I don't know about female sexual power.
However I have been with a guy who is circumised and a guy that is natural. I didn't notice the difference.
I do know that my dad and uncles are circumsied because my grandmother heard from her father how many guys who were all natural had infections during the WWII because of lack of hygene resources.
So there is my inside thinking of it and some info.
I have never been with a guy who was not circumcised. Not that I wouldn't, it just hasn't happened. Personally I like how a cock locks better when it is cut, but if I was attracted to the guy, it wouldn't matter.
As for female sexual power, I really don't understand the question. Please explain!
There appears to be a limit before posting links, I have put what I wanted every on to see in the first post.
Every fucking time I see this posted on a forum I'm a part of, it turns into an instant flamewar. Put it into the Think Tank. (In case anyone wants links to the 4 other forums I've been on that this exact same shit has been posted - PM me)
Oh... And my opinion on it is? Get the fuck over it. If you don't like it, change it. But don't bring me this pseudo-psychobabble to create tension in our forums by laying blame on an entire gender. That being us gals. And you deliberately posted it in "Ask the Gals"...
Cause yes... When my son was born the first thing I thought of was destroying him. Are you serious? No, really? Really? Give me a break!
**Sidenote** Yes, I'm cranky. And no, I'm not PMSing.
*shrug. I don't have much of an opinion. When I was with my exes who were all uncut I didn't care. With my husband who is cut - instill don't care.
I don't think about it at all, ever.
My husband made the choice to circ the boys because hes cut. My ex husband couldn't keep himself clean to save his soul but opted to not have it done to his offspring.
I think the deal is that if its different than what they have then they will be uncomfortable with it. Lack of knowledge I suppose.
It use to be religious and at what point it shifted away from that, I'm not sure.
What I am tired of are men and women alike talking shit about the the cut vs uncut as if there's something wrong with the man because of whatever his parents chose to do when he was a few hours old.
I also found it annoying that an ex boyfriend of mind couldn't come right out and say it when he tried to tell me. Instead, he gave it countless nicknames and slang terms. I had no clue what the fuck he was talking about. *sigh. I think that's evidence that guys make a huge deal out of it when a lot of women don't think about it at all.
Alright... Here's my thoughts on a few choice tidbits.
"This is not an attack on anyone"
Really? Not an attack?
This woman is delusional. The entire rant is an attack. A passive-aggressive attack, but still one, nonetheless.
"Therefore, men only get real sexual satisfaction from vaginal penetration"
Did you know a lot of women don't have an orgasm from vaginal sex? How does this make it better for us? Oh right... We have vibrators now.
Is she making this shit up off the cuff? Cause I'd like the stuff she's smoking.
"You can give yourself a massively intense, rapid, easy orgasm whenever you want - no man needed"
Yeah... cause women have had it so easy to have an orgasm. Vibes suck. In my opinion. It's a waste of money. I'd much rather have the real thing.
John Harvey Kellogg? Sounds like a dude's name to me. Let me guess... His mom stunted his sexual growth by circumcising him and turned him into a sadistic sonuvabitch.
"Last night I was in a bar and some sexist bozo fondled my ass. Was I angry? - no, I smiled sweetly to myself and remembered that the female sex got its revenge in on this guy the day he was born."
Who the fuck thinks like that? Really? I suppose if you were so appalled and angry at this random dude that groped your ass, then I guess you might think like this. I prefer slapping his face. I'll match his assault charge for me with a sexual misconduct/assault charge for him. *makes note to enroll in anger management classes if I ever feel like this*
"Totally and utterly emasculated - condemned to a lifetime of insensitivity and difficult masturbation - by a woman."
Yes. Cause the majority of women want to condemn men to an unsatisfactory masturbatory session. WTF?!?
Do you have any idea how fucking cranky the average guy gets if he doesn't rub one out? Falling Down. Watch that movie. It's a fairly close reenactment.
How about the guys that are premature ejaculators? And they're circumcised. I can count on both hands and feet the dudes I've been with that had this particular problem. A light breeze and they'd go off like a rocket.
This exact same topic (word for word) has cropped up on many parenting forums. If you ever want to start a drag 'em out fistfight with a bunch uptight, holier-than-thou parents... Just whisper anything about circumcision and this stupid fucking article comes out of the woodwork in a flash. It seems to be the posterchild for the anti-circ crowd. It doesn't make it right, it just means people are grasping at hairbrained ideas to back up their 'logic' so they can shove it down the throats of the 'non-believers'.
I don't suffer fools that do shit like this.
My advice: Get an original idea and back it up with facts. Change my mind... Don't try to baffle me with bullshit like this. The woman that wrote it should get her conspiracy theories checked and then get heavily medicated.
"We all have female friends who told us when we were pregnant how we 'MUST' have our baby boy circumcised - why? - this was the only time in their lives they would have total, ultimate power over a man's penis."
Cause that load of shit ^^ right there ^^ is not normal.
Never heard of this article before but it seems like some not-so-clever person basically took the arguments about female genital mutilation (under the misnomer guise of 'circumcision') in certain third world countries and extreme cultures and tried to apply it to basic male circumcision. ie. "it's a method of control and subjugation", "it dulls sexual pleasure", "prevents satisfying masturbation", "ruins intimacy" blah blah blah...
It's an admirable attempt at anti-circumcision propaganda, but unfortunately for the 'writer', these things are not one and the same. You can't compare apples to oranges. When someone comes up with some procedural trend to lop off the head of a guy's dick and call it circumcision, then come talk to me about controlling a man and emasculating him and wrecking his life. Otherwise, the argument is weak and basically laughable.
Cut guys are happily wanking the world over without any issues, and as TDW said, the trigger-happy minute men that I've been with have all been of the circumcised variety as well.
Since this isn't a parenting forum I thought that things might not get out of hand here...
There is one way that I suspect many men are manipulated on this subject though, that was brought up in the larger discussion of the original posting. I f a man has been crcumcised and spends most of his life hearing from women how much they prefer circumcised men or hears from his partners how happy they are that he has been circumcised than he is going to be far more likely to want to have his son circumcised regardless of what his partner at the time may think. I am aware that "intactivists" tend to rejoice at every time they prevent someone from being circumcised, in the same way some of the supporters of circumcision may feel better every time someone js circumcised. How many of the men here, particularly if they have read some of the other threads on this subject, would have their sons circumcised? What if it was reversed and all the women preferred natural men?
This is separate from what the women who wrote the article was saying but I suspect that it has far greater merit. Hopefully we will be able to keep this civil. I do NOT want this to be about whether curcumcision is a good or bad thing, I only want to discuss the different motivations behind it.
Since this isn't a parenting forum I thought that things might not get out of hand here...
There is one way that I suspect many men are manipulated on this subject though, that was brought up in the larger discussion of the original posting. I f a man has been crcumcised and spends most of his life hearing from women how much they prefer circumcised men or hears from his partners how happy they are that he has been circumcised than he is going to be far more likely to want to have his son circumcised regardless of what his partner at the time may think. I am aware that "intactivists" tend to rejoice at every time they prevent someone from being circumcised, in the same way some of the supporters of circumcision may feel better every time someone js circumcised. How many of the men here, particularly if they have read some of the other threads on this subject, would have their sons circumcised? What if it was reversed and all the women preferred natural men?
This is separate from what the women who wrote the article was saying but I suspect that it has far greater merit. Hopefully we will be able to keep this civil. I do NOT want this to be about whether curcumcision is a good or bad thing, I only want to discuss the different motivations behind it.
Dude...what the hell are you trying to pull?! Like seriously...what the hell?? That crock article you posted has already been dissected. Circumcision isn't some plot for women to emasculate men and take over the world. There is no motive behind circumcision. Doctors recommend it for health purposes. There's really no actual NEED for the foreskin to stay there. Move on.
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Jack is right.
Can you imagine if dads circumcised girls at the alarming rate that women lop off the tip of boy's weenises?
That would be a no go.
But oooooooooooh its just fine to do it to boys.
Double standard?
I think so!
i think circumcision is bad. honestly, castration is the way to go - if you're going to do something, do it right, goddammit!
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Two simple answers to this.
1. As DD said, cuts guys all over the world masturbating happily.
2. Uncut guys would still rather have vaginal sex any day over masturbation so on your logic women also have some mystical power over uncut guys too.
Whole argument therefore flawed. End of
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