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Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:33:13 PM

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Well, since I'm not into the bar/lounge scene in my city, perhaps you two are right. The social circles I've been in are in larger cities around the world not just the US. Theaters, museums, concerts as well as other social functions that aren't just for the "hook up". Most of those people don't have to work harder at finding a friend to date or be married to. Even the smaller towns that I have become accustomed to don't seem to take the animalistic approach to dating anyone. They mostly seem to take people at a deeper level than what's on the surface I guess.
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Just wanted to clarify that when I said 'the social scene', I didn't mean the bar scene or people that are looking for 'the hook up'... I meant the entire social microcosm of the city. I enjoy museums, concerts and I have actually performed in some theatres myself, both in North America and in Europe. I love to analyze human behavior, and so I find it interesting to watch who ends up dating/marrying who.

Going back to the human nature thing... I do think the whole focus on physical beauty has a lot to do with the desire to find a mate to create desirable offspring, with desirable characteristics (not just physical). After all, to cite an extreme example, if a woman were to resort to getting donor sperm to father a child, I'll bet that she is probably not going to pick a donor who is 5'5".

I've also noticed that it appears that the closer one gets to a major city, the more extreme the standards become... I'm not a sociologist by any means, but its just what I've noticed.

I have seen many shorter men, with taller women, but in my own experience its usually been wealthy shorter men with model-esque trophy wives (who they are also choosing for their genetic contributions!).

It's not all about looks, or animal behavior... And yes, it should be about soulful connections... and many times it is. But if one goes off instant physical attraction, or if you were writing a list of the ideal qualities you'd want your mate to have, I'll bet that "tall" is often on a woman's list, and "beautiful" is often on a man's list...

Just my opinion of course...



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I haven't been in many really big world cities, but I bet most of the really short guys there who have really tall sexy girls on their arms are RICH! lol.

Other that that, I think it just boils down to- tall catches the eye quicker than short, just like handsome gets noticed more than fugly, just like men look for a nice ass and nice titties before they notice their 'personality' lol.

Nobody says we always decide who to be with based on that, only that human nature sees to it that it is generally that way with who we most desire.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:41:03 PM

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I'm 5' 10" sans heels, and I love to wear them! However, Hubby's just a tad under 6'1" so on some nights, I'm taller, but he doesn't really let it get to him. I did date one guy in college who had an issue as he was only 5'9". It's never mattered to me either way, but I do love feeling all safe and comfy in hubby's arms.

"A black cat crossing your path signifies that the animal is going somewhere." - Groucho Marx
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Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6:51:30 PM

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chefkathleen wrote:
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It just seems that if a guy is short, he is automatically viewed as less attractive, in the same way that an overweight man would be. If a guy is tall and ugly, then he's obviously less attractive. But a short guy will still be viewed as unattractive even if his other features are considered "good looking".


That is so not true. You must have a low opinion of women as you assume the worse in what you perceive as "all"women. Or you're just hanging around with the wrong ones. Short men are not viewed as "unattractive" just because you're short. As long as a man doesn't have the "Napoleon Syndrome" most woman that are secure in themselves don't care about height. It boils down to chemistry anyway. Not if one partner looks down on another one.


Do you live in the real world? Of course two people can have chemistry no matter what they look like. But we are talking about physical attraction here. A short guy may make up for his height by having a great personality or being rich or various other things. But 99.9% of women would be more attracted to the same guy if he was taller. And no, that doesn't make her a bad person. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Attraction is not a choice. Pretending that physical attraction doesn't matter is a naive concept and doesn't help anyone. It has nothing to do with a woman being secure or insecure. Attraction is a biological mechanism with a specific purpose. If height really doesn't matter to you, then Ok. But don't assume that every other female on earth feels the same way. There is a small percentage of men that are attracted to fat women, but to assume that a woman's weight doesn't affect their attractiveness to men...is ridiculous. Its the same for women concerning height.

I don't see why you would assume that I have a low opinion of women. No woman should ever be ashamed for being attracted or not attracted to someone. The fact that a woman is not attracted to short guys in no way makes her a bad person. If you think it does..then you have the low opinion of them. Pretending that looks don't matter is not a noble quality. It's naive. And its usually used by unattractive people to place more emphasis on the the qualities that they possess, and to mimimize the importance of the qualities that they lack.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:11:03 PM

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I'm conducting a sociological experiment on adultfriendfinder.com. I'm using the same profile but with different heights. (5'3, 5'9, 6'2). I'm going to see which one gets more responses from girls.

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6'2 landslide baby.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:32:16 PM

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DamonX wrote:
chefkathleen wrote:
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It just seems that if a guy is short, he is automatically viewed as less attractive, in the same way that an overweight man would be. If a guy is tall and ugly, then he's obviously less attractive. But a short guy will still be viewed as unattractive even if his other features are considered "good looking".


That is so not true. You must have a low opinion of women as you assume the worse in what you perceive as "all"women. Or you're just hanging around with the wrong ones. Short men are not viewed as "unattractive" just because you're short. As long as a man doesn't have the "Napoleon Syndrome" most woman that are secure in themselves don't care about height. It boils down to chemistry anyway. Not if one partner looks down on another one.


Do you live in the real world? Of course two people can have chemistry no matter what they look like. But we are talking about physical attraction here. A short guy may make up for his height by having a great personality or being rich or various other things. But 99.9% of women would be more attracted to the same guy if he was taller. And no, that doesn't make her a bad person. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Attraction is not a choice. Pretending that physical attraction doesn't matter is a naive concept and doesn't help anyone. It has nothing to do with a woman being secure or insecure. Attraction is a biological mechanism with a specific purpose. If height really doesn't matter to you, then Ok. But don't assume that every other female on earth feels the same way. There is a small percentage of men that are attracted to fat women, but to assume that a woman's weight doesn't affect their attractiveness to men...is ridiculous. Its the same for women concerning height.

I don't see why you would assume that I have a low opinion of women. No woman should ever be ashamed for being attracted or not attracted to someone. The fact that a woman is not attracted to short guys in no way makes her a bad person. If you think it does..then you have the low opinion of them. Pretending that looks don't matter is not a noble quality. It's naive. And its usually used by unattractive people to place more emphasis on the the qualities that they possess, and to mimimize the importance of the qualities that they lack.


Well Damon it looks like we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
I also think you confuse the difference with physical attraction and sexual attraction. It matters what cultural background you live in or come from as well. Again, you lump all women into one box that you have for them. Good luck with your "study".
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Posted: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:54:05 PM

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Well Damon it looks like we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
I also think you confuse the difference with physical attraction and sexual attraction. It matters what cultural background you live in or come from as well. Again, you lump all women into one box that you have for them. Good luck with your "study".


Out of interest, what is the amazingly deep and non-superficial culture that you have been so lucky as to immerse yourself in? Just let us know and all the short and ugly people will flock there to have their dreams fulfilled.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:59:42 PM

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DamonX wrote:

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Well Damon it looks like we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
I also think you confuse the difference with physical attraction and sexual attraction. It matters what cultural background you live in or come from as well. Again, you lump all women into one box that you have for them. Good luck with your "study".


Out of interest, what is the amazingly deep and non-superficial culture that you have been so lucky as to immerse yourself in? Just let us know and all the short and ugly people will flock there to have their dreams fulfilled.


I have a feeling, DamonX, that you are the "friend" you mention, as you seem to take offense to nearly everyone in here as if you had a chip on your shoulder, SMS, Napolean Syndorme ... whatever you want to call it. You have a serious attitude problem tied up with this height issue and you're getting defensive and sounding like someone blabbering because he is too angry to converse without little quips like 'Do you live in the real world?' and calling people 'naive'.

Seriously, you should calm down and stop acting like you have something to prove. You have your opinion (and it IS opinion and NOT fact), and you're allowed to state it just as everyone else does. But do take some tact and speak to people as you would have them speak to you.

A lot of the women on here have already stated that it doesn't really matter to them, and to a few it does ... Move on, you have your answer, stop being defensive and attacking people and hear them out. This thread was a question to the Gals about "How Important is a Man's Height?". You should let them speak and do more listening and less arguing, you didn't ask them to bring their lawyer with them to argue their opinions.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 8:44:17 PM

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freefallin1309 wrote:
DamonX wrote:

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Well Damon it looks like we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
I also think you confuse the difference with physical attraction and sexual attraction. It matters what cultural background you live in or come from as well. Again, you lump all women into one box that you have for them. Good luck with your "study".


Out of interest, what is the amazingly deep and non-superficial culture that you have been so lucky as to immerse yourself in? Just let us know and all the short and ugly people will flock there to have their dreams fulfilled.


I have a feeling, DamonX, that you are the "friend" you mention, as you seem to take offense to nearly everyone in here as if you had a chip on your shoulder, SMS, Napolean Syndorme ... whatever you want to call it. You have a serious attitude problem tied up with this height issue and you're getting defensive and sounding like someone blabbering because he is too angry to converse without little quips like 'Do you live in the real world?' and calling people 'naive'.

Seriously, you should calm down and stop acting like you have something to prove. You have your opinion (and it IS opinion and NOT fact), and you're allowed to state it just as everyone else does. But do take some tact and speak to people as you would have them speak to you.

A lot of the women on here have already stated that it doesn't really matter to them, and to a few it does ... Move on, you have your answer, stop being defensive and attacking people and hear them out. This thread was a question to the Gals about "How Important is a Man's Height?". You should let them speak and do more listening and less arguing, you didn't ask them to bring their lawyer with them to argue their opinions.


I'm just evoking discussion in here. I find it enjoyable. If everyone aggreed on everything, it would be pretty boring. If you look back, any "angry quips" I've stated have been directly in response to others' comments to me. Maybe you're a bit offended at my previous responses to your posts, but I meant no offense. I like brutal honesty, and it seems many are afraid to say what they really mean. I'm just trying to "urge" them to do so.

If you want to adress my height, go ahead. I'm 5'9. Its not the best, but it doesn't seem to be a deal breaker with most women. I have had people use the term "SMS" to me and it is annoying. It just doesn't make sense to me, so I commented on it. Sometimes these threads get of topic. If you read my very first post, it states the questions that I asked. The title of the thread is just something to grab attention.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:42:20 PM

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I really enjoy these kinds of threads personally...

I enjoy a healthy debate and differences in opinion are what makes reading these interesting... (and worth reading again!).




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Posted: Thursday, April 1, 2010 3:36:43 AM

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I am 5 4 and I am dating a guy who is 6 1. I will have to admit the height difference is kinda a problem. I love him so I guess we will get past that.
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I'm 5'6" and just like Dancing Doll said, I love to to wear heels. Kinda awkward when a guy has to tip toe or I have to stoop to kiss of for us to dance properly. I have nothing against short men, I find them cute really.
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Posted: Thursday, April 1, 2010 4:32:55 PM

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DamonX wrote:

I'm just evoking discussion in here. I find it enjoyable. If everyone aggreed on everything, it would be pretty boring. If you look back, any "angry quips" I've stated have been directly in response to others' comments to me. Maybe you're a bit offended at my previous responses to your posts, but I meant no offense. I like brutal honesty, and it seems many are afraid to say what they really mean. I'm just trying to "urge" them to do so.

If you want to adress my height, go ahead. I'm 5'9. Its not the best, but it doesn't seem to be a deal breaker with most women. I have had people use the term "SMS" to me and it is annoying. It just doesn't make sense to me, so I commented on it. Sometimes these threads get of topic. If you read my very first post, it states the questions that I asked. The title of the thread is just something to grab attention.



I don't think its your height that is the deal breaker, I think it is your attitude, you obviously have a bad one.

I don't recall any threads you've commented on my posts, so its definitely is not that. I'll have to go look at other topics you've commented on to see why I should drag that into this thread for some odd reason. But I do get annoyed at people who ask questions and then want to argue (offensively) the opinion's of those who post them because they don't fit your view of the world. Keep up that logic and no one will reply to your questions at all.

As far as your angry quips, I don't see anything in the quoted posts that you quoted and quipped to, to warrant any angry response ... hell one of them was "Well Damon it looks like we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one." Sounds like someone was telling you that they don't want to argue with you anymore.
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Posted: Friday, April 2, 2010 1:59:35 PM

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I don't think its your height that is the deal breaker, I think it is your attitude, you obviously have a bad one.

I don't recall any threads you've commented on my posts, so its definitely is not that. I'll have to go look at other topics you've commented on to see why I should drag that into this thread for some odd reason. But I do get annoyed at people who ask questions and then want to argue (offensively) the opinion's of those who post them because they don't fit your view of the world. Keep up that logic and no one will reply to your questions at all.

As far as your angry quips, I don't see anything in the quoted posts that you quoted and quipped to, to warrant any angry response ... hell one of them was "Well Damon it looks like we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one." Sounds like someone was telling you that they don't want to argue with you anymore.


Well, its nice of you to provide me with relationship advice, but I actually do okay in that department. I don't recall ever stating that I had any problems with women, but if I do, I'll be sure to get your input.

I think you may be confusing argument with discussion. I realize that postings often get misunderstood, but anyone who actually reads them should be able to intelligently respond without getting angry. I sure don't get angry. I love these discussions. That's why I participate in them. If anyone gets offended then they should stick to the posts about what they had for breakfast or their favorite color.

These discussions usually pollarize people into two factions. The realists and the idealists. I'm a realist and I like to have realistic conversations. Instead of blindly saying "it shouldn't matter what a person looks like", I prefer to look at "what things can person do to make him/herself more attracive". It's not a different of opinion, but rather people with idealistic views that misinterpret what we've been saying.

When we say "a man wil be less attractive if he is 5 ft tall than if he was 6 ft tall," some people take this to mean that:

"All tall men are more attractive than all short men" or "Its impossible for a short man to be viewed as attractive" or "height is the only important quality that a man can have"

If anyone sees no difference between the two types of statements, then they should probably not be involved in intellgent discussions of any kind because it indicates either lack of reading comprehension or a lack of common sense. If somebody says something ridiculous like "height has absoultely nothing to do with attractiveness...that's not "opinion". Its naive.

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I think you may be confusing argument with discussion. I realize that postings often get misunderstood, but anyone who actually reads them should be able to intelligently respond without getting angry. I sure don't get angry. I love these discussions. That's why I participate in them. If anyone gets offended then they should stick to the posts about what they had for breakfast or their favorite color.


Then perhaps you should take your advice and stick to those breakfast and color threads, as you've responded angrily in a few posts, as has been quoted to you, apparently you do not read what you write. And you wouldn't know intelligence if it slapped you in the face, you are making me wonder if you are even old enough to be on this forum with this dribble you call 'intelligent discussion' by making public character attacks in old threads, dragging this 'discussion' that does not anger you into other threads. Circular logic. I should point out that there has been no offense to me, as you've tried to point out. I've never said I was offended, only annoyed, and mildly at that.

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These discussions usually pollarize people into two factions. The realists and the idealists. I'm a realist and I like to have realistic conversations. Instead of blindly saying "it shouldn't matter what a person looks like", I prefer to look at "what things can person do to make him/herself more attracive". It's not a different of opinion, but rather people with idealistic views that misinterpret what we've been saying.


This is probably the 4th time you've generalized people, a man of the intelligence you seem to think you have would see this as a problem dontknow


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When we say "a man wil be less attractive if he is 5 ft tall than if he was 6 ft tall," some people take this to mean that:


Who is this "we" you keep mentioning? Realists or Short Men... your generalizations are getting as thick as a spider's web.

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"All tall men are more attractive than all short men" or "Its impossible for a short man to be viewed as attractive" or "height is the only important quality that a man can have"

If anyone sees no difference between the two types of statements, then they should probably not be involved in intellgent discussions of any kind because it indicates either lack of reading comprehension or a lack of common sense. If somebody says something ridiculous like "height has absoultely nothing to do with attractiveness...that's not "opinion". Its naive.



Did someone say "height has absolutely nothing to do with attractiveness"? I seemed to have missed that part somewhere. I read that these ladies said that it's not a deal breaker to be short; but rather that they prefer taller men.

The inferences to intelligence, naivete, lack of reading comprehension, and common sense tells me that you are lashing out for some reason. You can't hide your vehemence when you mention those things over and over like you are the only intelligent person in the room. As I said before, you wouldn't know intelligence if it slapped you in the face, your logic has been circular and you don't even hear what you have yourself said. Perhaps too, you should spell check your posts since you don't seem to know how to spell either, my browser's spell checker makes your posts bleed with so many red underlined words.
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Wow. Ok. I am sorry if I offended you with my generalizations or my typos. I realize that some things get conveyed as "angry" since it is difficult to convey emotional tone in a written statement. But I can assure you that I have been completely fine with the discussion that has taken place.

I've obviously offended you by commenting on an old thead in which you made an ignorant statement. So I will apologize for that as well. I honestly would have made the comment I made to anyone who would have said what you did.

I think if you go back and read this thread from the beginning you will see where I am coming from. But I doubt you will since it appears that your emotion has clouded your judgement and you will most likely disagree with anything I say.

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Did someone say "height has absolutely nothing to do with attractiveness"? I seemed to have missed that part somewhere. I read that these ladies said that it's not a deal breaker to be short; but rather that they prefer taller men.


This statement indicates that you see things the same way I do. Perhaps my curt manner has offended you in some way and sent you on this tirade but it was unintentional and most likely due to the blunt manner in which I speak. (type). But if there is any specific comment that someone made, I will be happy to address it. Let's stay away from personal attacks though, since we know nothing of each other and any comments or insults would be meaningless and without foundation. I apologize for spelling mistakes since this site has a delay on my browser and some letters get missed when I type them. When you are ready to resume the actual discussion of this post, I will be happy to.
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You're confusing anger with something else, not sure what. I went on this 'tirade' in response to you acting an ass and told you that you were being one in more than one sentence; as you seem to need that. You don't leave things be and need some kind of 'discussion' instead. If you would've just said "I'm sorry for being offensive" and left it at that, none of this would've gone on. If you had been more respectful of people and have a little tact, you wouldn't have even seen me on this thread after one or two posts from earlier about celebrity heights, as I was only offering friendly insight from a different direction, regardless of how relevant you think it is ... others seemed to respond to it positively without the negative comments that you had.

The old thread was responded to in in that thread, my 'tirade' began much before that if look at the dates. You don't seem to be able to see dates on your browser either. The other thread had been attacked by you with a vicious and disrespectful manner that is insulting to say the least, and then you threw in some kind of infantile tantrum with the thumb-sucking smiley ... this is how things get conveyed as angry, it was obvious and not something left to be misunderstood in any way. You're anger at me was plain in your verbiage, I'm not making it up.

I have nothing to add to this thread other than tell you to stop being an ass and you wont be treated like one. People have already stated their opinions, however "naive" or "unintelligent" or how their "reading comprehension" is. With your adjectives and not-so-hidden insults, you have helped take this thread away from its original course.

If you want to continue the topic of discussion, your original post, perhaps you should stop pointing the fingers elsewhere and take a look at your own words. If you wish to return this discussion to its original course without baiting people with insults , you need to remove insulting terms such as those mentioned above. What you call blunt, moderators call Trolling and Baiting., please have tact and a common respect due everyone on this forum and stop inflaming discussions with biting words.
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So to sum this up:

Damon speaks in generalities too much, asks too many probing questions for some peoples taste, and pisses some people off. He thinks we sometimes don't truly believe what we say. Enough, we get it.

Freefallin made it his mission to try to argue him under the table and make clear that he thinks he is acting like an ass and that he is not without fault. Enough, we get it.beat_deadhorse

To both of you: we get it!! You said enough, take the argument out back if you still want to type at each other.violent1



So here is another question to get this shit back on topic:

Girls, can a man be TOO much taller than you? And if you ever had a man that was shorter than you, do other people look at you funny or make comments about it ever?


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well done LadyX..(grins) nice to bring it back to topic
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To my favourite Lady! Well done girlfriend!!

LOL

To answer the new Q's on this topic...

I don't think there is such a thing as 'too tall' for me... that tallest I've dated was 6'4", and I was happy to wear heels!

I haven't dated anyone shorter than me, but a friend of mine is currently with a shorter man (she is 5'11" and he is 5'8"). She traded in all her stilettos for flats... It does bother her, but she is trying to get over it. And yes, he is rich... LOL... He actually bought her the new collection of flat shoes, so I would assume it must bother him a bit...?!

We (as friends) never comment or say anything about it... To each his own!


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Here's kind of a funny story.

A friend of mine (and yes, I do mean a friend, and no I am not talking about myself) who does quite a bit of internet dating is 6'2. But he posts his height as 5'11 on the sites because he thinks that women will prefer it. I, personally thought it was the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

He also lies about his race though. dontknow
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DamonX wrote:
Here's kind of a funny story.

A friend of mine (and yes, I do mean a friend, and no I am not talking about myself) who does quite a bit of internet dating is 6'2. But he posts his height as 5'11 on the sites because he thinks that women will prefer it. I, personally thought it was the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

He also lies about his race though. dontknow


What race is he lol? Can imagine it would be humorous on a blind date him pitching up and not being a particular race that he has stated.
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Loislane wrote:
DamonX wrote:
Here's kind of a funny story.

A friend of mine (and yes, I do mean a friend, and no I am not talking about myself) who does quite a bit of internet dating is 6'2. But he posts his height as 5'11 on the sites because he thinks that women will prefer it. I, personally thought it was the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

He also lies about his race though. dontknow


What race is he lol? Can imagine it would be humorous on a blind date him pitching up and not being a particular race that he has stated.


He's indian (from India, not native american). He tells girls that he's latino. I don't know how anyone could be fooled. He's met with lots of girls though and I don't think any mentioned it to him. He ended up having sex with a couple so they obviously didn't care too much. dontknow
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I just had images of a lady going to a restaurant and meeting this dude and saying so your Bio says you're African American
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Fuck! OMG he was such a freak!

He wouldnt agree to meet unless the woman promised to bring her little boy with her though.
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LadyX wrote:
Fuck! OMG he was such a freak!

He wouldnt agree to meet unless the woman promised to bring her little boy with her though.


well he is dead lol but he is the only person I could think of (giggles)
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So, lol, on the Michael Jackson subject, what if he was tall, good looking (better than MJ thats for sure) but (-bought his way out-) suspected of having sex with kids? Still attractive?


Uhm, I'll take a different tall dude please.
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LadyX wrote:
So, lol, on the Michael Jackson subject, what if he was tall, good looking (better than MJ thats for sure) but (-bought his way out-) suspected of having sex with kids? Still attractive?


Uhm, I'll take a different tall dude please.


yeah me too
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