christ, what is it with you guys that you have to pull out your cocks and start beating each other with them. i thought this was a think tank, not a dick tank. debate all you want, but don't reduce it to petty name calling and stupidness. i am so sick of this shit right now that even i am stooping to your level. wtf.

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sprite wrote:
shut the fuck up, both of you. Jesus Christ, what is it with you guys that you have to pull out your cocks and start beating each other with them. i thought this was a think tank, not a dick tank. debate all you want, but don't reduce it to petty name calling and stupidness. i am so sick of this shit right now that even i am stooping to your level. wtf.


My apologies Ms Sprite. I didn't start this thread with the intention of starting a pissing fight.





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segregation in schools.. how 1950's of them.... oh wait its 2012... this is stupid
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SatinBatty wrote:
segregation in schools.. how 1950's of them.... oh wait its 2012... this is stupid


What does this have to do with segregation?
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LadyX wrote:


What does this have to do with segregation?



the whole idea of giving out different penatlies based on race stupid idea
lafayettemister
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I'm not a racist. Nor am I a coward. I hate and despise racism in all it's forms. Not that I need to defend myself but I feel the need to disassociate my name with that term. As difficult as it is I'm not going to stoop to your level. You know nothing about me, NOTHING. So your assumptions and opinions about me carry no weight. None whatsoever.





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ramrod32784 wrote:
Thomas Jefferson said "Equal rights for all .Special privileges for none"We have created a society where it has become easier for an us against them philosophy.America was supposed to be a melting pot where societies blended in to one for the common interest,instead we have formed a microcosm of thousands of differences.Be proud of who you are and where your ancestors came from but remember we are all Americans.Maybe if we adopt that thought we can get our country back.


That was so well said. I consider myself a Constitutionalists because of my strong beliefs in what our for fathers envision this country to be. I think things have gotten out of hand and people forget that we are Americans it don't matter the color of our skins or where are ancestors have come from. I'm proud to be a melting pot of different races myself, which even includes Chickasaw. I am now and will always be an American. I have served in the Army was in Desert Shield/Desert Storm. I would gladly die to help keep this country the way our for fathers dreamed this country could be.

We need to unit as Americans not the different races/skin colors.
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A short note: Whatever needs to be said here, if it has to off-topic at all, do it without the name calling please. Thanks for making this warning necessary.
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the whole idea of giving out different penatlies based on race stupid idea


You're right, except that nothing in the Presidential Order indicates that they'll be giving out different penalties. It's just inflammatory conservative commentary making that assumption.
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do any of you live in the south where we deal with racism on ALL levels//everyday....reverse & ethic based..i do....

my daughter's ipod was stole by a black girl on the day they could bring those those items to school(it was a testing day)

the teachers saw it...told me, but didnt turn the girl in as the,,,/THEY were afraid of being called a GD racist...so i had to go to the principal & threated to call the cops before they brought her ito the office

my boy his first day at public school was hit i the stomach by a black boy..i was THERE sellig popcorn i saw it from 3 feet away ..again zero teachers did 1 dam thig...as he was black...

i bought that boy a popcorn told him that violence was no way to get something he desired..& again went to the principals office as to ask why MY child could get hit in front of 10 adults...

for those two moments...seeig my kids ATTACKED..i was a racist...i was....i am ashamed to say....

bad fucking behavior has no color...

here in the south we are still fighting the hatred of the race war....& yes the blacks ( i call them black as i abhor any term " - american" we are ALL damm americans not africa, irish..etc)

but to me those two instances came rom POOR dam parenting not race..but i saw red when they hurt my kids & zero was done to them.. do to reverse racism

so talk to me when have lived in a small southern town..about racism...i live it everyday....i HEAR that horrilbe "n" word used by white & black people

ps to those who will call me ugly words hear this..if is is YOUR child that GETS hurt you too will become MAMA bear....

I very much doubt that a lot of you on this thread have had ever encountered this..before....so..before u call out others...look to what YOU have experienced

the only difference ni people are their levels of education & compassion(ps xcuse the typo's as the puter is kaput)
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Maybe we should ask Dan Cathy what he thinks about all this!!
Magical_felix
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lafayettemister wrote:
I'm not a racist. Nor am I a coward. I hate and despise racism in all it's forms. Not that I need to defend myself but I feel the need to disassociate my name with that term. As difficult as it is I'm not going to stoop to your level. You know nothing about me, NOTHING. So your assumptions and opinions about me carry no weight. None whatsoever.


I know stuff about you...

What I don't know is what your opinion on this is yet. You still haven't explained why youre spreading racist rhetoric. I mean we know racism exists so that excuse is a little weak.

So you're saying that you're re-posting this racist article to simply inform us that racism is alive and strong in America? Is that your only defense?

I mean you have admitted before that you post things to just piss people off. Is this one of those things? Posting articles that make racism a joke? Is this the mastermind Lafayette at work again?



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Magical_felix wrote:
So you're saying that you're re-posting this racist article to simply inform us that racism is alive and strong in America? Is that your only defense?

I mean you have admitted before that you post things to just piss people off. Is this one of those things? Posting articles that make racism a joke? Is this the mastermind Lafayette at work again?


Is there room up there Jack, to stand next to you, on your bully pulpit milk crate?

If someone is going to create a thread starting post, which refers back to an article anywhere from the internutz, especially in The Think Tank - he or she should at the very least...type out their own idea(s) - along with their URL hotlink and alarming copy-n-paste rhetoric they've retrieved from elsewhere.

Otherwise, that person could be construed as silently agreeing with whatever commentary or hotlink they are simply billboarding.

Your audience doesn't know if you're actually trying to shine a flashlight on the cockroaches, attempting to highlight hypocrisy or corruption, calling truth to power - or being a propaganda stooge/tool.

Just passing along hot air to attempt to get a reaction - works well in the Lounge, The Pub, any of the relationship threads...(that is part of the schtick, show & flash)

In The Think Tank - your opinion and comments matter, and give the rest of us the opportunity to determine what we think about you. If you don't give a shit about your online persona ... simply post inflammatory URLs and links back to sexist, racist, homophobic, militaristic/corporatist - anti-social bullshit and then... don't add your own comments.

Leave it up to people (like Jack and myself - and others) to call you out. To us...when you don't say anything to clarify your own position - we think you are agreeing with what was spit out on the internutz... at whatever shithole website you found the tripe which you wanted to share with the Lush community.

There are unspoken forum rules, and those rules have been since the dawn of community billboard systems. Learn 'em or suffer the public education. That is, if you give a shit about your anonymous online personality.

There is still room on this soapbox - if anyone wishes to stand up here next to Jack and I.


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