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Issues with blocking a member.

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Greetings.


I hope this was taken up before as well, but I believe was not corrected at that time because of developer time constraints, if I remember correctly.

However I guess the issue needs to be taken up again and needs a reconsideration from the respected admins.

My concern here is that when a member is blocked on lush, he/she should not be able to view any of the content of the one who blocked them. I would feel better that the both of them be invisible to each other, especially in the forums, where both can see each other, though not the content of the post. Which can well be viewed by "quoting" the respective post.

Hope that it is resolved this time.

Thank you.

Regards.
Zaman, A.
Scarlet Seductress
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Why? If you can't read their posts, what difference does it make?
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Why? If you can't read their posts, what difference does it make?



That does make sense, but it sure is visible to the world and peeps who we care about. I feel it would best be cured for once.
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That does make sense, but it sure is visible to the world and peeps who we care about. I feel it would best be cured for once.


I don't think that is the intent of the blocking feature. If it worked the way you are requesting, by blocking someone on Lush you would affect their site experience also by placing a limitation what they can see. Just because you don't want to see their posts doesn't mean that they don't want to see yours.
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Never heard of a block feature that stops the blocked person from seeing the blocker's posts. I admin a board that runs on Xenforo, which is as bog-standard as board software comes, and its Ignore feature blocks the user from seeing the target but not the reverse (which would, among other things, let the target know they were being ignored and I don't always want someone that I'm ignoring to know that I am). IIRC, vBulletin, once the 500 lb gorilla of commercial board software and maybe it still is, is similar.

I suspect part of the problem here is semantics. "Block" implies something stronger than "Ignore" (putting up a barrier vs. just turning away) and, yet, Lush's "Block" is basically the same as Xenforo's "Ignore". Maybe a rename rather than a change in functionality so we're clear on what is happening?
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For every person that's blocked, there's someone who uses some backdoor or rogue account to find out what's going on. Use the block feature to filter the noise of whatever they have to say from your life and forget about them.

As a general practice, I assume everyone will read what I post so I don't say anything on the forums that I don't want the world to know.

If you're being stalked, or someone is making libelous claims about you (both legal terms) that's another matter entirely. Otherwise, what are you worried about the blocked person learning or doing with what you post?
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Never heard of a block feature that stops the blocked person from seeing the blocker's posts. I admin a board that runs on Xenforo, which is as bog-standard as board software comes, and its Ignore feature blocks the user from seeing the target but not the reverse (which would, among other things, let the target know they were being ignored and I don't always want someone that I'm ignoring to know that I am). IIRC, vBulletin, once the 500 lb gorilla of commercial board software and maybe it still is, is similar.

I suspect part of the problem here is semantics. "Block" implies something stronger than "Ignore" (putting up a barrier vs. just turning away) and, yet, Lush's "Block" is basically the same as Xenforo's "Ignore". Maybe a rename rather than a change in functionality so we're clear on what is happening?





I quite agree with you about it being more of an ignore feature. It doesn't block the person from anything, but just makes them feel ignored. But I don't think it would make much of a difference to a chronic stalker.
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If I block someone, it's because I don't want to read their posts. Yet of someone quote's them in a reply, I can still see it. I was told this was going to be referred to someone who could investigate and perhaps come up with an improvement.

We'll see how it goes.
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I was told this was going to be referred to someone who could investigate and perhaps come up with an improvement.

We'll see how it goes.


no one liked my suggestion of 'if you poke your eyes out, you won't be able to see it'.

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For every person that's blocked, there's someone who uses some backdoor or rogue account to find out what's going on. Use the block feature to filter the noise of whatever they have to say from your life and forget about them.

As a general practice, I assume everyone will read what I post so I don't say anything on the forums that I don't want the world to know.

If you're being stalked, or someone is making libelous claims about you (both legal terms) that's another matter entirely. Otherwise, what are you worried about the blocked person learning or doing with what you post?




It's not me who I am worried about honestly. I have nothing to hide from anyone. But a lot of fellow lushers I believe have felt this at one time(at least) in their lush lives.

And yeah, a rogue account, or even guest access can be used but then does that mean the block feature doesn't serve its purose?
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If I block someone, it's because I don't want to read their posts. Yet of someone quote's them in a reply, I can still see it. I was told this was going to be referred to someone who could investigate and perhaps come up with an improvement.

We'll see how it goes.



The "quote" feature does it both ways. First is as you say, the second being I don't want them to read mine.
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Never heard of a block feature that stops the blocked person from seeing the blocker's posts.

Blocking on Liveleak works exactly that way.
You can't see them and they can't see you, no matter which party instigates the block.
It makes more sense than the Lush way, which is the equivalent of retreating into a safe space.
If I want a person out of my life, I don't want them still able to see - and be able to comment to everyone except me - about what I might have to say.
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It's not me who I am worried about honestly. I have nothing to hide from anyone. But a lot of fellow lushers I believe have felt this at one time(at least) in their lush lives.

And yeah,... can be used but then does that mean the block feature doesn't serve its purose?


I didn't want to spell out the workaround but yes. IMO it serves its purpose. Think of it as an asshole filter!
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Blocking on Liveleak works exactly that way.
You can't see them and they can't see you, no matter which party instigates the block.
It makes more sense than the Lush way, which is the equivalent of retreating into a safe space.
If I want a person out of my life, I don't want them still able to see - and be able to comment to everyone except me - about what I might have to say.


Do you honestly think you're that important? Look around you, this isn't the Pentagon.
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no one liked my suggestion of 'if you poke your eyes out, you won't be able to see it'.


Imagine that.
The people of The United States want socialism. The people of Venezuela want toilet paper.
A recent article in "The Miami Herald" reveals that the food shortages caused by the economic collapse in Venezuela have had at least one positive side effect. Whereas before Venezuelans were having problems being overrun by herds of wild burros (donkeys), they've solved the problem by eating them. Now they have no burros or toilet paper.
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Do you honestly think you're that important? Look around you, this isn't the Pentagon.


Where in my post did I indicate any sense of self-importance? Try reading it again. Better yet, try reading it for the first time.
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If I want a person out of my life, I don't want them still able to see - and be able to comment to everyone except me - about what I might have to say.


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Where in my post did I indicate any sense of self-importance? Try reading it again. Better yet, try reading it for the first time.


So if you realize you're NOT important why do you think the people you block would be trying to read your posts or run around talking about you? Try comprehending the implications of the statements you make.
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I actually like this way of blocking.

I have no idea if anyone has blocked me and I don't miss any part of a conversation if you did. On Twitter, it takes me right out of a conversation sometimes.

If someone is abusive, report them. Otherwise, who cares who sees what you write? You're in a public forum. A hundred people you don't know are also reading your posts.
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So if you realize you're NOT important why do you think the people you block would be trying to read your posts or run around talking about you? Try comprehending the implications of the statements you make.

Thank you. You have presented a perfect example to back up my argument.
I identify someone that I would like to block, but all blocking would achieve is to give him free rein to make further fatuous comments about my posts without fear of being refuted.
I should be able to exclude an asshole who decides to make snide remarks for no apparent reason from further opportunities. I'm sure you agree.
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Obviously you've never been harassed or trolled by anyone. There are plenty of reasons for wanting to be invisible to some people. Count yourself lucky.


I have been harassed and trolled. And there isn't much you can do to prevent it as I pointed out earlier. If someone is determined to troll you they'll go around being blocked or even create their own propaganda. You're not dealing with rational behavior.

In the end, it's simply best to ignore them which is exactly the point of the block feature. If they act illegally, they need to be reported. The majority of people are adults and act accordingly. If they don't fall into that category there's simply no point in attempting to reason with them. Their conduct speaks for itself.
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Obviously you've never been harassed or trolled by anyone. There are plenty of reasons for wanting to be invisible to some people. Count yourself lucky.


If someone really wants to stalk, harass, etc. you, even a Block that is two-way won't stop them. Sock puppets will appear. Better to chat with a mod and see if you can get it snuffed out early. And even that isn't 100%. An IP (network address) block only works until they login from a different network. There's a persistent troll who's supposed to be permabanned on the site where I admin (due to harassing and stalking members IRL over their opposition to his views) and he still pops up from time to time under new accounts even though we've banned every network address he's known to have used.