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Have you ever been turned down so many times by your wife that you just give up

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and go somewhere else?
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Is the pope Catholic? Does a bear shit in the woods? Got rejected so many times, I quit trying.
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yeah..... we are now divorced.........
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Yes...she is in perimenapause and I now no longer hardly ever initiate...it hurts to much to get turned down.
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Yes...she would tell her friends we were going to do it, then when we were in bed, something would interfere (feeling ill, movie on TV, playing with the cat or dog).
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Yea, It's been six yrs now.
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Have any of you tried romancing her again? Make her feel special, not like a horse that is to be ridden. Write her little notes and put them in places she will find them or send her a text telling her you love her. Bring her home some flowers or just one flower. Make her FEEL special and let her know that YOU think she is special. Come home from work one day and tell her to drop everything, that you're taking her out, and then take her out. even if it's for fish and chips on the beach, it's still something you thought of for HER.

If you haven't tried that, do so and I promise you that you will see a difference. It's not just hormones that affect us. If you haven't figured out by now that women and men think differently when it comes to sex, then you need to take another look. She is not just there for you when you need her to 'put out'. How can you expect anything in return if you are taking her for granted?

Obviously this is not the case for all of you, but it might be time to review how you treat her and what you could do to make her feel special. If she feels that you think she IS special, you're going to have a better connection with her. Good luck.
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Have any of you tried romancing her again? Make her feel special, not like a horse that is to be ridden. Write her little notes and put them in places she will find them or send her a text telling her you love her. Bring her home some flowers or just one flower. Make her FEEL special and let her know that YOU think she is special. Come home from work one day and tell her to drop everything, that you're taking her out, and then take her out. even if it's for fish and chips on the beach, it's still something you thought of for HER.

If you haven't tried that, do so and I promise you that you will see a difference. It's not just hormones that affect us. If you haven't figured out by now that women and men think differently when it comes to sex, then you need to take another look. She is not just there for you when you need her to 'put out'. How can you expect anything in return if you are taking her for granted?

Obviously this is not the case for all of you, but it might be time to review how you treat her and what you could do to make her feel special. If she feels that you think she IS special, you're going to have a better connection with her. Good luck.


Tinket - Excellent advice. However, I'm afraid you cannot promise a difference. I do understand and echo your sentiments that women are not to be taken for granted. In fact, I would go further, that neither party in a relationship should be taken for granted on any level; physical, or emotional. It has been my personal experience that many things can interfere with making her feel special. Some of which can be dealt with in the ways you advise. Some cannot.

I've found that depression - the diagnosis, treatment, and ongoing care - required has placed an obstacle in our relationship that no amount of romance could remove. Instead, we have patiently (at times) tried to stay committed and work through the challenges. It isn't easy. It has led to times that I've become too discouraged to even approach her. It has led to very long periods of difficulty for both of us. We continue to battle on.
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Tinket - Excellent advice. However, I'm afraid you cannot promise a difference. I do understand and echo your sentiments that women are not to be taken for granted. In fact, I would go further, that neither party in a relationship should be taken for granted on any level; physical, or emotional. It has been my personal experience that many things can interfere with making her feel special. Some of which can be dealt with in the ways you advise. Some cannot.

I've found that depression - the diagnosis, treatment, and ongoing care - required has placed an obstacle in our relationship that no amount of romance could remove. Instead, we have patiently (at times) tried to stay committed and work through the challenges. It isn't easy. It has led to times that I've become too discouraged to even approach her. It has led to very long periods of difficulty for both of us. We continue to battle on.


Of course you're right. If there is a medical problem of any kind that is contributing to the problem it's not as simple as taking her for fish & chips on the beach on a warm summer night. I hope you both find an answer.
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This is sad. If the horse won't take a saddle then time for a new horse.


She isn't an animal dear. This is why she can say no and a horse can't!!
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Have any of you tried romancing her again? Make her feel special, not like a horse that is to be ridden. Write her little notes and put them in places she will find them or send her a text telling her you love her. Bring her home some flowers or just one flower. Make her FEEL special and let her know that YOU think she is special. Come home from work one day and tell her to drop everything, that you're taking her out, and then take her out. even if it's for fish and chips on the beach, it's still something you thought of for HER.

If you haven't tried that, do so and I promise you that you will see a difference. It's not just hormones that affect us. If you haven't figured out by now that women and men think differently when it comes to sex, then you need to take another look. She is not just there for you when you need her to 'put out'. How can you expect anything in return if you are taking her for granted?

Obviously this is not the case for all of you, but it might be time to review how you treat her and what you could do to make her feel special. If she feels that you think she IS special, you're going to have a better connection with her. Good luck.


I absolutely agree with you.
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Buddy and I just had a conversation about this Friday. Both of us put up with it for far too long despite effort, counseling, etc. Both of us got divorced...
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Make her feel special, not like a horse that is to be ridden.


I'm sure it was a very nice saddle trinket. There is just no pleasing some fillies.
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After a suicide attempt in 1995, one of her consolers convinced her that sex was degrading and had no place in a loving relationship
I haven't gone elsewhere, but I can count on one hand the number of times it's happened since then
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I turned down my ex all the time, for damn good reasons.

1. He ignored me all day and then expected me to perform on demand like a porn slut.
2. He was an alcoholic who practically me every time he got drunk.
3. He was selfish and sucked in bed. It was all about him and what he wanted.
4. He wouldn't communicate or listen when I tried to tell him what I liked.
5. He cheated on me and refused to wear condoms.
6. He didn't love me. He didn't want a real relationship, he wanted a whore to cook and clean for him.

No more sex for him.

When you ignore a woman, and continually don't meet her emotional needs, she isn't going to want to have sex with you. Don't ignore her.
When you treat a woman like crap, abuse, belittle or insult her, she isn't going to want to have sex with you. Respect her.
When all you care about is getting your rocks off as soon as possible, she isn't going to want to have sex with you. Put her needs first.
When you don't listen when she tells you what she needs or wants in bed, she isn't going to want to have sex with you. Give her what she fantasizes most about.
When you cheat, break her heart, and possibly bring home an STD to share, she isn't going to want to have sex with you. Don't betray her trust.
When you treat her like she's your mother and not your lover, she's not going to want to have sex with you.

Make her feel desired, and wanted. Don't take advantage of her or expect her to always be there for you if you aren't there for her. A woman always knows when a man really loves her and when he doesn't. When you let the relationship die, she is not going to want to have sex with you. Communicate with her. Make sure she KNOWS you love her. Dont' just say it, show it.

Women need their emotional needs met first, before they will have sex. They need their emotional needs met with the same intensity that men crave their sexual needs being met. If a woman ever denies you sex, it's because she is either not feeling well (she's sick) or she doesn't feel connected to you emotionally. There is ALWAYS a reason behind why she doesn't want to have sex with you. ASK HER WHY, and fix it. Talk to her. Cheating isn't going to fix your relationship. She will find out, and when she does, she will never want to have sex with you ever again.

I never turn down my new man. He treats me right and makes me feel desired. Actually I wish we had sex more often.
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After a suicide attempt in 1995, one of her consolers convinced her that sex was degrading and had no place in a loving relationship
I haven't gone elsewhere, but I can count on one hand the number of times it's happened since then


That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. It sounds as if that counselor has some serious mental issues of her own. Sex is one of the most important things in a loving relationship. It's like the glue that bonds the couple together. It's what makes a romantic relationship deeper and more intense than all other types of relationships.
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yes I have. she is not interested in sex at all so I now go shopping elsewhere
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I have been turned own so many times that I have given up trying !!
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I never turn down my new man. He treats me right and makes me feel desired. Actually I wish we had sex more often.


Reading that made my heart ache. I'm so glad that you were able to make it out of there and find a partner that truly cherishes you with all of his heart.


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Reading that made my heart ache. I'm so glad that you were able to make it out of there and find a partner that truly cherishes you with all of his heart.


I was single for 12 years before I found him, although technically he found me. The one good thing about being in a bad relationship is that you learn exactly what you don't want in a partner. Being single, and a little lonely, is far better than staying a bad relationship just because you don't want to be alone. I am very lucky to have found a good man.
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Being single, and a little lonely, is far better than staying a bad relationship just because you don't want to be alone.

See below.
I posted this and then realìsed I hadn't written what I was thinking.
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Being single, and a little lonely, is far better than staying a bad relationship just because you don't want to be alone.

Everybody should take note of this.
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With wife #2, the Good Catholic Girl, it had to be precisely 10:00 am. 09:55 I'm not awake yet. 10:05 Too late you had your chance.
Then I found out that she had all the time in the world for her lesbian mates at work and even less time for me.
Now that would have been intriguing at the Confessional, before Reconciliation and Communion.
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Have any of you tried romancing her again? Make her feel special, not like a horse that is to be ridden. Write her little notes and put them in places she will find them or send her a text telling her you love her. Bring her home some flowers or just one flower. Make her FEEL special and let her know that YOU think she is special. Come home from work one day and tell her to drop everything, that you're taking her out, and then take her out. even if it's for fish and chips on the beach, it's still something you thought of for HER.

If you haven't tried that, do so and I promise you that you will see a difference. It's not just hormones that affect us. If you haven't figured out by now that women and men think differently when it comes to sex, then you need to take another look. She is not just there for you when you need her to 'put out'. How can you expect anything in return if you are taking her for granted?

Obviously this is not the case for all of you, but it might be time to review how you treat her and what you could do to make her feel special. If she feels that you think she IS special, you're going to have a better connection with her. Good luck.


I agree with Trinket here.
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I turned down my ex all the time, for damn good reasons.

1. He ignored me all day and then expected me to perform on demand like a porn slut.
2. He was an alcoholic who practically me every time he got drunk.
3. He was selfish and sucked in bed. It was all about him and what he wanted.
4. He wouldn't communicate or listen when I tried to tell him what I liked.
5. He cheated on me and refused to wear condoms.
6. He didn't love me. He didn't want a real relationship, he wanted a whore to cook and clean for him.

No more sex for him.

When you ignore a woman, and continually don't meet her emotional needs, she isn't going to want to have sex with you. Don't ignore her.
When you treat a woman like crap, abuse, belittle or insult her, she isn't going to want to have sex with you. Respect her.
When all you care about is getting your rocks off as soon as possible, she isn't going to want to have sex with you. Put her needs first.
When you don't listen when she tells you what she needs or wants in bed, she isn't going to want to have sex with you. Give her what she fantasizes most about.
When you cheat, break her heart, and possibly bring home an STD to share, she isn't going to want to have sex with you. Don't betray her trust.
When you treat her like she's your mother and not your lover, she's not going to want to have sex with you.

Make her feel desired, and wanted. Don't take advantage of her or expect her to always be there for you if you aren't there for her. A woman always knows when a man really loves her and when he doesn't. When you let the relationship die, she is not going to want to have sex with you. Communicate with her. Make sure she KNOWS you love her. Dont' just say it, show it.

Women need their emotional needs met first, before they will have sex. They need their emotional needs met with the same intensity that men crave their sexual needs being met. If a woman ever denies you sex, it's because she is either not feeling well (she's sick) or she doesn't feel connected to you emotionally. There is ALWAYS a reason behind why she doesn't want to have sex with you. ASK HER WHY, and fix it. Talk to her. Cheating isn't going to fix your relationship. She will find out, and when she does, she will never want to have sex with you ever again.

I never turn down my new man. He treats me right and makes me feel desired. Actually I wish we had sex more often.



Thank you Audri, you said it so much better than I did. Of course this doesn't apply to every guy though. I think it's pretty common.

EDIT: It realise it can work both ways too.
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Well I think you have to accept as you are two individual people you will have different levels of desire. I get rejected a lot but continue to ask. I also try to still give her little surprises without expecting anything in return the odd times it does happen are great.
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Stopped initiating years ago....when it was part of our lives, it was once a month when hormones got control and she would come to bed with perfume on and snuggle up and ask for a back massage...that was my literal "wake up call." For that to happen, the kids needed to be sound asleep, the day to have gone without friction, her lists of things to do satisfactorily enough diminished that she could afford the energy or lost sleep, and the planets and stars to be somehow mysteriously aligned, with no outward rhyme or reason apparent to me. Never really seemed to be any real interest in fun, play, teasing - just turn her head to the wall, and hope I can satisfy both our biological needs with as little personal interaction as she could dispense. There is a spirituality factor that I don't "get" and which my interest in making it fun, getting a laugh, introducing a fantasy story/setting, where anticipation, innuendo or word play beforehand or talking during are "turn offs" in her thin, unmarked book. It is like sex is a spiritual duty, and since I can't reach her plain or maintain it, she would rather not, period.

Nearly three years ago since the last time; that once in about 5 years' time; no kisses at all in that time period - both of us in deep, worn ruts that we apparently can't see out of. $10k-$12k of therapy and counseling for her, and no insights or post-counseling sharing of a shred with me on how to cope on whatever she has learned or come to understand, other than that I am now labeled a chauvinist.

Have I cheated, gone elsewhere, except into my own mind? No, but then again, even a fantasy is to her 'cheating.' She is to all appearances and experience preferring asexuality.