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Guest
Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:07:14 PM

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He contradicts himself. He sounds like he's believing it by suggesting what should happen. What an idiot.
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Posted: Saturday, February 27, 2010 10:17:07 AM

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I have found on another "well known" site, anonymous comments were allowed for many years. And those often tended to be the worst type, and voted down many quality stories. I never understood why a site would allow anonymous anything when there are story tags and a disclaimer before the first lines of a story about the content.

Now, if I read a story I disliked I am not going to continue to read on and vote it poorly. That is just idiotic.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 1:59:48 PM

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I've actually started posting disclaimers at the beginning of my stories. But...they seem to attract the malcontents even more. I think they get pleasure out of getting angry, which is why they keep reading those types of stories.

My new story "8 Days" which I posted on that "other site" has caused a massive influx of negative comments. and that story doesn't even technically have any adultery in it. Here's one of my favorites.


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You can't have a "good" story about a cheating, disrespecting whore no matter how its written, thats the story, we like it or we don't. We don't, are you a good writer, I think you can be, do I like your stories? Fuck no, they don't turn me on, I don't like the people in them. Sorry, thats just the way it is, if cheating lying sluts turn you on, than I hope you get one and fall in love, you deserve it. Good luck.


And this story didn't even have cheating in it! It was about an engaged couple deciding to see other people before they get married. I even got a few personal threats of violence.

It's kind of watching a horror movie and saying "the movie sucks because people get killed in it!"
Guest
Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:40:56 PM

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Whoever wrote that is just an ass. At that point, anything he says goes in one ear and out the other.

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do I like your stories? Fuck no, they don't turn me on


Then shut the hell up.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:58:19 PM

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Different genres attract different readers and different critics. My incest stories seem to flush out a mix of men who lust for their daughters or a daughter figure or creepy guys who want to share their purportedly real life personal accounts of incest. Creepy? Heck yeah and that's one reason I stopped writing those stories. I've also written stories about hubby and I, which attract a tamer but nicer group of "relationship romantics." And then there was the one story I wrote about an extra-marital encounter which brought out pervy men who wanted me and angry men who hated me - both of whom I suspect are cut from the same cloth. My attitude? If you don't like it then don't read it; otherwise leave me alone.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:05:12 PM

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DamonX wrote:
I've actually started posting disclaimers at the beginning of my stories. But...they seem to attract the malcontents even more. I think they get pleasure out of getting angry, which is why they keep reading those types of stories.

My new story "8 Days" which I posted on that "other site" has caused a massive influx of negative comments. and that story doesn't even technically have any adultery in it. Here's one of my favorites.


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You can't have a "good" story about a cheating, disrespecting whore no matter how its written, thats the story, we like it or we don't. We don't, are you a good writer, I think you can be, do I like your stories? Fuck no, they don't turn me on, I don't like the people in them. Sorry, thats just the way it is, if cheating lying sluts turn you on, than I hope you get one and fall in love, you deserve it. Good luck.


This person obviously gets something out of your stories, otherwise he/she would've stopped reading after the first one. The fact that they've continued to read on even when they claim to not like your work says a lot about the type of person they are.

They've either been cheated on in the past or the idea of it turns them on.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:07:33 PM

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Personally me adultery not a subject matter that runs me on I actually find it a turn off big time but hey that's just me as others have said to each their own. It's really simple if you don't like the subject matter just don't read about it plain and simple. Why waist your time and the authors time to write a negative comment in the first place just plain stupid.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:20:14 PM

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bikebum1975 wrote:
It's really simple if you don't like the subject matter just don't read about it plain and simple. Why waist your time and the authors time to write a negative comment in the first place just plain stupid.


it's true. If they don't like it, they won't give time to read it, and if they haven't read it how could they comment? Well seems like you've got their interest that made them give time to read on your story and eventually got carried away with the story that made them get angry or anything. Your stories are good that it could stimulate anger on them or whatever there is.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:29:06 PM

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Yeah, its kind of funny. I have people that write and say "I hate every one of your stories!"

I'm like...and you still haven't stopped reading after the first 49 I wrote??

I've been slowly trying to infiltrate the minds of these people, but its been a difficult task. There seems to be a deep-seeded misogynism involved with most of them. They seem to think that the male character should always act with hatred and violence against any female character that shows any sexuality. I actually wrote a story about a woman who found out her husband had cheated on her, then tied him up and made him watch while she fucked another man. Again, all the negative comments were towards the woman even though she was the one getting revenge.

It seems its not so much "cheating" that angers them. Its cheating women. As well as swingers, or men that enjoy watching their wives/ girlfriends. They call them 'wimps' although that doesn't really make sense to me.
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Posted: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:00:54 AM

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DamonX wrote:
They seem to think that the male character should always act with hatred and violence against any female character that shows any sexuality. I actually wrote a story about a woman who found out her husband had cheated on her, then tied him up and made him watch while she fucked another man. Again, all the negative comments were towards the woman even though she was the one getting revenge.


well, I think it's human nature lol

some are good on making bad comments towards the work of others, all they could see is the bad side. they refuse to see what was really have to be seen.


DamonX wrote:
seems its not so much "cheating" that angers them. Its cheating women. As well as swingers, or men that enjoy watching their wives/ girlfriends. They call them 'wimps' although that doesn't really make sense to me.


about cheating women, some can't accept the fact that women can also cheat and that fact angers them. they call it double standard I think. I could always hear a lot say "It's okay for a guy to cheat on his wife or gf but a wife or a gf that would cheat on his husband or bf is unacceptable."

hmm... they should have to accept the fact that everybody is equal :) even in cheating lol

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Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 3:44:03 PM

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sassycheergirl wrote:
People have to bitch about something *sigh* i would just try to ignore what they say...


This is the way I feel too. I haven't gotten any negative feedback on this site, i'm new, but on other sites I have. Most of my stories involve cheating but people dont seem to mind that; Its mainly the fact that the main sexual act in my stories is anal. People tend to say that it is gross and that I am gay for liking anal with a woman. They are clearly in the anal category and its tagged anal but they go ahead and read it anyway then bitch about how gross and gay anal is.



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Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:12:36 PM

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Magical_felix wrote:
sassycheergirl wrote:
People have to bitch about something *sigh* i would just try to ignore what they say...


This is the way I feel too. I haven't gotten any negative feedback on this site, i'm new, but on other sites I have. Most of my stories involve cheating but people dont seem to mind that; Its mainly the fact that the main sexual act in my stories is anal. People tend to say that it is gross and that I am gay for liking anal with a woman. They are clearly in the anal category and its tagged anal but they go ahead and read it anyway then bitch about how gross and gay anal is.


Really? Wow. That surprises me because pretty much all my stories have anal. I don't think I've ever had someone complain about that. What sites are you posting on?

I have had people call me "gay" if the story had any swinging or wife sharing in it.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:19:13 PM

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DamonX wrote:
Magical_felix wrote:
sassycheergirl wrote:
People have to bitch about something *sigh* i would just try to ignore what they say...


This is the way I feel too. I haven't gotten any negative feedback on this site, i'm new, but on other sites I have. Most of my stories involve cheating but people dont seem to mind that; Its mainly the fact that the main sexual act in my stories is anal. People tend to say that it is gross and that I am gay for liking anal with a woman. They are clearly in the anal category and its tagged anal but they go ahead and read it anyway then bitch about how gross and gay anal is.


Really? Wow. That surprises me because pretty much all my stories have anal. I don't think I've ever had someone complain about that. What sites are you posting on?

I have had people call me "gay" if the story had any swinging or wife sharing in it.


I posted on ###########. My stories on lit are full of mistakes and are even worse than they are now on that site. This site is more strict and I am glad they are. It forces me to improve my "writing" before posting. So my stories on Lush are like special editions of my ########### ones LOL. I also hope to write some new ones to post just here.



DamonX
Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:01:48 PM

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I posted on ##########. My stories on lit are full of mistakes and are even worse than they are now on that site. This site is more strict and I am glad they are. It forces me to improve my "writing" before posting. So my stories on Lush are like special editions of my ############ ones LOL. I also hope to write some new ones to post just here.


Yeah, I know what you mean. When I first joined this site, I cut and pasted my older stories from ######### and they all got rejected because of spelling.

########## is full of wierdos. You get thousands of views, but you also get a ton of readers who get pleasure out of sending anonymous insults. Do you post in the anal category? You can't win on that site though. Whatever you write, you're going to piss someone off.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:06:31 PM

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You can't have a "good" story about a cheating, disrespecting whore no matter how its written ...


Peyton Place. 1957 and over a year on the best seller list. It sold 60,000 copies the first week. Topics include infidelity, incest, rape and murder and has become the breeding ground for countless imitations in daytime soaps and prime time addictions. (Desperate housewives.)

This quoted comment is so self indulgently ignorant that it is laughable.
Magical_felix
Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:31:33 PM

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DamonX wrote:

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I posted on #########. My stories on lit are full of mistakes and are even worse than they are now on that site. This site is more strict and I am glad they are. It forces me to improve my "writing" before posting. So my stories on Lush are like special editions of my ######### ones LOL. I also hope to write some new ones to post just here.


Yeah, I know what you mean. When I first joined this site, I cut and pasted my older stories from ######### and they all got rejected because of spelling.

######### is full of wierdos. You get thousands of views, but you also get a ton of readers who get pleasure out of sending anonymous insults. Do you post in the anal category? You can't win on that site though. Whatever you write, you're going to piss someone off.



Yes, I did post in the anal category. I know what you mean about the lit members. I'd get emails encouraging me to write more chapters and then I'd get some telling me to "just fuck off already."



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Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:42:52 PM

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Magical_felix wrote:
Yes, I did post in the anal category. I know what you mean about the lit members. I'd get emails encouraging me to write more chapters and then I'd get some telling me to "just fuck off already."


Yep. Although, I've found that that the more popular the story is, the more negative feedback you'll get as well. So you can take it as a good sign if people on there send you negative feedback. If a story really sucks, nobody pays attention to it at all. Check out #########.com for a quality site with less malcontents if you want to get some real feedback on your stories.

ADMIN: unwise to promote a competing website.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:00:49 PM

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I'll check that one out. most of my stories on lit averaged about 30,000 views and a couple in the 60,000 range. Now that I think about it I'm surprised I didn't get more negative feedback

I think I got off topic a bit. back to adultery.



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Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:10:44 PM

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DamonX wrote:
Check out xxxx.com for a quality site with less malcontents if you want to get some real feedback on your stories.


Hey man...can ya send him, or...anyone else - an email with our competitors URL and praise for the other sites, in it?

Both of you fellows are kind of tramping mud and tossing cigarette butts in on the Lush carpeting with this recent conversation...of other erotic websites.

Thanks

Most intelligent people are introspective and doubt themselves while many fucktards are proudly over-confident. - a tip of the hat to Charles Bukowski
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Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:44:43 PM

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Sorry dude, I think I better keep my mouth shut for a while.
d'oh!




DamonX
Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:25:01 PM

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WellMadeMale wrote:
DamonX wrote:
Check out xxxx.com for a quality site with less malcontents if you want to get some real feedback on your stories.


Hey man...can ya send him, or...anyone else - an email with our competitors URL and praise for the other sites, in it?

Both of you fellows are kind of tramping mud and tossing cigarette butts in on the Lush carpeting with this recent conversation...of other erotic websites.

Thanks


I apologize. I actually never thought of the other sites as "competitors". I will definately refrain from actually saying the name of the lower quality sites if you wish.
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A warning to DamonX and Magical_Felix - you might want to read our forum posting guidelines before mentioning any more story sites: http://www.lushstories.com/forum/yaf_postst6_Forum-Posting-Guide.aspx

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Linking to or promoting competiting story sites anywhere on Lush is disallowed, and may result in your account being banned.


At least you were both knocking the former site in question, so that's one saving grace laughing6
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NobeUddy wrote:
This quoted comment is so self indulgently ignorant that it is laughable.


Well said.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:53:57 PM

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nicola wrote:
[quote=NobeUddy]This quoted comment is so self indulgently ignorant that it is laughable.[quote]


My comment ( concerning malcontents) was made in comparison to L******.com, not this site. I would ask about the negative impact of such a statement, but I've learned that asking questions is obviously not a good idea. Consider the subject dropped.
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DamonX wrote:
My comment ( concerning malcontents) was made in comparison to L******.com, not this site. I would ask about the negative impact of such a statement, but I've learned that asking questions is obviously not a good idea. Consider the subject dropped.


Thanks for making that clear Damon, I see where you are coming from now.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 12:29:44 AM

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NobeUddy wrote:
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You can't have a "good" story about a cheating, disrespecting whore no matter how its written ...


Peyton Place. 1957 and over a year on the best seller list. It sold 60,000 copies the first week. Topics include infidelity, incest, rape and murder and has become the breeding ground for countless imitations in daytime soaps and prime time addictions. (Desperate housewives.)

This quoted comment is so self indulgently ignorant that it is laughable.


So back to the actual topic...

I've made the argument that most stories require an antagonist of some sort, but most of the trolls don't seem to agree with that. They tend to object to any antagonistic character of any kind. I tend to like books or movies where the main character is "evil" or "bad" because I find it more interesting. Patrick Bates, Hannibal Lector, or even "Alfie" are good examples of characters that possess traits that are perceived as "undesirable". Makes for a good read I think.
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DamonX wrote:
NobeUddy wrote:
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You can't have a "good" story about a cheating, disrespecting whore no matter how its written ...


Peyton Place. 1957 and over a year on the best seller list. It sold 60,000 copies the first week. Topics include infidelity, incest, rape and murder and has become the breeding ground for countless imitations in daytime soaps and prime time addictions. (Desperate housewives.)

This quoted comment is so self indulgently ignorant that it is laughable.


So back to the actual topic...

I've made the argument that most stories require an antagonist of some sort, but most of the trolls don't seem to agree with that. They tend to object to any antagonistic character of any kind. I tend to like books or movies where the main character is "evil" or "bad" because I find it more interesting. Patrick Bates, Hannibal Lector, or even "Alfie" are good examples of characters that possess traits that are perceived as "undesirable". Makes for a good read I think.


Ya, I think any good story needs some kind of tension right? And if the main character is the guy that creates the tension then all the better. The most you get out of romantic comedies is that the guy is a dipshit, the girl freaks out, everything gets screwed up halfway through the movie, and then the couple gets their shit together and make things right again at the end- how exciting! lol

I like movies with really evil people and things too, just not all the time. Sometimes I just want some excitement in my movie.
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Yeah, I'm also a big fan of the Byronic Hero in stories or movies as well. To have a dark, deeply flawed protagonist usually makes for a more exciting (and often more realistic) story. Usually even the anti-heros end up having something redeeming about their character as the story/series continues and comes to a close...

I even started feeling sincere empathy for Hannibal Lector after watching the prequel "Hannibal Rising". A good story will always have some underlying explanation for why the anti-hero turned bad.

OK, well except for American Psycho but the character of Patrick Bateman was more just a metaphor for fucked-up yuppie-greed.

Funny how in these stories/movies, the people the hero victimizes all end up being characterizations of people that somehow 'deserve it'.

That way its much easier to root for the bad guy... which I love to do.

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Posted: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:11:42 AM

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There have been tons of stories that have a seemingly bad character perform such deeds upon much worse people. And in the end, aren't we all flawed? Even Superman isn't perfect, and Casino Royale told a great story by planting deeper imperfections into a character that had long ago become stale. These are just three-dimensional facets that make the stories and characters more interesting.

I think some of the best stories told play to the imperfections and deeply internal inflections of the characters in question. Hence, in adultery stories, you find some of the best examples of this...married people who are out for some justifiable revenge on the spouse that cheated forever before them...spouses who inevitably cave to that sexy co-worker they've been denying for years...spouses who got married young and eventually fall prey to their own curiosity about the open life they could have had, and so on. I'm married, and I honestly think part of the fun of reading an adultery story is similar to the fun of reading any erotic story; you're allowed to be immersed in situations that have not and may never happen to you, without ever betraying anyone or anything about the life you presently lead. Hence, you may be 100% devoted to your wife and read erotica, which to me, is a form of porn without actually insulting your spouse by having to physically look at potentially better looking and certainly nude people.

Now, I'm also about to get divorced, which is a whole other issue. However, I don't think that makes my point any less valid.

And DamonX, short of hardcore snuff or things that you know within yourself are going to offend readers from the outset regardless of their personal tastes, don't worry one fucking bit about the bullshit a few whiny-assed haters have to say. If they don't like your work, they don't need to read it. If I don't like a movie, I get up and leave the theater. If I don't like a book, I shut the cover and return it for a better one. If I don't like someone's story, I move on. You have all the ability in the world to report and/or delete the bullshit and baseless comments of people who despised your work from the outset for whatever reason, but chose to keep reading anyway.

I may be biased, because I actually enjoy your work, but I don't think my point is any less valid there either.
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dancenude I saw a lot of comments on cheating wife stories on that other site. I agree with most of what other people have said on this tread on the topic. The ironic thing is when you take a look at stories that involve a wife cheating on her husband and it is not listed in a cheating wife category per se on some of these other sites they are ususally scored high and considered hot.

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