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Dancing_Doll
Posted: Saturday, January 15, 2011 2:33:06 PM

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When you're reading an erotic story, do you care if the story or plot is believable?

Some writers pay attention to creating believable plot lines, or using character development to justify their (sometimes immoral) actions. Often you can see the progression that leads to the 'shocking' dirty sex.

Other writers just write something as a pure fantasy where, for example, walking into your office one day and gangbanging all your coworkers before morning coffee may not be realistic, but might make a great story. Similarly the "I walked in on someone masturbating and we immediately fucked each others brains out" is another common 'plot device' that doesn't necessary seem very realistic.

As a reader, do you prefer stories that are more believable or are you willing to just suspend reality altogether?



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Posted: Saturday, January 15, 2011 2:43:34 PM

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I was always told my college tutor's, even if you believe the story to be true never believe it 100% that it is!

So when I read stories I just take it for the enjoyment it gives me. I just want a good and detailed story!
WellMadeMale
Posted: Saturday, January 15, 2011 3:09:36 PM

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some sense of reality is required.

Fucking each other when you're operating a sportscar at any speed, let alone 190 km down the Autobahn, tends to cast believability out the moonroof.

I've enjoyed and endured numerous scenarios in my life, which other people would undoubtedly call: "Bullshit" upon, so I can believe a lot of stuff, as long as it's fairly well spelled out for me.

Vampires fucking werewolves or Raquel Welch jumping 'your' bones at the mall, or elves sodomizing hobbits, I'll leave to others to enjoy.

And, yeah...just reading about an Aunt or Grandfather, suddenly catching their 16 year old niece or grandson masturbating in the pool or barn stall or on the rooftop, then joining in for some family fun, while chlorinating the water, shoveling shit or adjusting the antenna...

I don't think so.



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DirtyMartini
Posted: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:29:17 PM

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Just want to say that all my stories are perfectly believable...icon_smile

Also want to add that whether or not a story is believable, there are people out there who cannot separate fantasy from reality anyway. I've been doing this for a while now, and after quite a few stories, most of which I think are obviously a bit far fetched, there are people out there who seem to think they are all true...
I had a guy write me back in the summer of '09 wanting to know the identity of one of the girls in a story of mine. I wrote him back telling him it was not a true story, and briefly trying to explain the concept of fantasy to him to no avail. He wrote me back three more times asking the girl's identity because "he thinks he might know her, and just wants to see if it's the same girl."

I don't think a scenerio has to be completely believable if it is a well-done, entertaining story. There are quite a few stories I've read that seem unlikely scenerios at first, but the story was so well told and detailed that it made me wonder if it did in fact really happen.
And no, I'm not talking about vampires fuckin werewolves, or Santa getting blown by the Easter Bunny or some of the things Jeff mentioned, but I think you know what I mean...

On the other side of the coin, I've read some stories with rather ordinary scenerios, and the stories were so poorly told and described that I had to wonder if the person writing it had actually ever had sex before...

I think we've all read a few of those...


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Posted: Saturday, January 15, 2011 9:36:46 PM

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in a word, yes. now, i'm not asking that the stories i read actually be true, but i find that, when i'm reading an erotic work that doesn't deal with aliens, supernatural, etc, if it starts skirting the line of believability too much, i will focus more on why it's not believable then in... well, getting off on it. even minor things might play into this - such as over use of triple EEE sized breast, unbelievable characters or charater actions, plots that are just too contrived to be true, that kind of thing - too much of that and i honestly just lose interest in the story. also, if someone's writing about a subject they obviously know little or nothing about and it's something i have a lot of experince in, yeah, it's going to spoil my enjoyment.

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Posted: Sunday, January 16, 2011 4:10:08 AM

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Posted: Sunday, January 16, 2011 4:59:48 PM

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I don't care. Most of the stories on lush would never happen in real life. If the author makes it interesting enough I don't mind some unbelievability as long as the author follows the rules they set up.



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Posted: Sunday, January 16, 2011 7:05:17 PM

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I definitely prefer an erotic story to have some believability.
Paddler
Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 12:30:00 AM

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I agree with Sweet Penny and Sprite. I like some grounding in reality.

The actual sexual encounter may be far fetched if you think back and analyze it, but if the basis is grounded in reality and the story elements are consistent, the story can work.

Some of my Candy Stroker series takes place in a hospital. It's very likely that a modern hospital has a male septuagenarian patient who has been aroused by girdles, garters, and stockings since 1950. But it's rather unlikely that he'll be attended by two nurses in sexy lingerie who are willing to give him the thrill of a lifetime.

However, if the willingness of the nurses to take risks for a quick sexual thrill and their prior interest in lingerie is established, the reader (who wants it to happen) is quite willing to suspend disbelief, and the story works and soon the reader makes a mess.

My point is that writers set up the story to make the unlikely parts plausible.


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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 4:31:43 AM

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For me the bottom line is this... If I cannot picture me in the story? It does not matter how great the story is... I will not continue reading it. Part of the reason I cannot read certain genres of stories.

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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 5:25:27 AM

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It is 'fiction', if it conveys a feeling that it 'could' happen, then I tend to enjoy it more. Character development is a bonus.
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:25:16 AM

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Paddler wrote:
The actual sexual encounter may be far fetched if you think back and analyze it, but if the basis is grounded in reality and the story elements are consistent, the story can work.

Some of my Candy Stroker series takes place in a hospital. It's very likely that a modern hospital has a male septuagenarian patient who has been aroused by girdles, garters, and stockings since 1950. But it's rather unlikely that he'll be attended by two nurses in sexy lingerie who are willing to give him the thrill of a lifetime.

However, if the willingness of the nurses to take risks for a quick sexual thrill and their prior interest in lingerie is established, the reader (who wants it to happen) is quite willing to suspend disbelief, and the story works and soon the reader makes a mess.

My point is that writers set up the story to make the unlikely parts plausible.


What some people may decide is unbelievable, occurs all the time around us, and only rarely is visited by public view.

Nurse loses license for 20 years over sex with hospice patient

(If one of our authors had written the above scenario, as a work of fiction...I could believe it; aren't nurses - by nature, nurturing and compassionate, human beings? The few I've met, were also quite sexual and adventurous. In other words, Paddler...I believe your scenario mentioned above - is plausible, although I have not read your version.)

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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 1:19:13 PM

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for me, it's more important that the details be completely realistic and the story not so. For instance, if the green clown with the big nose is fucking the fat lady or maybe the tooth fairy, i can accept it, and even be entertained if the mood is set realistically and the actions are logical and interesting : )

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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 4:46:06 PM

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I like all stories, but they can't be crazy. Ther has to be some Wenceslas to them for me. I wouldn't want to read a story about some guy who met a bunch of playmate and then had kinky wild sex with him. There is no truth and it then becomes stale and boring.
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 4:46:12 PM

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Totally depends on the premise. I don't mind a story being unrelastic if the writer knows that and doesn't pretend to ground it.

However if the Author is atempting to write a story where there is a posibility of it happening then yes reality is important.
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Posted: Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:09:00 PM

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For me, it depends on the type of story. I enjoyed Roger and the Lesbian Elves which was definitely not believable, but you wouldn't expect it to be. On the other hand, if it is a story about a cheating wife, then her motivations and actions need to be believable, even if they are extreme.
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Posted: Saturday, January 22, 2011 7:04:04 PM

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If it's something scientific, like the maximum velocity of yogurt floating in space, I probably wouldn't care because I don't know what that is in the first place. That would probably only serve to annoy the few people that actually know that. But it would certainly annoy me if we simply threw two people together into an elevator, it jams, and they just start to rut like wild baboons. I'd probably still read it, but it would be an agitated orgasm. The only thing that would make me completely abandon a story because of the ludicrousness of the situation would have to be eye-rolling worthy. Like a group of young, sprightly cheerleaders decided to gang rape the old senile janitor or something.

I like to know why things are happening and that they are happening because of a good and believable reason.

If the janitor looked like Brad Pitt and he'd actually secretly been screwing all the cheerleaders before and they had just found out he had been playing them against each other. They decide to get revenge by gang-banging him into unconsciousness, well, I'd probably read that because it seems viable.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:38:04 PM

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I like a bit of reality if the story occurs in the here and now. For example, descriptions of incredibly perfect specimens of humanity in stories tend to turn me off (DDD breasts coupled with a 24 inch waist, 10 in penises with six-pack abdominals). I like a bit of physical as well as moral imperfection in heros and heroines. However, if you are writing science fiction or fantasy erotica, suspension of disbelief is part of the fun.

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2706ali
Posted: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:48:24 AM

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to capture my interest ,it has to have a sense of realism to it,the writer has to capture my mind and take me to where the story is set.....has to be believable......
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Posted: Saturday, January 29, 2011 3:38:07 AM

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I'm usually more concerned as to whether the characters and the interaction between characters is believable. I hate perfect characters- must every woman be slim and beautiful and every man muscled with a giant penis? Like Woman mentioned above, I like to be able to picture myself in a scenario.

If the writing is good enough to immerse me in the world of the story, it doesn't matter what the world is, I believe it. If the characters feel like they belong, feel like real people, I believe it, and I enjoy it. That's the part that matters to me.

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Posted: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:17:18 AM

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Good writing is good writing.

Good writing makes me believe in anything that that is committed to the page - I've read werewolves/vampires stories that makes me want to go howl at the full moon while being ravished by a supernatural being in a field of flowers.
I've also read straight sex stories that makes me want to fall dead asleep.

A fiction story is believable if the author believes in it and takes the time and care to write it well, no matter how outlandish the premise.
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Posted: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:15:22 PM

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I am working on a time traveling story set in the Cretaceous period. My character beams down from a starship to go Tyrannosaurus hunting, gets separated from the hunting party, stumbles upon another time traveling Christian Creationist who happens to look like Raquel Welsh. She also is a former porn starlet who found god and posted updates about it on her Myspace page.

Short story, we do it like they do on the Discovery Channel. Caveman, jungle monkey, multiple position sex in a Stegosaurus nest, surrounded by freshly laid eggs.

It's pretty kinky, I admit. But...I think I can make it work AND make it believable.

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Posted: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:27:22 PM

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WellMadeMale wrote:
I am working on a time traveling story set in the Cretaceous period.


Would you include a special appearance by the penisaurus pants?

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Posted: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:25:13 PM

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It depends. I think it's important, but if it's a fantasy story then obviously it won't be normal. However that doesn't mean it can't be believable! You just have to set up the story so the reader understands it, then it will be believable.
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Posted: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:28:08 PM

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Well it does need to be enjoyable. Be well written, and exciting. I try to put my self in the place as I'm reading and if I can't do that then there's a problem. No it doesn't have to be believable, but good.

Well that's just my opinion, sorry if you don't like.

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Posted: Saturday, February 05, 2011 5:02:22 AM

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Apart from 'Lauren', which is apart from some minor points a true story, I like to make my stories at least plausible. I think it's more erotic if you know what you're reading might actually have happened even if it's far-fetched.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 8:39:18 AM

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I might be echoing a few answers, but I tend to be immersed in a story's setting given what is written keeps my attention. Sometimes, a premise just sounds too far fetched for the guidelines set by an author and I will stop reading.

Though, if a story is initially presented as being a stretch of the imagination (time travel, supernatural, sci-fi, etc) then I will allow for unusual physical proportions, or the uncanny ability for every woman to come to a crashing messy orgasm with the most naive manipulation of their intimate areas. Sometimes, guys in stories need to be based in reality truthfully. From what I've seen, the average twenty-something male can't cum 5 times in a hour unless they've just hit puberty.

I don't care if it is fantasy, recovery time is one quality that can't be exaggerated even to suit a story's purpose.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:07:33 PM

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of course it more personal and the ability to get in to it more the better!!!
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Posted: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:20:07 AM

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I think it has to be somewhat believable... whatever that means. Just not too crazy.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 9:46:00 AM

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I prefer reading a story rather than a description of an experience.

The most import part of a story plot is conflict. The characters need to face a problem and then reach some sort of resolution. By far, the majority of the erotic "stories" I read, are simply descriptions of an experience that the characters had with no conflict.
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