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nicola
Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 12:47:53 AM

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Twice in a week Damon?

As per Ejls' post, I received a warning email about 4 months ago through an account at asstr. I was in 2 minds to post the warning here for a variety of reasons. The primary one for not posting was it would help show how easy it is for these thieves to steal any work they find on the web, and try to sell it via Amazon's channels.

I'd contact Amazon straight away. They are fairly quick at removing work. The trouble is, if the thief is getting any sales whatsoever, they will simply create a new username, and do it all again.

I believe Amazon should really be doing more in terms of tracking these thieves (IP addresses, email addresses, paypal accounts, bank accounts etc - they have to be able to get the money somehow), as well as verifying the legitimacy of ownership of the work put up for sale in the first place.

Best of luck getting it removed and that account banned Damon. Please let us know how it goes.




Iszofia
Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 5:13:16 AM

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sprite wrote:
Dancing_Doll wrote:
sprite wrote:
i was wondering, since Amazon has a place for reviews that go with the storie, if it would help for one of Damon's fans to write a review there stating it's been stolen?


I submitted a a rather scathing review on one of the stories yesterday (about how it was stolen) to see if it would get approved on Amazon. It's up today! I'm going to add it to the other stories as well. I wonder if Elizabeth Summers reads these. :)

I guess I am a rabid fan? Ldevil


i read it! *hugs* beautiful! you go, Doll!


Yes it does, fans of other authors she's stolen from have written reviews saying she is a thief and who the stories really belong to.
and the thing is some of her stories have gotten bad reviews, hopefully they were her own stories and not plagiarised, cos that would suck for the real author.
TracyAmes
Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 11:08:22 AM

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I need your help. After looking at the links posted on this thread, a few pals and I were pretty effing disgusted. We've decided to blow this out of the water...aka launching a PR blitz on our sites, Amazon, social media, and encouraging our fans and bloggers to do the same. The more attention we garner the better.

This is where you come in. We need as much supporting info (links, names of the real authors & false if available, & so on) as you can dig up. It's difficult to ignore facts. We've also enlisted the help of our publishers (this sort of BS makes them look damn good!). Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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MorganHawke
Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 1:11:07 PM

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TracyAmes wrote:
...It's difficult to ignore facts.


Which is why a writer's best protection is a personal Author site with a Full List of their stories. This way all you need is a single link to make your point.

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TracyAmes
Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 1:29:28 PM

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Exactly! I wonder why more writers don't have their own place on the web.

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nicola
Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 3:03:35 PM

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TracyAmes wrote:
Exactly! I wonder why more writers don't have their own place on the web.


Especially with so many sites like blogger.com who give away free hosting and site templates.

Quote:
Start writing your own blog - see this excellent blogger article on blog promotion.

Recommended free blog hosts: blogger.com / wordpress.com / bloglines.com


The other side of the coin is many amateur writers are not interested in being published, they are happy to submit to sites like lush only.

That sounds a big project you are undertaking Tracy, good luck with it. Amazon should really be held more accountable for what they allow to be sold via kindle in particular.
TracyAmes
Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 2:27:42 PM

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Oh, I'm up for it! Someone lifted my earlier work and without the help of others I wouldn't been screwed. Creative people, published or not, have to stick together or we'll find ourselves stuffed in cubicles. *cringe*puke

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nicola
Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 2:30:15 PM

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TracyAmes wrote:
or we'll find ourselves stuffed in cubicles. *cringe*puke


Please don't give me nightmares!
TracyAmes
Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 6:03:13 PM

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LMAO! It's too scary to fathom.

Tracy Ames
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“Writing is a socially acceptable form of schizophrenia.”
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MorganHawke
Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 7:19:12 PM

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TracyAmes wrote:
Creative people, published or not, have to stick together or we'll find ourselves stuffed in cubicles. *cringe*puke


Been there. Was NOT a happy place.

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DirtyMartini
Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 11:49:27 PM

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TracyAmes wrote:
Creative people, published or not, have to stick together or we'll find ourselves stuffed in cubicles. *cringe*puke


That does sound pretty scary...

Will I have to go back to school to get a degree in that???




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DirtyMartini
Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2011 8:18:23 AM

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Hey All...I was told by an author on another site that there is another moron out there stealing other author's hard work...

She has identified at least 20 stories this latest idiot has stolen...I don't know who all here may be affected, but he has five pages of stories on his blog site...

Here is the link...
http://www.thoughts.com/search/yarhoo


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_mal_
Posted: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:36:08 PM

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That is completely awful and I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you are able to disrupt their efforts. Good luck!

So, here's a question...

Someone obviously sees your stories as something that can make money. Ever think of selling your stories and make a little profit off your endeavors? idea1
Buz
Posted: Monday, August 22, 2011 5:35:32 AM

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Plagiarism is stealing. It is a low down thing to do!





peachbuta
Posted: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:00:43 PM

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A) I love your stories.... just sayin'
B) That link is no longer valid so maybe she's been shut down already?
C) You could probably contact Amazon directly with your dispute and they may be able to give you her real name to bring her to court?
Good luck and I'm sorry.
castlequeen
Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:43:05 PM

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Doesn't appear that anything of mine has been stolen, however, I never, ever knew they published erotica!!! I can certainly try and see if some of my longer story ideas might fly there, and with an assumed pen name, I needn't worry about getting into trouble at work!!!

Spoke too soon, I was Googling titles, I tried text and found several of my stories on other erotica sites, but luckily not for sale. Most have been taken down, but there's someone claiming that they wrote Girl With A Secret, except their publication date was five months after mine. Nice try.

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Guest
Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:05:04 PM

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they stole my stories. I put in the first part of one of my stories on google with quotes and this website showed up. My first story was on this site:


http://leverage-l3.com/Straight/Pages/default.aspx


This was linked on a facebook page and this was the link that popped up when I went to click on it: (My Surprise for Him story was on this site)

http://alb-team.com/
DirtyMartini
Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:18:08 PM

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Yeah, there is a new one someone was nice enough to point out to me yesterday...posted this earlier in a writing group...I'm sure others here are affected...

Oh, here we go again, and this is getting to be way too much of a regular thing, btw... someone contacted me...my story "Olivia's Ordeal" was stolen and the title changed...lucky they noticed it...they changed it from Olivia to Susan, but you can see from the beginning, it is obviously my story...

SUSAN'S IN JAIL
http://www.amazon.com/SUSANS-IN-JAIL-ebook/dp/B006VXPJVK/




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Guest
Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:24:14 PM

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i hit contact us and sent them something saying to delete it now. it's my story and they have it as their featured story in their picture, and it pisses me off that it took me forever to even write my first story and then it ends up being plagiarized. And yes I do know the name under it says Kathy and yes that is my name but it's not me. I'm not 24 or from NY
DirtyMartini
Posted: Saturday, January 14, 2012 11:48:28 AM

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Here you go...someone just shared this in a writing group, and I thought I'd share it here...

Amazon's Plagiarism Problem

Ooops...I deleted the link to that article on Fast Company, because it mentions another site a bit much...it's a good article, but it probably doesn't tell you a whole lot you can't figure out from reading this thread...



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Graham_X
Posted: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:14:20 PM

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MorganHawke wrote:

The best way to keep a story from being stolen is to make it EXTREMELY PUBLIC who that story belongs to. For online stories, an author website -- where you keep the full collection of your free posted stories -- is your best insurance for this. Having an online site will Brand those stories as yours far more effectively than you think.


I started by having a Google blog as they are free and easy to set up. That was before I even discovered this site. I must admit reading through this thread I'm glad I did! I'm not saying my stories are earth shatteringly good but I think I am improving thanks to folk on here.

Just put a new story up called Venus: My Mistress In Leather and Lace. It seems a long time since I have written any prose, been seduced by prosody. Anyway, please feel free to check it out - Thank you xxx
DirtyMartini
Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:18:14 PM

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Btw...so much for thinking making something extremely public will protect plagiarism...actually, nothing other than not publishing it at all will prevent theft...

Here is something I never thought I'd see...my 9-11 Tribute poem, which happens to be, um, extremely public, plagiarized...

And in a church bulletin no less...check the third page...

The Creekside Connection - The Newsletter of the Creekside United Methodist Church
http://www.creeksideumc.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/Creekside_Connection_Oct_2011.301192512.pdf


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Milik_Redman
Posted: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:35:18 AM

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I don't know how I'd react if I found my work had been stolen. I just don't even want to think about it.
DirtyMartini
Posted: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:07:15 PM

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Milik_The_Red wrote:
I don't know how I'd react if I found my work had been stolen. I just don't even want to think about it.


Then whatever you do...don't ever Google your stories...just sayin'

Regarding the above matter I mentioned in the previous post....I sent Pastor Tim this note last night...

Hello Pastor Tim: With all due respect to your church and it's works, and I am certain that you were no doubt not aware of any wrongdoing at the time, but it has been brought to my attention a poem published in your October bulletin on page three, and credited to a "Rodney Sheffar"...here is the bulletin in question...
http://www.creeksideumc.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/Creekside_Connection_Oct_2011.301192512.pdf

Please be advised that this poem was written by me, and published on various sites on the internet in September, 2010 such as this one...
http://exakta66.poetrycraze.com/we_shall_never_forget_9-11_tribute-19337.html

My poem was published extensively last year, as well as used in various ceremonies...always properly credited, btw...
http://www.storiesspace.com/forum/yaf_postst538_My-911-Tribute-poem-has-been-in-print-at-least-fourteen-times-in-2011.aspx

I would like to remind you that plagiarism is a criminal matter, and most decent people would find anything that violates the sanctity of 9-11 rather distasteful. I am leaving it up to you how you want to deal with this, but I would expect at least an explanation and apology in the next bulletin.

Regards,
Alan W. Jankowski


I got this reply from him earlier today...

Mr. Jankowski,
As soon as I started reading your email I knew immediately the newsletter in question. On behalf of Creekside UMC, I apologize for this mistake and any frustrations, stress, and sadness this has caused for you. You wrote this poem and it is a wonderful gift to all those who are still hurting and grieving the loss that we suffered on 9/11. There are many in this small community that are still grieving. Until now, I was completely unaware of this miscredit. We try to screen articles that are submitted for the newsletter, but we did not catch this one. We had no reason to doubt the authorship.

I will be addressing this problem over the next few days in the following three ways. First, we have just pulled the October newsletter from our website out of respect for you and your authorship. Second, I will deal directly with the person who gave us this poem for the newsletter. Third, with your permission I would like to give you credit by re-publishing your poem along with an apology in the February newsletter. Please view the attached file and let me know if we have your permission.

Once again, I apologize for this miscredit. Your poem was published in the October newsletter with the intention of bringing more healing to the hurting and comfort to grieving who feel like their loved ones have been forgotten.

Sincreley,

Pastor Tim Goodman
Creekside UMC


And this is the attachment he provided...haven't written him back yet, but I think he did the right thing...happy8

It has recently come to our attention that a poem commemorating 9/11 was published in our October newsletter that was incorrectly credited in terms of authorship. We sincerely apologize to the original author, Mr. Alan Jankowski, who published this poem as a tribute to those affected by the tragedy of 9/11. For all of you who enjoyed the poem and was encouraged by its words, here it is again in its entirety. It is a true blessing that there are individuals like Mr. Jankowski who are gifted in writing and we thank the author for sharing his gift with the world. May we together continue to seek healing and reconciliation for all those who suffer.

We Shall Never Forget...

9-11 Tribute

By Alan Jankowski
Let the world always remember,

That fateful day in September,

And the ones who answered duties call,

Should be remembered by us all.

Who left the comfort of their home,

To face perils as yet unknown,

An embodiment of goodness on a day,

When men's hearts had gone astray.
Sons and daughters like me and you,

Who never questioned what they had to do,

Who by example, were a source of hope,

And strength to others who could not cope.

Heroes that would not turn their back,

With determination that would not crack,

Who bound together in their ranks,

And asking not a word of thanks.

Men who bravely gave their lives,

Whose orphaned kids and widowed wives,

Can proudly look back on their dad,

Who gave this country all they had.
Actions taken without regret,

Heroism we shall never forget,

The ones who paid the ultimate price,

Let's never forget their sacrifice.

And never forget the ones no longer here,

Who fought for the freedoms we all hold dear,

And may their memory never wane,

Lest their sacrifices be in vain.


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katie1984
Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:54:11 AM

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I have been reading through these posts on this topic and am totally horrified that anyone could take any of my stories from here and use them..especially sell them. My stories are accounts of from my own sexual experiences, which I have chosen to share. They are noone elses property.

And so I have reluctantly decided to remove all my true stories from Lush, and will leave just my fictional work. Its of great sadness to me that this action is required, but I will not have someone else make a profit from my life experiences.

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nicola
Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 2:09:43 PM

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I'm sorry to hear that Katie.

If you post stories anywhere on the web, this can happen. We do our best to prevent it from happening, disallowing copy / pasting on story pages (most other sites do not take this step even), but content thieves who are determined, can always find ways around these things.

Guest
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I've stumbled across a site that seems to be hosting stories from this and other sites on the web, but they are actually crediting authors and linking back to the site that they have been published on. I don't know if this can be called plagiarism, but it certainly seems nefarious. Here's the link http://www.sexsstory.com I've seen a few of my stories and quite a lot of other Lushies here too.

On the subject of having a personal author site, would something like LiveJournal be good for that? I've been thinking about posting my stories on there, so it would be good iof that could afford me some protection by making it easier for me to prove that I wrote those stories.
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Gurlyboy wrote:
... On the subject of having a personal author site, would something like LiveJournal be good for that? ...
I have found http://www.webs.com/ excellent and very easy to use.

News of ALL my novels (and where to get free copies) on charmbrights.webs.com/novels.htm.
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charmbrights wrote:
I have found http://www.webs.com/ excellent and very easy to use.


Thanks, I'll check that out. Is it free?
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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2012 8:45:44 AM

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I had mentioned a couple weeks back about how my 9-11 poem was plagiarized and submitted to a church bulletin...I wrote Pastor Tim Goodman, and he put this out in the current February edition of the bulletin...very nice, and touching btw...happy8

Here is an excerpt...it's on page seven of the bulletin, me thinks...

Corrigendum


It has recently come to our attention that a poem commemorating 9/11 was published in our October newsletter that was incorrectly credited in terms of authorship. We sincerely apologize to the author, Mr. Alan Jankowski, who published this poem We Shall Never Forget as a tribute to those affected by the tragedy of 9/11. It was originally published in our newsletter with the intention of bringing more healing to those who are still hurting and comfort to those who are still grieving. It is a true blessing that there are individuals like Mr. Jankowski who are gifted in writing and we thank the author for sharing his gift with the world. For all of you who enjoyed the poem and were encouraged by its words, here it is again in its entirety. May we together continue to seek to participate in Jesus’ ministry of healing and reconciliation for anyone who suffers.

The Creekside Connection - The Newsletter of the Creekside United Methodist Church
http://www.creeksideumc.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/Creekside_Connection_Feb_2012.27202656.pdf



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