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danni69
Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2012 1:09:11 AM

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FOR FUN NO FOR MONEY YES
Sirene_Jaune
Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2012 1:13:33 AM

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I have seen my boyfriend play poker on line and I know he has lost heaps of money on it. This judge is a moron. Gambling is gamling no matter if it's the races, betting on sports games or playing cards.

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Magical_felix
Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:06:18 PM

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WellMadeMale wrote:


I'll play ya - for items of clothing, PA.

For coin? Nope.. I get all skeezy feeling when gambling for money, for some odd reason.


I'd feel skeezier with the former.

And seriously, this may just be the most ridiculous thing you have ever said. Yeah... gambling makes you feel skeezy... It's the gambling that finally made you feel skeezy... Gambling? Really? Not some croaky voiced bar slag about 6 happy hour margaritas in? You may fool the kids, but you don't fool me. You don't fool me, man.

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SexySophie
Posted: Sunday, August 26, 2012 1:53:33 PM

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If Poker's not gambling - then the Pope's not a Roman Catholic.
SydneySider
Posted: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:29:28 AM

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If you place your (I can see people splitting hairs, stop) money on the table, hand it to a bookie, or even your best mate in a game of paper scissors rock in order to win more money, its gambling. End of story...If how ever its a free roll and it costs you nothing, then you're not risking your own money, so I would just call it entertainment lol..

WellMadeMale
Posted: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:21:25 AM

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Magical_felix wrote:


I'd feel skeezier with the former.

And seriously, this may just be the most ridiculous thing you have ever said. Yeah... gambling makes you feel skeezy... It's the gambling that finally made you feel skeezy... Gambling? Really? Not some croaky voiced bar slag about 6 happy hour margaritas in? You may fool the kids, but you don't fool me. You don't fool me, man.

laughing8



I used to feel pretty skeezy if I stayed around til 2 am last call (provided I wasn't already in no shape to drive), so I quit staying out past midnight, not for fear I'd turn into a pumpkin...but for fear the beer goggles would start to work and I'd be chewing off my arm around 5 am and taking a Listerine shower as soon as I could get it out of my residence (or I could find my keys & car and drive home the next morning rush hour).

A lot of things have always made me feel skeezy, Jack. But gambling makes me feel the skeeziest. I don't expect you to understand that, since you enjoy the activity. I've just watched the activity/addiction ruin too many people close to me. Friends, family, etc... That's what trips their adrenalin trigger. They don't know when to quit. They can't help themselves. Their serotonin and endorphins are firing off on the activity. I get that.

One woman I know, makes 70k a year...she's in her mid 50s, has always had a good career. Had a nice year in 2004 @ the local casino boats. Didn't withhold any of her winnings to file and pay Uncle Sugar what he wanted. She's been fucked by the IRS ever since. Why? Cuz she was convinced she was going to keep winning and she'd eventually pay the tax. She won close to 700k that year, the next two years, she lost about 600k. You'd say she was up 100k (except she never paid a dime in taxes). I've asked her to call me when she gets that urge. She never calls before...she calls me afterwards...to spill her shame. She knows that I know what that shit is all about. She's signed documents to prevent her from entry at all the casinos within the KC are...but she's found a little Indian casino some 100 miles (one way) which she slides out to every 4 or 5 months and loses her paycheck. She then scrimps for two weeks to get her head above water again.

It's her only vice (she claims).

She's addicted to the lights, the crowd, the excitement, the everything in that atmosphere. The rush of winning and I think, even the disappointment of losing! She can't really 'win' to drag money out of the places anymore. Anything over $500 (or some such) she gets noticed. So why does she do this?

I know the feeling (I was addicted to something else, equally if not more sinister, once).

I once sat down at an Indian ran casino in Minnesota in June 1993. Went there with a pair of cousins I hadn't seen in ages. They were married and wanted to 'go out' that night while we were all on vacation (fishing trip). They each went through $300 a piece playing poker for about 7 hours. They win, they'd lose, win, lose, etc...

I sat at the bar where I could watch them, drinking cheap gin & tonic and tossing quarters into a joke/poker machine. By the time they came to get me to leave the joint around 4 in the morning... I had won about $1300 and had pails of quarters sitting at my feet on the floor I needed to cash in (another $500). I told myself I'd lose $20 and that would be it. I'm up about $1800 for my lifelong casino gambling.

We all went back to that casino the next afternoon (just out of curiosity). That joke poker machine had been removed.

I've never again stepped foot inside a casino to gamble. I'll go for the buffet occasionally. evil4

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DirtyMartini
Posted: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 5:53:13 PM

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Magical_felix wrote:


Were you winning or were you stuck? And for how much c'mon, lush needs some good poker stories.


I believe I lost about $300 over the 27 hours...I was up over $500 at one point, but it's hard to keep winning and not make bad calls when you've been playing for 27 hours...not to mention the free drinks...it was a 2/4 table at Caesers btw...

I had actually intended to leave much earlier...I think after about 12 hours, but Caesars has a huge parking garage, and I couldn't find my car...I would have looked for it longer, but it was the middle of winter, the garage was unheated and freezing...so, I decided to go back inside and sit down again, put up $100, really only planned to sit there a while until I warmed up and then go back and look for my car...but, I started winning and ended up playing for another 15 hours straight...

True story...can't make this stuff up...


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elitfromnorth
Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 4:28:24 AM

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So if poker is strictly gambling, then there really shouldn't be anyone that's good at it. If poker is gambling then everyone knows that if I sit down with those that are ranked as the best poker players in the world I would have as big a chance as them to win, but who in here thinks that I have the slightest chance against them? It's simply because it's not all about chance. Sure, I have the same chance to get a royal flush as the best one, but the cards you get isn't even half of the game. If it was all down to chance then we should have blackjack tournaments and roulette tournaments and so forth.

So those of you who say poker is gambling on the same line as blackjack and roulette I ask you this; what is it that differs poker from blackjakc and roulette and the other casion games, since they have poker tournaments? Why are there no roulette tournaments?

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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:09:56 AM

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elitfromnorth wrote:
So if poker is strictly gambling, then there really shouldn't be anyone that's good at it. If poker is gambling then everyone knows that if I sit down with those that are ranked as the best poker players in the world I would have as big a chance as them to win, but who in here thinks that I have the slightest chance against them? It's simply because it's not all about chance. Sure, I have the same chance to get a royal flush as the best one, but the cards you get isn't even half of the game. If it was all down to chance then we should have blackjack tournaments and roulette tournaments and so forth.

So those of you who say poker is gambling on the same line as blackjack and roulette I ask you this; what is it that differs poker from blackjakc and roulette and the other casion games, since they have poker tournaments? Why are there no roulette tournaments?



I don't think anyone took away from Poker what is really about that game, however as different as it is, it is gambling. Maybe, when playing we are not gambling just with cards, but with our instincts and how good they are that day, how familiar we are with opponents, how well we can read them, but at the end of the road,we are gambling.

As I said, no one said that poker is just gambling with cards, whoever is familiar with the game is aware of it.
elitfromnorth
Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:59:01 AM

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She wrote:



I don't think anyone took away from Poker what is really about that game, however as different as it is, it is gambling. Maybe, when playing we are not gambling just with cards, but with our instincts and how good they are that day, how familiar we are with opponents, how well we can read them, but at the end of the road,we are gambling.

As I said, no one said that poker is just gambling with cards, whoever is familiar with the game is aware of it.


Poker isn't a game strictly based on chance, which is the definition of a gambling game; that it's only gamble. Strip away "cards" from that sentence and put in stocks/shares instead and suddenly you're pretty much describing Wall Street or Nikkei or any other stock market you wanna go to. If poker is gambling, so is buying and selling shares, goods, currencies and so forth, and then that should be illegal as well.

Just because you're putting your money on something doesn't make it gambling. When you buy a house, will you consider it gambling? The house may drop in value rapidly for a short period of time(something we've all seen). Putting money in your education could result in a backlash because suddenly there are no jobs for people in your field. And if gambling is per definition outlawed, then they better start building new prisons because they're gonna need it.

So if gambling is based on nothing but chance, then poker isn't gambling. If gambling only need to involve a little bit of a chance then living your life just became illegal.

"It's at that point you realise Lady Luck is actually a hooker, and you're fresh out of cash."
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Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:42:07 PM

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elitfromnorth wrote:
Poker isn't a game strictly based on chance,


True

elitfromnorth wrote:
a game strictly based on chance,which is the definition of a gambling game; that it's only gamble.


not as much

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gamble
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Gambling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling
(can somebody please teach me how to change name of links that I copy/paste? I would be grateful occasion5 )

elitfromnorth wrote:
Strip away "cards" from that sentence and put in stocks/shares instead and suddenly you're pretty much describing Wall Street or Nikkei or any other stock market you wanna go to. If poker is gambling, so is buying and selling shares, goods, currencies and so forth, and then that should be illegal as well.

Just because you're putting your money on something doesn't make it gambling. When you buy a house, will you consider it gambling? The house may drop in value rapidly for a short period of time(something we've all seen). Putting money in your education could result in a backlash because suddenly there are no jobs for people in your field. And if gambling is per definition outlawed, then they better start building new prisons because they're gonna need it.

So if gambling is based on nothing but chance, then poker isn't gambling. If gambling only need to involve a little bit of a chance then living your life just became illegal.


I understand what kind of point you are trying to make, I just don't completely agree with you. To let myself sound cheesy, Life is gambling, you don't know the final results of it, and there are things you cannot influence on. Problem with poker and cards is that they are highly addictive.. Illegal, legal doesn't really matter to me, however on second thought I would say illegal, it's sexier this way :)
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