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This Friday will be my 24th birthday, and I have yet to be involved in any kind of real relationship with a woman. I've never had a girlfriend, and I've never had sex. My sexual experience is limited to going down on a girl who was trying to force herself not to be a lesbian for religious reasons. That was a year and a half ago. I've not had so much as a date since. I can't meet people, I just can't walk up to someone and start a conversation, it's not me. None of my friends have single friends, or if they do they're hiding them from me. And the online dating scene in Toronto is a all guys and fake accounts.

I'm at the end of my rope here. Should I keep dangling here on it, or just let go and sink into the abyss.
Her Royal Spriteness
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Get involved with some sort of co-ed group, club, sport, etc, something that you are truly into so you can have a shared interest with any women in the club, etc - after that, don't force it - get to know the girls, became friends, and see where that leads. shared interests are pretty much the key here - something you can talk to about someone else, something that you're both passionate about. plus, it's just good practice, being social and getting to know people.

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

Cheeky Chick
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Giving up isn't the answer. I know how hard it is to meet people. I have the same issue, to be honest. I never really understood the whole going up to someone and going from there. To me, that is really weird and kind of scary. But, that is due to me having social anxiety.

Anyway, joining something, that you're into, some form of class or something might help. Maybe look outside of your local area, maybe the surrounding areas might help. If you're able to travel. So the whole online thing could become possible.

I hope that helps.
Lady GlitterGiggles
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I suggest you find some confidence....quickly. And stop thinking so much. If you think no one wants to fuck you, they won't. Change your perception.
Active Ink Slinger
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All of the ladies above have some excellent advise and truthfully feel you should listen to them all. Getting involved forces you to interact with lots of people on common interests. I do have to agree that you find your confidence though. Take a risk when you do find a girl with common interests and you are interested in. Bite the bullet and step outside of your comfort zone no ask her out on a date. It's not easy... You are gonna feel vulnerable. If she says no, don't shut down. Her loss. Use the experience, learn from it and move forward. Good luck!!

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I think you should be comfortable in your own skin, before trying to approach anyone.
Once you are, then start off easy with women.
Go slow.
Good luck.
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Why would you give up, you didn't even begin.
Sex is 'just' a crown of interaction between people. I believe in your case, if you are searching to find a woman with whom you will have sex, you will get quite few slammed doors in your face. You aren't that type. Your interest when meeting new people shouldn't be because you need to get laid or because it is time or you are getting frustrated. Your intentions should be different in that specter. Maybe it sounds weird, but people can feel this things, we can feel desperation and no one is attracted to that. I am quite sure there is someone in Toronto that is just right for you, you just need to figure it out how to recognize them.
Btw, all of us have different but same difficulties how to find and recognize partner that suits us, it is not just you, Sure, some of us have sex, but believe me it is not all about this wonderful thing.
Head up, you will figure it out how to find your mate.



And one more thing, being relaxed and satisfied the way you are on your own, isn't giving up. It is difference, one is with the other is without desperation.
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i hear a lot of me in what you're saying, and the truth is "you need confidence" is both completely true and completely frustrating. it's true because a lack of confidence in yourself is a turn off to others, but it's frustrating because of course you can't just simply say "oh i'll have some confidence" and you magically have it.

it seems to me you get confidence by degrees. start by not defining yourself by your insecurities. you're a virgin at 24? fine. i was a virgin at 29. you're not the first or the last, so don't beat yourself up over it.

next, develop a positive outlook. yes, online dating can be a pain in the ass, but you know what? you're in the MOST POPULOUS CITY IN CANADA. it's not like you live in a town of 200 people. there are opportunities there, i guarantee it.

finally, talk to people here. being able to talk to women here doesn't automatically mean you can do it in real life, but believe it or not it does help.

you can do it. giving up at 24 is absurd. i know it feels hopeless sometimes but it isn't.
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First suggestion, SHED the "I'm a loser" attitude that runs off women faster than skunk in the living room! There HAS to be Something you're good at. Whatever IT might be, thee are probably women in your area who are "into" IT. So, try becoming involved in groups that deal with IT (nothing builds confidence faster than being COMPETENT. ;) )
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Quote by mrd82
i hear a lot of me in what you're saying, and the truth is "you need confidence" is both completely true and completely frustrating. it's true because a lack of confidence in yourself is a turn off to others, but it's frustrating because of course you can't just simply say "oh i'll have some confidence" and you magically have it.

it seems to me you get confidence by degrees. start by not defining yourself by your insecurities. you're a virgin at 24? fine. i was a virgin at 29. you're not the first or the last, so don't beat yourself up over it.

next, develop a positive outlook. yes, online dating can be a pain in the ass, but you know what? you're in the MOST POPULOUS CITY IN CANADA. it's not like you live in a town of 200 people. there are opportunities there, i guarantee it.

finally, talk to people here. being able to talk to women here doesn't automatically mean you can do it in real life, but believe it or not it does help.

you can do it. giving up at 24 is absurd. i know it feels hopeless sometimes but it isn't.


mrd, I have such respect for you and I think you've given him excellent advice!!! Lots of great advice from everyone here, take some of it and put it to good use. Good luck.
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mrd, I have such respect for you and I think you've given him excellent advice!!!


*blushing*

thanks so much. biggrin
Advanced Wordsmith
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Canuck....from one Torontonian to another, here's what I would do:

- Download Tinder. Regardless of how it's perceived you will be able to go through files of singles and hopefully find a few matches. From there it's up to you.

- Possibly go on POF or another dating site that potentially matches your personality ie...if you are Christian, try Christian Mingle.

- If you are into sports you can try joining a mixed recreational league. If you are into certain hobbies you can join a mixed group and meet new people. Perhaps one of the girls will be single or set you up with a single friend of theirs.

- Do some workouts at home. No need for a gym. If you're watching TV or surfing the web do 10-20 pushups or sit-ups during commercial or whatever break you are taking. Do that a few times a night and try to push yourself to do 50 pushups and 50 sit-ups a night. Then when you are used to it, push it to 100 each. Women like guys who are in-shape. They check them out.

Hope some of these ideas helps. Good luck.
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Never, ever give up!

Like some others have said, it doesn't matter what age you are, if you're a virgin, if you've had a girlfriend or not. Own it. It's who you are. That should never be something to use to see yourself negatively.
If it helps, I'm 22 and I've only had one boyfriend. I don't see that as anything bad, it's just the way it's gone for me so far.

Having the confidence to walk up to someone begins with your own self perception but it also take practice to a certain degree. Start small, being somewhere like Lush will make it easy as most are very open here. Even if you're out and about in the city and just make a passing comment to a girl, regardless of whether you think she's pretty, it'll be a positive experience.

Like some others have said, join a local sport/activity group! It'll really help you to interact with people on a platonic level and it's a great way to meet people you have something in common with! Sometimes attraction and dating possibilities crop up when you're not pursuing them like crazy.

Oh, and I'm not knocking Tinder one bit!

Keep your chin up love.