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MorganHawke
Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2011 6:15:40 AM

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The most detrimental problem for a writer, isn’t Failure – it’s SUCCESS.


The Mystery of the Missing Best-selling Authors.
-- You see it all the time. A hot new author puts out book after book, then suddenly the story quality drops, and those books aren’t so wonderful any more. But you keep buying them on the hope that what made them great (in the first 9 books,) will resurface. Instead, that author suddenly drops off the face of the earth; sometimes for years – sometimes forever.

What Happened?

BURNOUT

In the corporate arena, the wildly successful with nothing left to achieve, often turn to self-destructive behavior; drinking, drug use, extramarital sex, embezzlement... just for something to DO.

Authors, become self-destructive too, but internally, rather than externally. They destroy themselves and their relationships, rather than turn to actual crime. Burnout causes many authors to become mentally unstable, neurotically paranoid, and bi-polar, as well as secret drinkers, and prescription-drug abusers. (How many of you take Xanax already?) Authors typically end up in the hospital, rather than in jail.

What causes burnout?
-- One of the primary reasons for burnout in Writers (and high-powered execs) is tedium, ahem BOREDOM. While building your career, you're developing your skills, and experimenting with techniques. With every new revelation, ("Wow! This works!") you feel psychologically rewarded.

Once you have the techniques down, and are recognized for a specific ‘style’ of plot or characters, you become locked in to producing that ONE style, often by the publishing house that recognized you -- and don’t discount your adoring fans! To keep that recognition, you start replicating the same story, over, and over, and over... Dull, dull, dull…

Out of sheer self defense against the mind-grinding boredom, your brain shuts down into Writer's Block. And then your brain -- and your body -- rebels. Exhaustion, mood-swings, health problems that the doctor swears is stress-related...(and this can take YEARS,) until you get total mental and physical meltdown -- BURNOUT.

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“I do a lot of work with white-collar criminals, and invariably -- and I mean invariably -- they're not doing it for the money. They're doing it because they're bored.”
-- Steven Berglas, corporate psychologist who deals with burnout among the ultra-successful.

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-----Original Message-----
Boredom began when I became bored with the sex scenes. (Yawn) Okay, you showed me how to fix that. Then, it was (writing) the series. Oh, yes, the series. That creativity-eating monotony of being locked into "What do I do now?" Oh, yes, how well I understand the series author's pain.

However, I will add one thing: Over-commitment.

Authors are, by and large, a hungry bunch. We love praise, and sparkle when we get it. We succumb so easily to flattery, especially when the publisher that made us successful asks for you to "squeeze in just this little story" for the themed promo, the continuity, or whatever. (I have managed to resist, but not without a modicum of guilt.)

Let's not forget the other form of overcommitment: "Don't put all your eggs in one basket/publisher." Two baskets are good. Three may be pushing. Four is a killer, at least for me.

Writing for different pubs allows the author to stretch their creative muscles, change voices, and even experiment a little. In theory, that's good.

Until they all want your time and effort.

Until you start saying, "I'm sorry, I won't start on the book for you for another three months." One publisher actually said to me, "The fans will forget you in six months!" (They didn't.)

Publishers have their own timetables, and are not above trying to push an author into working harder than they should by moving a deadline or deliberately misunderstanding you. If you say, "I won't start on this book until June," it's entirely possible they'll set the release date for June! It's happened to me three times.

I no longer give them any clues like that.

Lena Austin
-- Multi-published author

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What about money and success? Don’t they offer a sense of accomplishment?
-- At first, but to Keep that success going, to Keep those paychecks rolling in, you strangle your creativity to keep manufacturing the stories that made those paychecks happen in the first place – and put a time-limit on your whole writing career. Tick… Tick… Tick…

In most cases, the problem is NOT with the author, it's with the Publisher. The bigger publishing houses DON’T encourage Change. They encourage stasis -- especially with something that proves successful. They have no desire to fix what ain't broke.

To many of the larger publishing houses, authors are consumable product Manufacturers -- rather like the Pepsi Cola company. The last thing they want is a change in the recipe. But authors AREN’T factories, their work is NOT mass-produced, so this kind of thinking actually encourages author turnover, especially among the best sellers.

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“When you try to get people off that track, they say, "What am I supposed to do? Take my kids out of Exeter, move from Nob Hill?" I say, "Well, what are the alternatives? You loathe your job, and you're gonna take it out on them." This is why you get these flagrant burnouts. When jobs become constraining, we will often do things that will (deliberately) throw us off the fast track.”
-- Steven Berglas

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Is leaving the Publishing House or Quitting the only option?
-- Nope. Leaving one publishing house for another is just as career-killing as quitting altogether. (The publishing world is VERY small. The editors are constantly talking to each other.) Rather than scrapping everything, your books, your publishers, your careers... EXPAND on what you are already doing. Add an interesting twist, or a change in locations.

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“The paradox is that to prevent burnout you need more challenges, not fewer.”
-- Steven Berglas

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What role does stress play in burnout?
-- Stress ISN’T the problem. Stress can actually help alleviate the boredom by making you work harder to get that story down on paper.

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“Stress and burnout are unrelated. Stress is being thwarted from a goal. A traffic jam causes stress. Burnout would be giving a canned lecture every day of the week for four months.”
-- Steven Berglas

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Who is Least likely to suffer from burnout?

Those who are PASSIONATE in their work. The pains in the ass authors that constantly shift their style, their characters, and sometimes their genres, are never bored. These authors tend to avoid writing long-playing series, but instead, have a ton of good-selling, well-written, single-title books.

They’re the ones that publishers point to, and wince. “They could be superstars, if they only stuck to one thing.” And yet, they are far more likely to have steady careers that span decades.

Robert Heinlein
Poppy Z Bright
Andre Norton
Neil Gaimen
Dean R Koontz
Stephen King

These authors are usually passionately supportive of their fellow authors, (even if their fellow authors don’t want to hear it,) because they have a million ideas running through their heads, and aren’t afraid to share. They may not always play well with others, but they are NEVER accused of back-stabbing, or idea theft.

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“Throughout my career, I've noted that the most authentically motivated employees are the ones who will get in your face and get angry. I always counsel managers that the yes-man/yes-woman is the most malicious force in organizational life because they're the ones who are whoring, who are mercenary, who are talking behind your back.” -- Steven Berglas
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Who are candidates for burnout?
-- The wildly successful authors who made their success writing long-playing series of books.

Robert Jorden, for example, bored many of his more passionate readers to tears because his Wheel of Time series, stopped evolving -- and then he Died before he ever finished it. In all honesty, he was a One Hit Wonder. He only wrote ONE story, that story was over a dozen books long, but it was still only ONE story.

Laurell K. Hamilton, is fighting tooth and nail to keep her Anita Blake series going, by adding character after character and a lot of sex.

Jim Butcher is well aware of the danger, and intends to end his Harry Dresden series, and in fact, has already started another series. However, the big question is, will his Publisher LET him stop writing Harry Dresden books? Will his bank account?

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“Let's take an entrepreneur for example; Michael Dell. What did Dell do? He created a distribution system that was both economical and efficient. Ted Waitt, at Gateway, did the same thing. Those two men, I think, are in jeopardy of burning out because they're replicating and refining a single paradigm. When you're changing your product, that's when you're happy.”
-- Steven Berglas

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What can you do early in your career to stay Inspired?
-- KEEP your Passion. If you are stuck doing a series, make sure that the fictional universe you’ve created is big enough to sustain radical shifts in theme, story-line, and characters. Fight boredom by giving yourself room to grow, and change.

“Easy for the fantasy authors, but what about us contemporary authors?”
-- For those of you trapped in the mundane world, try a Location change. Put your established characters in New places, and New situations. Send your characters to other cities, other countries. At least get them fired from their job, and have to deal with a new one.

Already stuck?
-- Try writing a new series, something different from your old one. Contract it with a new publisher, under a new name, if you have to. When a book in one series gets to be too tedious, you can switch over and write a book for the other series, to refresh your mind, body, and creative soul.

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“Stay angry. When you notice you're not committed to an organization anymore, when you don't need to fight for changes, take stock. When Bill Gates handed over the running of Microsoft to Ballmer, he said, "I'm going back to the drawing board." About five other CEOs did the same thing.”
-- Steven Berglas

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How can Publishers & Agents keep from losing their Selling Authors?

STAY CONNECTED to both the authors you work with, and their reading audience.

With the advent of the Internet, the reading market changes faster than ever before. With access to email, instant messaging, weblogs, and fan-groups lists, Authors are no longer isolated. They’re directly connected to other Authors, as well as their fans, and their fans talk to each other.

USE THAT RESOURCE! Don’t leave everything up to the Marketing department. Marketing is all about Packaging --> Advertising. They don't have a clue about managing your bread-winning authors, or dealing with their fans. They’re ‘idea’ folks with a pile of sales numbers on their desks – and those numbers are DATED, usually by months. Authors are actually more aware of the fluctuations in their readers’ tastes than Marketing is. They are connected directly to the source -- the BUYERS.

> Want to know what’s happening in the reading market?
> Want to know where the trends are going?
> Want to know who has buzz -- and who is getting a bad reputation?
> Want to know if your Author is dealing with undue stress – or extreme boredom?

Get your answers straight from the source – the authors you work with, and the readers they talk to. Get a blog and encourage the readers to talk to you directly. Run a poll, ask questions and get answers before you lose that money-making author.

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“If you're a manager and you don't have someone to tell you that you're a fool, then you're in big trouble. Hire a court jester. Just give someone carte blanche to say, "Berglas, you're an asshole." And "Berglas, this is (what’s being said on) the grapevine.

"What managers don't understand is that they will not know (what’s being said on) the grapevine unless they beg for it. The grapevine will give them the negative information (that they can’t get anywhere else)."
-- Steven Berglas

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The Business end is killing me!
-- Them’s the breaks. Publishing IS a corporate business. Dealing with contracts, filing taxes, convincing your family that you need to be left alone to WORK, and handling publicity, is part of the job – and not the fun part.

If you have an agent, you can shunt a lot of the legal crap on them, that’s what they’re there for. However, managing your time and handling Publicity -- going to conventions, book-signings, managing a fan-group, and a building a website to promote your work -- is ALL YOU.

Welcome to the world of Fame.

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Extra reading:

Reclaiming the Fire: How Successful People Overcome Burnout
By Steven Berglas Random House

DISCLAIMER: As with all advice, take what you can use and throw out the rest. As a multi-published author, I have been taught some fairly rigid rules on what is publishable and what is not. If my rather straight-laced (and occasionally snotty,) advice does not suit your creative style, by all means, IGNORE IT.

Morgan Hawke
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GallagherWitt
Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:20:02 AM

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A-freaking-men. It is so, so easy to burn out.

Toward the end of November 2010, I started getting to the point I couldn't write ANYTHING. I usually write at least 75,000 words a month, but it just wasn't happening. Then I stopped and realized that, since May, I hadn't taken more than 4 consecutive days off and had written something like 550,000 words. Solution? I forced myself to take December off. No word count quotas, no making myself finish a draft every month, nada. Unless a story came to me that absolutely demanded to be written, or an editor sent me edits to work on, I was SLACKING.

Within 7 days, a story demanded to be written. Just a little novella, but it came quickly and easily. Wrote it, edited it, sent it off, and resumed slacking. By January, I was back in my groove, and it's been all good ever since. Other times over the last 2 years, I've forced myself to take 2-3 weeks off to recharge, and it works like a charm every time. I call it my self-imposed grounding.

Anyway, that's my ongoing experience with the burn-out demons. Great article!

Lori...who promises to be around more as soon as a few of these deadlines are crossed off the calendar...

Lori
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sprite
Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:06:16 AM

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i have found, whenever i get ambitious and start a series, i need to sort of bounce around, write other things in between, come back to it from time to time and do a chapter, not because i feel i HAVE to, but because i have a fresh idea for it and i really WANT to. Those times i feel i HAVE to write a chapter, it usually shows - it's just not as good as it could be. I'd rather leave something hanging for ia long while than submit something that's just ok, rather than amazing.

As for other writers, yeah, you can kind of tell when they are going thru the motions because their publisher wants a story out of them rather then they feel the pull to write. i have abandoned well loved series because of this - it the author isn't into it, how does he expect me to be?

A note: i recently read Change - Jim Butcher's latest Dresden Novel. It's an amazing series and it doesn't disappoint, but yes, after the end, i found myself wondering how much longer he'd want to keep going - it seems he's moving towards a place he could easily wrap it up if he wanted to. Hopefully, he does it in style.

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MorganHawke
Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:21:21 PM

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GallagherWitt wrote:
A-freaking-men. It is so, so easy to burn out. ...Solution? ...I've forced myself to take 2-3 weeks off to recharge, and it works like a charm every time. I call it my self-imposed grounding.

Anyway, that's my ongoing experience with the burn-out demons. Great article!


I'm glad you liked it!
-- I take a week-long slacker's break every time I finish a full novel. In my case, I usually sleep all the way around the clock for the first few days.

Morgan Hawke
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MorganHawke
Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:26:33 PM

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sprite wrote:
... Those times i feel i HAVE to write a chapter, it usually shows - it's just not as good as it could be. I'd rather leave something hanging for a long while than submit something that's just ok, rather than amazing.


I do that myself, when I can afford to wait on it. Sadly the bills won't let me wait too long.

sprite wrote:
...i have abandoned well loved series because of this - it the author isn't into it, how does he expect me to be?


It's not the author. It's usually the publisher, or as in my case the Agent who's doing the pushing for more books than the author wants to write.

sprite wrote:
i recently read Change - Jim Butcher's latest Dresden Novel. It's an amazing series and it doesn't disappoint, but yes, after the end, i found myself wondering how much longer he'd want to keep going - it seems he's moving towards a place he could easily wrap it up if he wanted to. Hopefully, he does it in style.


Hopefully he hasn't gotten too dependent on those checks from New York. Giving up those fat royalty checks isn't easy.

Morgan Hawke
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GallagherWitt
Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:14:00 PM

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MorganHawke wrote:
GallagherWitt wrote:
A-freaking-men. It is so, so easy to burn out. ...Solution? ...I've forced myself to take 2-3 weeks off to recharge, and it works like a charm every time. I call it my self-imposed grounding.

Anyway, that's my ongoing experience with the burn-out demons. Great article!


I'm glad you liked it!
-- I take a week-long slacker's break every time I finish a full novel. In my case, I usually sleep all the way around the clock for the first few days.


I've tried to do that, but usually around the time I'm finishing one book, another is waiting in the wings demanding my attention. So I'll usually start editing the finished book in between outlining the new one, submit the finished one, then jump right into the new one. I'm actually between books right now...finished one on Friday, but then Saturday was my husband's birthday, so I had a rather convenient excuse for a day off. Today, I'm flitting between editing that book and outlining my next one.

Considering my next five books are on deadlines, albeit flexible ones, I foresee the need for another (if shorter) self-imposed grounding soon.

And sleeping around the clock for a few days sounds like total bliss. I don't sleep for shit anyway, so...lol

Lori
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TracyAmes
Posted: Sunday, May 08, 2011 7:04:14 AM

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Hell yeah, Morgan! Excellent advice for us seasoned writers and newbies alike. Okay newbies, plug your ears while I talk to Morgan. Good.

Last year I made the mistake of running two stories parallel because I loved the storyline. My poor copy editor freaked and warned I'd hit the wall of overcommitment sooner or later...which I did. Luckily the thud came towards the end and the series landed smoothly. I don't recommend traveling that road!

Unplug them now.

And yes, the larger publishing houses don't encourage change. As long as the same old, cookie cut BS is selling they're not gonna rock the boat. Sadly, this stifles creativity and exacerbates mounting frustrations amongst their writers.

Everyone should staple this post to their storyboard. Great work, Chica!

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MorganHawke
Posted: Sunday, May 08, 2011 8:06:43 AM

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TracyAmes wrote:
Hell yeah, Morgan! Excellent advice for us seasoned writers and newbies alike.


I'm glad you like it!

TracyAmes wrote:
...My poor copy editor freaked and warned I'd hit the wall of overcommitment sooner or later...which I did. ...I don't recommend traveling that road!


I don't either. I made that mistake myself. What made it worse is that I do Not do well with deadlines. I freeze up on them.

TracyAmes wrote:
And yes, the larger publishing houses don't encourage change. As long as the same old, cookie cut BS is selling they're not gonna rock the boat. Sadly, this stifles creativity and exacerbates mounting frustrations amongst their writers.


Yes, yes, and yes, but do they ever learn from their mistakes? NO.


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nicola
Posted: Sunday, May 08, 2011 3:21:51 PM

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Excellent article.

The same could be said for almost any creative profession - artists asked to continue producing work in one particular style, typecast actors etc.

It's not really the fault of the publishing houses, as you say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Do you find the larger publishing houses more restrictive / less flexible than the smaller ones in this regard?

If I were running a small publishers, I'd encourage diversity in the work of authors, and if their books weren't selling, gently nudge the author back towards their original winning formula. That approach might actually encourage a greater fanbase, having different styles, provided the same author's style were stamped into the books.

What I mean is, one "different from expected" book will probably not be enough to put off hardened fans, but may attract new ones in the process. It's a fine balance of course between losing your original fan base, and broadening your horizons.
MorganHawke
Posted: Sunday, May 08, 2011 4:55:17 PM

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nicola wrote:
The same could be said for almost any creative profession - artists asked to continue producing work in one particular style, typecast actors etc.


This is also true of Webmasters. Building a website is very creative. Maintaining and updating websites however, is quite boring.

nicola wrote:
...What I mean is, one "different from expected" book will probably not be enough to put off hardened fans, but may attract new ones in the process. It's a fine balance of course between losing your original fan base, and broadening your horizons.


LOL! And then there's me with EVERY book I write being quite a bit different from the next. However, it hasn't lost me any fans.


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GallagherWitt
Posted: Monday, May 09, 2011 6:58:23 AM

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MorganHawke wrote:

LOL! And then there's me with EVERY book I write being quite a bit different from the next. However, it hasn't lost me any fans.


Same here, on both counts. There are similarities from book to book, but I can't get into the whole "change the names and a few adjectives" routine. So far, no one's asked me to, so here's hoping it stays this way. :D

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MorganHawke
Posted: Monday, May 09, 2011 7:48:20 AM

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GallagherWitt wrote:
There are similarities from book to book, but I can't get into the whole "change the names and a few adjectives" routine. So far, no one's asked me to, so here's hoping it stays this way. :D


Wait til you get: "Just write anything, it doesn't matter what, as long as you give them something."

I got that from my Agent. (The one I don't have anymore.) She was more than a little obvious about being interested in "as much as possible, as fast as possible" than a decent story.

Unfortunately, (for her,) I have fans that WILL give me shit of the story isn't the best I can produce. Happily those same fans have no problem waiting for something "good".

Morgan Hawke
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GallagherWitt
Posted: Monday, May 09, 2011 6:46:24 PM

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MorganHawke wrote:
GallagherWitt wrote:
There are similarities from book to book, but I can't get into the whole "change the names and a few adjectives" routine. So far, no one's asked me to, so here's hoping it stays this way. :D


Wait til you get: "Just write anything, it doesn't matter what, as long as you give them something."

I got that from my Agent. (The one I don't have anymore.) She was more than a little obvious about being interested in "as much as possible, as fast as possible" than a decent story.

Unfortunately, (for her,) I have fans that WILL give me shit of the story isn't the best I can produce. Happily those same fans have no problem waiting for something "good".


Oh yeah, that wouldn't fly. My readers have no qualms about raking me over the coals if I don't give them something worth reading. That, and why would we want to put our names on something half-assed? I can certainly see why you wouldn't have that agent anymore...

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MorganHawke
Posted: Monday, May 09, 2011 7:56:18 PM

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GallagherWitt wrote:
...why would we want to put our names on something half-assed?


EXACTLY.

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Wow I never realized writers had this problem. This thread has been A real eye opener. Thank you to those who have participated.
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