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LadyX
Posted: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 3:06:19 PM

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Maggiecat wrote:
because they built it


They didn't build that! laughing8
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Posted: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:24:57 PM

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They didn't build that! yes they did Romney choose Ryan to be his vice pres., so the did built it...they built a team....lmao!
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Not unless the administration does/has something seriously bad happen.
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Romney & Ryan and the GOP are back to endorsing this guy (with money) silently. That Senate seat is the most important goal, you know...never mind what he said. Aside from making Obama a one term President, pay me and I'll get you what you need.

Write me a decent check and you'll catch my attention!



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1ball
Posted: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:46:11 PM

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LadyX wrote:


Who's upset? I feel it's important that we understand the difference between broadcasted rhetoric and real action when the differ. I'm sorry you feel it's unworthy of pointing out, we'll agree to disagree on this point.


Real action is how they vote. The rest is pretty much just lying to get reelected. You don't make the mistake of listening to speeches and debates, do you? Those minutes of your life are wasted.



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LordOmega
Posted: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:28:06 PM

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Okay I feel I need to speak up here.

1) Yes I am white
2) I am not rich
3) I am one of the millions of Americans without Health Care
4) I am also one of the people that helped bring Obama's number's to 8.1% by dropping off the employment roles

Now why do I say this. Because it is easy to say, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It is easy when you are in a position like I am to think that the people with money are out to get you and that there will never be a way to have the "Middle Class" we had under William Jefferson Clinton. However.

All of that is false.

First, everyone in this country that has a job draws a paycheck because of the profit a company makes. If they do not make a profit they close. If the owner is not making money he lays off.

Having owed three businesses in my life I can tell you that there are a number of things you can control. Production Costs, Materials Cost, Labor Cost and of course Marketing and PR Costs.

There are things you can not control. Government Regulations, Tax Rates and Percentage Rates.

When the Government increases those things that a business owner can not control. And makes then higher. The business owner has to make up the money some where. Either increase the price of the good or decrease the cost of making it. He can only do that with the things that he controls. See the first list above.

When people tell you that raising taxes increases government income it is a false statement. All it does is increase the income that is moved overseas.

The solution to jump starting this economy is in decreasing the corporate income taxes, freeing up people who have capital to invest to invest that capital without harsh penalties and get the government out of the way of the business owner. Then he will attempt to make more money.

How?

Increase production - Hire more workers, or increase advertising
Increase diversity of product line - Hire more workers and increase the materials needed to create

The government creates nothing. Only private industry.

There is nothing wrong with private industry making money. If the people of Lush feel that money isn't needed. Then I say there is no need to charge for a Gold Badge. Just spread them around to everyone and who cares if the money is there right?

No that is not realistic. As it is not realistic for the top 5% of income earners to support the bottom 95%. The math never works that way.

Can Romney/Ryan win? I think so and I hope so.

All that said, I want everyone to know I understand that this is my opinion. I use factual numbers to support it only. I respect other people's opinion and think it is fantastic that we live in a society that allows us to have a place like Lush and also to hold a discussion like this in our Forums. Kudos to Lush and to all the people that are helping to foster debate. That is the basis of our freedoms.

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LadyX
Posted: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:03:27 PM

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1ball wrote:


Real action is how they vote. The rest is pretty much just lying to get reelected. You don't make the mistake of listening to speeches and debates, do you? Those minutes of your life are wasted.



Speak for yourself on time wasted or not; but everything an elected official does within the capacity of his position is "real action", including what they purport and broadcast to hold true, and especially how they act on behalf of their constituents. i.e. allocation of the same government funds that they make careers out of labeling excessive and wasted. Hypocrisy and lies do not cease to be hypocrisy and lies in the public arena. We're all subject to being called on our hypocrisy should we engage in it. To narrow the scope of scrutiny to only a fraction of a politician's actions is to carry water and make excuses for them. I'd rather not bullshit myself, but I can see how it makes it easier for you to support a politician if you do.
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Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:44:56 AM

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to lady x...a question please if i may....if obama wins,could the gold badges here be free....because i'll be even poorer then i am now! (its a joke haha)
LadyX
Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:57:08 AM

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Maggiecat wrote:
to lady x...a question please if i may....if obama wins,could the gold badges here be free....because i'll be even poorer then i am now! (its a joke haha)


LOL If it were up to me absolutely!

(but it's not, so...I doubt it happy8 )
1ball
Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:24:56 AM

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LadyX wrote:
Speak for yourself on time wasted or not; but everything an elected official does within the capacity of his position is "real action", including what they purport and broadcast to hold true, and especially how they act on behalf of their constituents. i.e. allocation of the same government funds that they make careers out of labeling excessive and wasted. Hypocrisy and lies do not cease to be hypocrisy and lies in the public arena. We're all subject to being called on our hypocrisy should we engage in it. To narrow the scope of scrutiny to only a fraction of a politician's actions is to carry water and make excuses for them. I'd rather not bullshit myself, but I can see how it makes it easier for you to support a politician if you do.


Politicians are professional liars. If you call them on all the lies and hypocrisy they spout, you render yourself moot. Same as if you only do that for half of them.

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Only not voting in an election renders one moot. Observing how an elected official conducts his office is basic due diligence. One might choose to dismiss it selectively, as you apparently do, but just because dishonesty and venality are commonplace in politics doesn't mean that elected officials somehow deserve to be given free passes on it.
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Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:04:20 AM

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LadyX wrote:
just because dishonesty and venality are commonplace in politics doesn't mean that elected officials somehow deserve to be given free passes on it.


As if you really have an effective choice, other than running for office yourself.

You would have a congressman cut his district out of the pork trough because he's against the existence of the trough. His position is that the trough should be gone, and keeping a place for his district at the trough until it's gone is a reasonable way to get his position to become policy. It's a case of "We're all going to steal from the country's future together or none of us are, because fair is fair, right?".

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Once again we have heard from a Barry Soetoro voter, sad who these people are, this is from Bedford Hts. on 26 Sept '12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio She is talking about her "obama phone" and her foo stamps. God I know we used to have a great country but where did it go? Why did we let it slip away?
LadyX
Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:18:28 AM

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1ball wrote:


As if you really have an effective choice, other than running for office yourself.
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LOL true. And I'm too smart for that.

HardNReady12
Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:19:00 AM

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LadyX wrote:


LOL If it were up to me absolutely!

(but it's not, so...I doubt it happy8 )


Unfortunate but true BTW Why is Hitler better than Barry? Hitler got the Olympics...........
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Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:19:54 AM

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HardNReady12 wrote:
Once again we have heard from a Barry Soetoro voter, sad who these people are, this is from Bedford Hts. on 26 Sept '12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio She is talking about her "obama phone" and her foo stamps. God I know we used to have a great country but where did it go? Why did we let it slip away?


Hey, I love my Obama phone! You don't have one? It's awesome. There's a food-stamp app and everything. evil4
LadyX
Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:21:07 AM

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HardNReady12 wrote:


Unfortunate but true BTW Why is was Hitler better than Barry? Hitler got the Olympics...........


Why is was...what? I'm unable to piece a sentence together from that. Can you rephrase it?
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lafayettemister wrote:
Meanwhile, in Florida.....

-- A college professor at Brevard Community College (BCC) in Cocoa, Fla. has been placed on leave after she allegedly required her class to sign a pledge to vote for President Barack Obama “and Democrats up and down the ticket."

Campus Reform reports that professor Sharon Sweet at BCC allegedly told students to sign a pledge that states: “I pledge to vote for President Obama and Democrats up and down the ticket.”

The pledge came from “GottaVote.org,” a website paid for by the Obama campaign.

University administrators said they learned about the incident late Thursday afternoon and launched an investigation, after they received a phone call from a concerned parent.

“Based on the allegations, Associate Professor Sweet has requested, and been granted, a leave of absence without pay effective immediately,” reads a statement put out by John Glisch, Associate Vice President for Communications at BCC.

“The college will continue its investigation into the matter, which will include interviews with all students in her class,” continues the statement.

In addition to being inappropriate action in the classroom, Sweet’s pledge requirement may have also violated Florida election law.
Section 104.31, of Title IX in chapter 104, states that “no officer or employee of the state… shall… use his or her official authority or influence for the purpose of interfering with an election or nomination of officer or influencing another person’s vote or affecting the result thereof.”

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People are losing their minds and all perspective with this election. Craziness abounds.
Ditto
HardNReady12
Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:25:55 AM

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LadyX wrote:


Why is was...what? I'm unable to piece a sentence together from that. Can you rephrase it?

Ok for you slower folks, Hitler got the Olympics in '36. Barry couldn't get them for Chicago.
LadyX
Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:26:48 AM

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HardNReady12 wrote:

Ok for you slower folks, Hitler got the Olympics in '36. Barry couldn't get them for Chicago.


LOL. By slower folks, do you mean users of correct grammar?

Who cares about Hitler's Olympics?
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HardNReady12 wrote:
Ditto


Dude, don't quote me and implicate me in your stupidity.





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naughtynurse wrote:


Humane Society of the United States. The group that makes heart wrenching ads utilizing famous people and lots of pictures of starving puppies. They actually are a lobbying group that uses less then 1% of their funding for shelters; they are not actually connected with local animal shelters. PETA rescues more puppies(although both groups typically slaughter the animals they "rescue") I personally find HSUS more revolting then PETA, as PETA is upfront about the fact that they are a lobbying group. I don't agree with PETA, but I respect their rights to have their own opinions. HSUS is underhanded and projects itself to be above board and helpful, in reality the donated dollars go to lawyers and the executives.


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CoopsRuthie wrote:


The Randian wing of the Republican party thinks nothing of putting selfish interests ahead of the country's interest. It's what their philosophy is all about. It's more important to them to gain power so that they can privatize more than it is to help run the country.


I think the GOP's goal of making Barry a one term President is well founded. In Jan '09 we owed $10.626T today it's over $16T. In Jan '09 Gas cost $1.84 today $4., Jan '09 there were 15M fewer people on food stamps. Average unemployment under W, 5.26% today, 43 months over 8.3%. The lowest work force in 31 years, and the lowest number of males employed ever, EVER. Yea I want that to stop. Call me silly but we can't afford 4 more under Barry. This lady, and I use the term very loosely, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio I know the program was started under W, but that is not the point. This lady gets her free phone and her foo stamps, no that's not a typo, that's what she says "foo stamps" and a ride to the polls to vote too, I bet. The madness must end. One term Barry.
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I just wanted to say that Lush members with very few exceptions are bright, informative and civil in debate on both sides, unlike most political blogs that resort to pettiness and ill informed hate mongering and it's a pleasure to be a small part of the process.Big Hugs
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tazznjazz wrote:
I just wanted to say that Lush members with very few exceptions are bright, informative and civil in debate on both sides, unlike most political blogs that resort to pettiness and ill informed hate mongering and it's a pleasure to be a small part of the process.Big Hugs


Glad to have you be a part of it! icon_smile
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R&R still have a chance, but it appears to be growing slimmer by the day. You might check out 538.com for a breakdown of all the polls and trends, then decide for yourself.

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stephanie wrote:


As Obama continues to wade through eight years of Bush engendered shit, incidentally blocked at every attempted reform by a vindictive Republican congress, Romney and Ryan lie, pander and patently back-flip in an effort to woo America.

Offering platitudes and empty passionless promises, and backed by mega-billion dollar corporations (who REALLY care about ordinary people...) these two men seem to be using soft soap and snake oil in an effort to hoodwink America into selling its soul.

Can they do it?

xx Steph


I guess being Irish, you don't remember the 8 years under W, Average unemployment was 5.26% to day is 8+ for 43 months now. Gas was $1.84 when Barry was installed, today $4 a gal. There are 15M more people on food stamps than under W. The permits for drilling for oil on public lands has been scaled back by 44% in the last years. The size of the work force is the smallest in 31 years, that's back to the last worst Pres. peanut farmer, Jimmy, and the lowest number of males in the work force ever. Gentle Ben Bernanke dumped $23B more money in the system in Aug. and is dumping $80B a month, adinfinitum into the system because QE3 sounds bad after QE 1 and QE 2 didn't work. The number of new federal imperial gubmint regulations has grown to an alarming rate, "These paperwork burdens are real, often ignored, and continue to grow," reads the analysis. "According to White House data, there were 8.8 billion hours of federal paperwork in FY 2010. The implementation of Dodd-Frank and the Affordable Care Act has driven this figure to 10.38 billion, an increase of 1.5 billion hours. To put this increase in perspective, assuming a 2,000-hour work year it, would take 771,999 full-time equivalent employees simply to fill out red tape. Or, during the same amount of time, workers could construct 220 Empire State Buildings."

His estimate is close to the $1.7 trillion estimate from the Small Business Administration which the White House distanced itself from. For comparison, the total U.S. GDP is $15 trillion.

The wave of Obama regulations has become a huge sore point in the business world with groups as large as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce down to the International Franchise Association crying for fewer rules. The administration, however, argues that the rules and regulations pushed out under the president have made products and workplaces safer.

Below are some of the estimates from Crews' report:

- A Baseline for Aggregate Annual Economic Regulation Costs: $373 Billion.

- A Baseline for Aggregate Annual Social Regulation Costs: $406 Billion.

- Additional Executive Agency Major Rule Costs Presented by OMB (But Not Tallied): $22.3 Billion.

- Independent Agencies' Annual Regulatory Costs: $4.58 Billion.

- Other Independent Agency Paperwork Costs: $21.56 Billion.

- Dep't of Agriculture: $9.05b

- Dep't of Commerce: $1.801b

- Dep't of Education: $3.032b

- Dep't of Energy: $9.089b

- Dep't of Health & Human Services: $184.805b

- Dep't of Homeland Security: $55.331b

- Dep't of Housing & Urban Development: $1.827b

- Dep't of the Interior: $5.321b

- Dep't of Justice: $1.253b

- Dep't of Labor: $121.987b

- Dep't of Transportation: $64.226b

- Dep't of the Treasury: $$1.32b

- Environmental Protection Agency: $352.997b

- U.S. Access Board (ATBCB): $851mil.

- Federal Acquisition Regulation: $1.356b

- Independent Agency and Certain Sectoral Regulatory Costs Antitrust: $2.34b

- Federal Communications Commission: $141.58b

- Financial Services: $102.46b

- Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (paperwork): $336mil.

- Federal Trade Commission (paperwork): $2.85b

- Consumer Product Safety Commission: $193mil.

- EEOC: $122mil.

- Nuclear Regulatory Commission, plus paperwork: $414mil.

- E-gov (paperwork): $380mil.

- NASA (paperwork): $107mil.

- Nat'l Science Foundation (paperwork): $231mil.

- Small Business Admin (paperwork): $43mil.

- Social Security Admin (paperwork): $1.06b.

- Privacy Regulation: $1b.

- Immigration Restrictions: $12b
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HardNReady12 wrote:


I guess being Irish, you don't remember the 8 years under W, Average unemployment was 5.26% to day is 8+ for 43 months now. Gas was $1.84 when Barry was installed, today $4 a gal. There are 15M more people on food stamps than under W. The permits for drilling for oil on public lands has been scaled back by 44% in the last years. The size of the work force is the smallest in 31 years, that's back to the last worst Pres. peanut farmer, Jimmy, and the lowest number of males in the work force ever. Gentle Ben Bernanke dumped $23B more money in the system in Aug. and is dumping $80B a month, adinfinitum into the system because QE3 sounds bad after QE 1 and QE 2 didn't work. The number of new federal imperial gubmint regulations has grown to an alarming rate,


In July 2008, gasoline prices were 4.40 per gallon. Gas prices increased 275% while he was president. The price you quote was after failing markets began to bring us into recession. Oil prices world wide declined during that period from July until Obama took office. The decline had nothing to do with Bush, except in so far as his failed economic policies led to world wide economic collapse.

Current prices on oil have little to do with production. The price is artificially high now because of market speculation. Most of the rhetoric that conservatives use gas and oil prices is based on myth. They want to keep subsidies high, allow oil companies to drill with little or no regulation, and enrich themselves with futures trading in the oil market. If you would bother actually looking into things rather than just quoting the lies and propaganda that you're told on Fox news and right wing radio, you could learn these things on your own.



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I've been told that the banking crisis of 2008 isn't something you can really blame on a former or sitting president, but was a result of the practices of Alan Greenspan during his time controlling the Fed.

Anyone care to comment on this as Greenspan served through a number of administrations, both Dem. and Republican.

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