Forum posts made by jack_42

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 02 May 2017 08:58



Considering to this point the fool asserts that 1). You can't blame Hitler for starting WW2 (the blame falls squarely on Hitler, it's reprehensible to excuse that monster for anything he did). 2). That 2 US Presidents were removed from office (a complete fabrication.. only 1 ever didn't serve his full elected term for reasons other than death and he resigned). 3). That the Allies didn't win WW2 in Europe (they most certainly did). These are not even debatable. They are facts. There are facts and there are lies. The cockwomble pushes egregious lies. Alex Jones would be proud. I'm sure the Trumpster is too. Cockwomble is being too kind in my estimation.

Get your moderator status if you want to moderate the forums. Until then don't act holier than thou. It's not your job.

Quote some facts disputing the ones I gave rather than just saying it's a fact. Hitler may have started WWII but my point was he was supported and elected as is your current leader and the pre-election behaviour of both these men illustrated just exactly how they would behave once in office. Oh and please don't misinterpret this to mean I support either of their actions. The allies behaved exactly in the way I've illustrated and in real terms lost the war. My theme was the reality not what some flag waving naive people think. I was advised to read history books well these facts are all contained in those rather than in romantic movies like Saving Private Ryan. As for your cock thingy well I can live with whatever that means. By the way there were people who were saying the same thing as me in 1945.

Topic *TOP FIVE FAMOUS ALCOHOLICS!*
Posted 30 Apr 2017 13:41

1. Samuel Adams
2. Frances Elizabeth Caroline Willard.
3. Andrew Volstead.
4. John Pemberton
5. Elliot Ness

Topic What are you reading?
Posted 30 Apr 2017 11:44

Mein Kamph Adolf Hitler.

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 30 Apr 2017 11:10



Disagree all you like with Jack, but can you please stop the name calling? Thx.

The only people using name calling are the people disagreeing with me though I fail to see how using playground insults lends any credibility to the argument. My main theme was take responsibility for your own actions or at least accept the decision of the majority - that is the accepted majority according to the system used or change things. Using this idiot Trump as a scapegoat rather than a symptom of the current political climate is a form of shirking. As for my disagreement I have presented nothing but facts. Stalin's not keeping to any promises is a fact as is Roosevelt's and in real terms the allies did not carry out their intentions. It's a fact not an opinion that Europe was betrayed by the allies. Well they were at the very beginning when the British and the French gave away the Sudetenland. People can list all their family circumstances all they like it will not alter this. I could list my families contributions which were quite large but it will not alter the reality of the end of the war and I'm not the only one to feel this. Most of the older inhabitants of Eastern Europe feel the same as do. This is not a contest or game but what actually happened and the awareness of all parties that is the 3 main allied protagonists who all knew. Stalin broke his promise immediately after when he set up a puppet government in Romania before he then did not remove his troops from Poland as agreed but nobody stood up to him. His intended target to set up a new Soviet state was begun he achieved all his targets so in real terms he won the war and the allies did not take him to task unlike when Hitler invaded Poland they did. So what else do you call it a victory? Remembering these events were taking place after Yalta and before the end of the war.

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 29 Apr 2017 16:24



True, but part of the reason is that the West very quickly saw the East as nasty 'commies', even though many in the East helped to liberate the West for which they were now punished by the Soviets (for fighting with the enemy). As a Dutch person I think it's disgraceful how for instance Poland was betrayed by us. Polish soldiers helped liberate large parts of Europe only to never be able to return to their own country after the war. They were seen there as betrayers for fighting with the West and in the West they were often seen as from the Warsaw Pact after the war. It took about 5 decades before their war efforts were recognized. An absolute disgrace.

Strictly speaking Jack may not be right, but I completely understand what he means. The Europe that had won was far smaller than the Europe before WWII. It's only after the SU collapsed that Europe seems to have regained it's original size again. Not geological of course, but what it is that people refer to when they mention Europe.

To Stanislav Mikulovice Leader of Poland during WWII "Don't worry Stalin does not intend to take freedom from you I shall see to it that your country will not come out of this war injured. " Franklin D. Roosevelt.

The strategy of the war was dictated by Stalin even to the D day landings - Roosevelt appeased him all the time yes in real terms not bits of paper but the reality it's so obvious Russia won.

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 29 Apr 2017 15:17



Nobody was "gotten rid of" either. The only president that did not finish out his term (other than by death) was Nixon, and he left voluntarily (more or less). If you didn't mean by impeachment, just what other means were you referring to?

Splitting hairs

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 29 Apr 2017 15:10

I agree with all of this. What I disagreed with, was Jack's statement that America lost the second world war in Europe and that Russia was the only winner there.

Could this be ironic unconscious arrogance I said Allies not America. :) And by the way this was the Soviet plan from the day they made the agreement with Hitler try studying a few of their diaries. Also the sacrifice of Easter Europe was made by Churchill and Roosevelt long before Yalta.

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 29 Apr 2017 15:06



If you are referring to impeachment, check the record jsck. Only 2 presidents were ever impeached (which by the way is only equivalent to being indicted), Thomas Jefferson and Bill Clinton. And neither was found guilty or removed from office. Richard Nixon was never impeached or found guilty as he resigned before the House brought his impeachment up for a vote. I do however agree with you that trump seems to have done more than enough to be brought up on charges and perhaps that will yet happen when they have the actual irrefutable evidence to make sure he doesn't some how slip through the process. I think everyday brings us closer.

Did I say impeached I said got rid of.

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 29 Apr 2017 12:08



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You think either of these 2 were suitable? Having said that during my lifetime you managed to get rid of 2 elected presidents for fairly mild infringements of the system -
one just for having a blow job. So get rid of this loon before he really does something embarrassing it must be possible viz my examples. Big wheel keep on turning.

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 29 Apr 2017 07:11

Poland?

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 29 Apr 2017 06:18

Ask that same question in the other half of Germany, in the Netherlands, Belgium, France or any other country that didn't fall under the Soviet Unions influence, and you'll get a completely different answer.

Looking back, it's always easy to see the mistakes that were made. Yalta rendered some decisions that helped Stalin's aspirations after the war. Some of that might have been foreseen, but certainly not all of it. And no matter how you look at it, compromises had to be made to seal the alliance between Russia and the rest of the allies. They needed each other to stop the Axis Powers from taking over the world.

Stalin effectively occupied a number of countries, broke the pledge about free elections he made in Yalta and abused his influence on the countries he occupied. But that did not decide the outcome of WWII. That war was over after the allied forces defeated Germany, Italy and Japan.

That nobody had the stomach to stand up against Stalin is not so odd. Europe and its allies, including America had just paid a high price to end a war and weren't about to start a new one, one that might even escalate into a nuclear conflict. And although the influence of the Soviet Union on the political processes was pretty clear, the western world still considered it the internal affairs of the countries involved and interfering with them was not done.





Of course it would be a different story they still had their freedom - rather obvious. This is not a case of being wise after the event only a few weeks after the Yalta conference and during the same there was dissatisfaction about the arrogant carving up of Europe thus allowed. I never said it was odd that nobody had the stomach to stand up to Stalin but you concede my point by acknowledging that. Russia's nuclear capability at the time was very minimal - practically non existent and this was prior to Hiroshima etc. As for their needing each other to defeat the axis powers they had already been defeated. But I am not really debating the events but what it meant in real terms. Russia won the war. To be fair they had suffered the most from the war but that does not excuse their being allowed to take over a huge part of Europe just because their troops were there - without it being looked upon as their victory, unspoken or not, but a victory nevertheless.

And all this may I once more remind all is a digression from the misinterpretation of my statement about Donald Trump. The response being emotion driven without any reference to what my statement actually said and it's all becoming a bit tiresome.

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 29 Apr 2017 02:44

Of course Europe wasn't as free as before the war. The allied forces controlled Europe and occupied Germany and its allies, as was agreed at the Yalta conference. Formally though, all the European countries regained sovereignty over their own territory after a while, the countries in the USSR's sphere of influence too. The latter became allies of the Soviet Union, just like the rest of Europe became allies of the USA. But the war was over by then, lost by the Axis and won by the Allied Forces. And by 1990 the influence of Russia over "its" part of Europe was rapidly collapsing, the Soviet Union was disintegrating and Comecon and the Warsaw pact effectively ceased to exist. Hardly the fate of a winner.

Ask any person from Hungary, half of Germany etc who in real terms won WWII ? The allies chickened out and allowed the cold war to be created. For most of my life we had to suffer the expense, con and privation of the cold war. People who had fought for ''freedom'' who returned to their countries were imprisoned for ''fighting on the wrong side.'' The reason for it starting was Germany's invasion of Poland at the end Poland was still invaded - so much for freedom. OK everyone had no stomach to continue or stand up to Stalin but that is the reality.

''Initial reaction to the Yalta agreements was celebratory. Roosevelt and many other Americans viewed it as proof that the spirit of U.S.-Soviet wartime cooperation would carry over into the postwar period. This sentiment, however, was short lived. With the death of Franklin D. Roosevelt on April 12, 1945, Harry S. Truman became the thirty-third president of the United States. By the end of April, the new administration clashed with the Soviets over their influence in Eastern Europe, and over the United Nations. Alarmed at the perceived lack of cooperation on the part of the Soviets, many Americans began to criticize Roosevelt’s handling of the Yalta negotiations. To this day, many of Roosevelt’s most vehement detractors accuse him of “handing over” Eastern Europe and Northeast Asia to the Soviet Union at Yalta despite the fact that the Soviets did make many substantial concessions.''

Topic When was the last time you had sex? [BE HONEST]
Posted 28 Apr 2017 18:22

Do solo gigs count? If so yesterday if not then the beginning of last September.

Topic Describe yourself in one word
Posted 28 Apr 2017 18:13

Egalitarian.

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 28 Apr 2017 16:14



Wow. One grandfather landed on Juno Beach, the other was already a German P.O.W. (and repeat escapee) well before Pearl Harbour. My grandmother was an RCAF nurse assigned to the British division tasked with the liberation of Bergen-Belsen.

All three were awarded medals of the highest order for their service.

So, what I'm saying is, would you please be so good as to read one fucking history book written by an actual historian and not some dumbass Pepe cocksucking motherfucker before posting absolute bollocks nonsense, please? Thank you.



What's the above got to do with the issue under debate? We all know there were sacrifices in the process of the war it doesn't alter the fact that the Russians won. And why all this peculiar mixture of sentimental flag waving and obscenities? Everything I've said is true you respond with raw emotion as though you hate the idea of accepting the reality. Prove to me by consulting history books that Europe was as free at the end of the war as it was before the war began and you have credibility otherwise you're just mouthing useless epithets.

By the way all of this is a digression from my original point (I did not bring up WWII) which was you can't make Donald Trump a scapegoat but should take responsibility about him rather than whine. And this does not mean I support him he was an obvious bad choice long before the election but it seemed the majority still thought he was a good choice so either live with it or do something about it rather than burble on about the latest proof of his unsuitability. (This is just a general statement and a return to the original issue and not directed specifically at HeraTeleia)

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 28 Apr 2017 15:51


The Warsaw pact was signed in 1955, ten years after the war, as a reaction to the fact that Germany became a member of NATO. It had nothing to do with the WWII alliance between Russia, America and Great Britain

Yes you're quite right I meant the non aggression pact as follows.

On August 23, 1939–shortly before World War II (1939-45) broke out in Europe–enemies Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union surprised the world by signing the German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact, in which the two countries agreed to take no military action against each other.

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 28 Apr 2017 13:44




I rest my case and will go with my previous statement - "You absolute, fucking cockwomble!!!"

Here..go play this..

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Thanks for proving my point again. As for your game suggestion I suggest you let your eyes rove over something other than fictional things if you're going to make statements without any factual information. As for your case you didn't make any only childish hyperbilies.

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 28 Apr 2017 13:08



You point out the Russia won WWII. Well, Russia WAS an ally at that time. Better bone up on your history.

You mean like they were when they had the Warsaw pact agreement?

I hate to say this but to use an Americanism arguing with you is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel.

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 28 Apr 2017 12:08




Just when I think you can't say anything more stupid, you outdo yourself just one more time. Alternative facts, Jack?

See my previous.

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 28 Apr 2017 12:07



You absolute, fucking cockwomble!!!

Was it Socrates who said the use of of abuse is the sign of a lost argument? I suggest you study the map of Europe before and after WWII. You will see more people were invaded than at the beginning. The Russians won WWII in Europe.

Topic Why are most American men circumcised?
Posted 28 Apr 2017 11:39

Of course people who get their kids so cut can't be creationists or if they do they think the deity is a lousy engineer.

Topic Can you really ever stop loving someone after a relationship is over?
Posted 28 Apr 2017 09:53

You still get the pain but with time less often.

Topic If you could really sell your soul
Posted 28 Apr 2017 08:37

I'm prepared to go down to the crossroads any time if it would really work.

Topic Why are most American men circumcised?
Posted 27 Apr 2017 07:56

I think every person born is an individual and nobody else except themselves including parents has any right to alter part of their body. As for male circumcision apart from real medical necessity I think it's primitive tribal crap.

Topic The New York Times Will No Longer Use the Term Female Genital Mutilation
Posted 25 Apr 2017 08:37



As background to what I'm about to write, I'm licensed by The State of Florida to carry a concealed firearm. In many states that have reciprocity agreements with Florida, their laws permit businesses to post signs telling potential patrons that concealed firearms are not allowed on their premises. I do not have a problem with businesses telling me they do not want my patronage. But whether I'm carrying at the time or not, before I turn around and walk out, I ask to speak to the manager, and explain why I'm leaving their business without spending the money I had intended spending.

See, if I just leave, its as if I had never been there and they would have no way of knowing about the income they lost by posting their sign. This is a technique that's become rather wide spread in the concealed carry community. Essentially a business can just bumble along not knowing that they're even being hit with a boycott. But by letting them know why you're withholding your business you bring it to their attention.

So for those of you dropping your NYT subscriptions, please make sure they know this issue is the reason why. It's especially important in this case because NYT in particular and the newspaper business in general are on shaky financial footing at this time. Make sure they know why they lost your business.

To give you an idea how the rest of the world thinks. On Prague shopping centres they have signs saying what is forbidden smoking etc and to my amusement on the list was guns. I was amused by this as I felt it was so over the top to even consider making such a point - the idea being that ridiculous that some lunatic would wander around so armed whilst pushing the shopping trolley around.

As for mutilating females or changing the terminology per se that is disgusting - but to add something to the other side of the coin or should I say pudenda; male genitalia is very painfully mutilated by certain native tribes in Australia. I suppose it's ok if they use a licensed Colt 45 to carry out the operation though.

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 23 Apr 2017 13:14



can you really defend someone by comparing him to Hitler? He may not have been solely responsible for the war, but he was definitely an evil mother fucker, as much to blame as anyone else, and not who I would want to to be compared to as a leader.

You still don't get it do you? I'm not so much making a comparison with Trump and Hitler except to say that they were both elected. In other words people have to take responsibility for allowing such people to be in control as they or their system did. And what makes you think anything I said was in defence of Trump?

As for the Pacific war that was the only part of WWII which the U.S.A. and the other allies won as they most definitely lost the one in Europe.

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 23 Apr 2017 08:15



Your statement is factual - Hitler cannot solely and logically be blamed for WW II. I do find the comment very offensive, however. Through my beliefs, WW II and the circumstances and people that were involved the war cannot and should not be compared to any issue such as Trump.

Sidenote, along with WW II came the Pacific War and people rarely mention it. In general, many people don't know of the Pacific War and for those people, I feel research should be done.


Same technique as Adolf and my main point wasn't that. Is that so difficult to figure?

Topic What was your source of sex education?
Posted 22 Apr 2017 15:17

The correct place - the gutter.

Topic What's the ONE thing you really hate to do?
Posted 22 Apr 2017 15:11

Go on line to complete government forms like tax etc I always procrastinate (I suspect others too). I have to renew my passport soon and am not looking forward to it though it is better than travelling back to the U.K. to get it.

Topic donald trump for president
Posted 21 Apr 2017 16:37



If you are gonna talk about Hitler, don't be dumb enough to do so in defense of Trump. Don't be dumb enough to use Hitler as a defense of anything, or minimize Hitler's horrific legacy in any respect. It's just a dumb dumb dumb thing to do, speaking of saying dumb things. Nuff said about that.


As you still refuse to interpret my point correctly and indulge again in your hick style emotional burbling about Hitler I'll tell you what your answer should have been. All of them were supported and got elected as did your current lunatic leader - elected by your supposedly fair system that elected a man who's ideas and policies and erratic behaviour had been fully demonstrated prior to election as was Hitler's prior to his election but you in your naivety think I for one moment support either Trump or Hitler. You don't get it - you're all responsible you can't just create scapegoats just for your convenience. You can't just blame this berk Trump you have to also blame the larger proportion of yourselves that voted him in.